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That's harsh.
Wow...that is @-) She wasn't the greatest of actresses but I still found her quite her quite attractive
I think CR is overrated but it's no where near terrible. Top 10 for me, I just think it's far from the best Bond film.
DAF and MR memorable and better than CR? Okay, I don't have a problem with people liking Moore and his type of films, but what is wrong with character development?! Why is it so hated by Moore fans?
In my opinion, DAF and MR are better than CR. It's not a crime is it to like these films ahead of CR?? I wrote an extensive review of DAF on this forum just a few days ago and am in the process of preparing writing one about MR. What I do not get/like is Craig fans who dismiss the 1970's and Moore era as something to be ashamed of? As I always say, without Moore and his films, the series would have died.
I don't hate character development, it's just Craig fans failure to admit that Moore was more than just a comic Bond that bothers me. He had terrifically tense moments and great dramatic actions that displayed his great acting. If Craig had been in OP or had acted out the scene like in Howe's office in AVTAK (where Moore was terrific had being brooding and acting amazingly), people would be praising Craig no end
[yoda] put down the crack pipe, you must[/yoda]
Brosnan wasnt a terrible Bond but there's always been something glaringly off about hos portrayal and I think it's, Brosnan lacking Bondian customary good manners and the chivalrous gentleman nature all the other Bond's have had, particularly when interacting with the villains.
Casino Royale is a terrific film, it really is and I do respect it and there is some terrific scenes in it (I love the dialogue on the train and Eva Green is amazing). But at this moment (and because Craig may be my Bond as I grow up), i don't see it as either a classic movie or a Bond movie even. In time? Maybe it will move up the table in my rankings.
=D> With the exception of TWINE, I applaud your taste in films :) and all are better than CR IMO
No, it's not a crime. I have no problem with people who like those types of films. But just how the hell is Blofeld in drag, Bond making a horrible joke after crawling out of a sewage pipe, Shady friggin' Tree, flap arm Jaws, the horrible Jaws love subplot or that damned gondola better than CR?!
I don't consider Moore's era as something to be ashamed of (I've mentioned on other threads that LALD was my first Bond film, I love TSWLM, and that Christopher Walken in AVTAK is one of my favorite villains). My problem is that Moore Whoores are as dismissive of Craig's films and fans as they claim Craig fans are of Moore's films and fans. I don't know that the series would have died (maybe gone away for a little while, but then returned, as the books did), but since we can't erase the Moore era, we'll never find out (just like, for all we know, NSNA existing may very well be the reason OP is a decent movie, but since NSNA can't just slip away into nonexistence, we'll never know).
Yes, Moore had his moments of drama and just plain badass action (the ending of TSWLM, anyone?), but he will, probably for decades to come, be known as the comedic Bond. That's not a distinction that Craig fans threw upon him. I called him that before the Craig Bond existed. Every Bond will go down as what they've gone down as. Connery will always be known as the first Bond, Lazenby as the one-off Bond, Moore as the comic Bond, Dalton as the (for some reason) the tall Bond (I read this distinction somewhere before, and it just stuck with me), Brosnan as the gadget Bond and Craig as the realistic Bond. These will last for a very long time.
Unless Skyfall is good enough to join that club.
Is that controversial?
No space for Moore's finest?
When Bond waves goodbye to Moneypenny at his wedding is sadder and more emotional than Tracy being killed for me
1. its a good song remove the vocals and its amazing
2. its a fun romp but compared to FRWL or TLD it feels a bit like Moonraker
3. when i was a kid i thought it was deathly dull but it has its moments NSNA was a more fun version
4. well nobody could do the end scene with tracys death better than Lazenby...maybe Dalton though
5. the relationship is fine but its not like Brosnan and Dench's M relationship which was better.
6. Completely and massively disagree QOS is the worst bond film peroid
7. i agree FYEO was Moore's finest hour
2) Goldfinger deserves all the hype it gets.
3) I am not a fan of Timothy Dalton.
4) Moonraker was the best Moore Bond.
5) QoS is better than CR. A lot better.
6) Mark Forster understood the character better than any director since Hunt.
Those are my most glaring I think.
I might actually agree with you here. Moneypenny was a character who had been in all the films so it sort of meant more.
I bolded my comments here.
How is Casino Royale a terrible Bond film?
It has all the classic trappings - done very well - and investigates Bond's character and motivations in a way no other film has done.
Most hardcore Moore fans just wanted another Moonraker. To them, character development is overrated.
I prefer Brosnan/Dench to Craig/Dench. Both Bonds worked well with her but I really don't like the whole mum thing they have going on in Craigs films.
No, he wouldn't have (especially considering, I have a feeling, Sir Miles was like that himself, in the younger days). But, really other than that scene in GE, they have the same relationship as Bond did with Sir Miles. A little bit more seeps through in TWINE, but not (I feel) until after M goes to Elektra's place... where ever the hell that is (Baku, I think... maybe... I don't remember, because I haven't seen TWINE in a while and have no desire to watch it at the moment).
I will say, I think the relationship works better in CR than QOS (though their scenes at the beginning of QOS are great, I think; "We promised them Le Chiffre, they got Le Chiffre." "They got his body." "Well, if they'd wanted his soul, they should have made a deal with a priest."). Their scene together in M's flat, in particular, is one of the best Bond/M scenes in the whole of the film series.
Character development is welcome...but not at the cost of the rejection of Bond elements. I do think in time, Craig's films (CR and QOS definately, with SF still to be judged) will be harshly viewed for there rejection of the classic Bond elements.
Like what?
I'm still trying to figure that out, too.
1. Pre-title sequence? Check.
2. Song? Check (one of the best in the series, for CR).
3. Introduction of villains, for some reason often taking place right after the song? Check.
4. Bond meeting up with M? Check (it happens twice, in both films, in fact).
5. Bond meeting the Bond girl? Check.
6. Bond driving an awesome car? Check.
7. Bond taunting the villain in some way, usually public? Check.
8. Bond physically fighting people and/or shooting people? Check, Check, Check, Check (In this order: Guy at desk, 9 Different Guys, Mr. Stairs, Carpool).
9. Bond having a battle of wits with the villain, sometimes with Bond being captured? Check.
10. A final shootout, leading to a physical confrontation with a villain? Check.
11. James Bond Will Return? Check.
Besides Q and Moneypenny, every single element from the prior Bond films returns in CR and QOS. You have modern gadgets with Bond using a variety of cell phones, having that implant, all that tech for some reason lining the MI6 walls, and that Blu-Ray player that people are using for security camera recordings in CR. So, @Signed_By_RogerMoore, what elements are you talking about?
Better than all of them. IMHO.
Hell yes, brother. \m/
The contest is over for today, but keeping it short, be aware that for Quantum Of Solace, you have Live and Let Die, Golden Gun, The Spy Who Loved Me, Moonraker and For Your Eyes Only as better James Bond movies, all with Roger Moore, and I'm being quite serious. Only Octopussy and A View To a Kill are anywhere as bad as Solace, and even then Octopussy may just be above it, leaving only Moore's swansong, alone in the murky depths of Bond sewer water along with Solace (and Diamonds are Forever)
A fair number of Moore's releases, were fun, vibrant, they had adventure, even if most often than not, they were damn childish nonsense and adolescent humor - but they kept the interest and got you involved - and you could keep track of events on screen without the need for a bucket to vomit in to such was the breakneck speed of some of Craig's most recent entry. Yes, it was a serious Bond, with some decent actions bits here and there, but still a very lacklustre effort, and the fact of the matter is, Roger Moore's tenure, for the most part, offered better adventure and thrills than the last release could manage
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