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That is interesting. Where did you find this information?
I like Mankiewicz a lot, and think he not only did good on DAF and LALD but I especially love his work on SUPERMAN (1978). I do wish he had done more than just the treatments he did for TSWLM and MR, especially if it was to punch up the dialogue.
From this article in French which chronicles quite exhaustively the first versions of the script:
https://www.commander007.net/2016/script-lhomme-pistolet-dor-premiere-tentative-de-maibaum-ecrire-moore/
I think that Matthew Field and Ajay Chowdhury's Some Kind of Hero details some elements from Mankiewicz's draft, which wouldn't be surprising.
Still, I am glad Cubby broke the Hamilton formula and went for more spectacle with SPY.
You are the king of controversy :)
That is my sentiment too.
Me three, in terms of its director. In some of the Bond books they say that Peter Hunt saved the film, in the editing.
I do wish they had retained the original ending.
I will now fight you to the death.
For the longest time, DN and FRWL were down there on my list when I was younger. I think it was when I got the VHS and watched it uncut it really began going up and is one of my tops now. But I can also appreciate why some don't find it as appealing.
I don't think there's any way they'd have considered using the Fleming ending at that point of the series. But it's funny they used the basis of the fallout of that from the novel directly into the adaptation of DN.
The only thing wrong with FRWL is it’s slow pacing. Once again, Peter Hunt didn’t have a lot of time to edit more properly. If you think about it, Peter Hunt’s inputs into James Bond as a film series are as important as Cubby’s, Harry’s, Richard’s or Terence’s.
+1. I can't picture a faithful screen adaptation of OHMSS(or at least one that was faithful to its ending) being made anytime during the years 1965-1967 as originally intended. It was the time period of The Man From UNCLE, Derek Flint, Matt Helm and dozen of Eurospy imitators so I don't think UA would've allowed EON to take that risk then. OHMSS benefited greatly from being made after the initial cinematic superspy craze that GF triggered was over.
+1. The inspirations for Goodnight:
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There's quite a few I like more. I have never felt that is the earth shattering classic, it's meant to be. Good, for sure but not great.
I like all the films you listed more. Add TSWLM, FYEO and maybe even (don't lynch me) GE and TLD..
Speaking of Bond movies being of their time. She’s right. Sheriff J.W. Pepper would not be allowed today. I wonder how if the LALD novel would be received, had they been more faithful to the source like OHMSS.
Given the crazy times we are living in right now,im surprised there hasnt been a call to ban LALD from streaming services for its '' problematic '' content! Im just glad that they cant take my blu ray boxset off me.
I personally feel TSWLM is way overrated. It’s a really damn good film, but better than the already too-highly-vaunted GF? Not in a million years (see, I’m the one they’ll hang).
I agree, a little before the time these racial issues started happening, I read both Ian Fleming and Dynamite Comics version of LALD. Boy, what a few months could have done to the project! In particular with the cultural issues of Dynamite Comics as of now! Dynamite might have had to cancel it or keep delaying it (as usual). Or just moved onto Moonraker. Either way, Mr. Big is the current villain of their storyline right now. Let’s see where this goes.
I would be willing to bet Sheriff J.W. Pepper might actually hold up better today. The whole point of his inclusion in LALD was to make a mockery of the US police force, which are known for sadistically brutalizing black people during the civil rights protests. The Mankiewicz family have always been very left leaning.
You'll both be spared my friends ;) . I prefer about 11 Bond films over CR and about 4 or 5 more over SF.
Il do it myself!! Ha, just kidding. TSWLM is my favourite Bond film, so naturally I will defend it to the hilt. I know there are a fair few on here that share your opinion, though.
I'm with you on SF. I think the first half is incredible, but as soon as they leave Silva's island, it loses it, for me.
CR on the other hand, was superb. Its in my top 6 or 7. Which means I love it.
I don't mind the slow pacing at all. I love a slow burning thriller with quiet moments. My controversial opinion : this is how I know a Bond movie or indeed any movie succeeds. How it deals with the quiet moments. Other controversial opinion : the game of golf in GF is the best sequence of the film and maybe the most suspenseful part.
Casino Royale
- Bond washing himself up after the Obanno stairwell fight
- Bond and Vesper in the shower scene
- Him coming to terms with her death after trying to revive her in Venice
Quantum of Solace
- Mathis and Bond chatting on the plane
- Bond and Camille in the sink hole
- Bond and Camille’s final chat in the car.
Skyfall
- Bond lazing around on the beach, a broken man.
- Bond’s evaluation, and subsequent failing
- Bond and M’s journey to Skyfall
Spectre
- Bond and Swann in the hotel room.
For all the wizz bang wallop pyrotechnics of the Craig era, its the character moments that resonate with me the most.