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  • Fire_and_Ice_ReturnsFire_and_Ice_Returns I am trying to get away from this mountan!
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    Jose illustrated the pros and cons from his experience watching the Portugese League, ultimately VAR is going to slow the game down and as technology improves every finite decision will be contested.

    The true test will be seeing VAR operating at the World Cup, big tournaments are historically littered with poor referee decisions, and England have been on the wrong side of those decisions a few times.
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    001 wrote: »
    RogueAgent wrote: »
    RogueAgent wrote: »
    RogueAgent wrote: »
    jobo wrote: »
    Newcastle got this game right. Jonjo Shelvey had an impressive match both going forward and tracking back. By far the best match I've seen him play since Newcastle got promoted to the PL again.
    RogueAgent wrote: »
    Didn't see that Utd result coming today! Fairplay to Newcastle. Great result for my Norwich boys yesterday away from home. Bring on the old farm derby next Sunday!!!!!OTBC!!!!!
    How did Norwich play?

    Overall we played well and held our own against Derby. If Oliveira had not took such a poor penalty? We could have come away with all 3 points? But still happy with a hard earned point.

    Oh, that must be frustrating! Three wins, one draw and one match lost in the last five, isn't too bad, though. The eight points away from play-off isn't too far, by the looks of it. Really close between the teams now!

    15 games to so yeah that's true. Think that it is a big ask as we would need too many teams to consistently slip up for us to make it? Which I can't see happening?

    Could be relying heavily on the form of the teams ahead, yes. At the same time, looking at the fixtures for the next month, you have Ipswich, Bolton and Nottingham Forest at home, and away games against Barnsley and Hull! The Wolverhampton game might be the toughest fixture – perhaps the only really tough one?

    I love your enthusiasm for a play off push but the Championship is such a lottery week to week, that you never know what to expect?

    Norwich would be great to see in the PL, hence the enthusiasm! The lottery aspect of the Championship is an advantage, as well. :-)


    Making the most out of VAR this weekend… What are they doing?!

    Not the best way to try to sell a product to the public, state of the art tech for you :))

    State of the art tech is not always 100% flawless.
    It's the first time i've seen this error from VAR.

    I was joking I am aware VAR has had relative success elsewhere, anything being trialed is bound to have teething problems.

    Yes, but if the technology works fine elsewhere (people following other leagues using VAR might know this), they should learn to use it properly before including it in games.
    Jose illustrated the pros and cons from his experience watching the Portugese League, ultimately VAR is going to slow the game down and as technology improves every finite decision will be contested.

    The true test will be seeing VAR operating at the World Cup, big tournaments are historically littered with poor referee decisions, and England have been on the wrong side of those decisions a few times.

    Really don't mind the game being slowed down if crucial decisions are helped by it. More often than not, you feel like being on the wrong side of decisions, as you mentioned. So be it if it adds a few minutes in total to a game.
  • Fire_and_Ice_ReturnsFire_and_Ice_Returns I am trying to get away from this mountan!
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    001 wrote: »
    RogueAgent wrote: »
    RogueAgent wrote: »
    RogueAgent wrote: »
    jobo wrote: »
    Newcastle got this game right. Jonjo Shelvey had an impressive match both going forward and tracking back. By far the best match I've seen him play since Newcastle got promoted to the PL again.
    RogueAgent wrote: »
    Didn't see that Utd result coming today! Fairplay to Newcastle. Great result for my Norwich boys yesterday away from home. Bring on the old farm derby next Sunday!!!!!OTBC!!!!!
    How did Norwich play?

    Overall we played well and held our own against Derby. If Oliveira had not took such a poor penalty? We could have come away with all 3 points? But still happy with a hard earned point.

    Oh, that must be frustrating! Three wins, one draw and one match lost in the last five, isn't too bad, though. The eight points away from play-off isn't too far, by the looks of it. Really close between the teams now!

    15 games to so yeah that's true. Think that it is a big ask as we would need too many teams to consistently slip up for us to make it? Which I can't see happening?

    Could be relying heavily on the form of the teams ahead, yes. At the same time, looking at the fixtures for the next month, you have Ipswich, Bolton and Nottingham Forest at home, and away games against Barnsley and Hull! The Wolverhampton game might be the toughest fixture – perhaps the only really tough one?

    I love your enthusiasm for a play off push but the Championship is such a lottery week to week, that you never know what to expect?

    Norwich would be great to see in the PL, hence the enthusiasm! The lottery aspect of the Championship is an advantage, as well. :-)


    Making the most out of VAR this weekend… What are they doing?!

    Not the best way to try to sell a product to the public, state of the art tech for you :))

    State of the art tech is not always 100% flawless.
    It's the first time i've seen this error from VAR.

    I was joking I am aware VAR has had relative success elsewhere, anything being trialed is bound to have teething problems.

    Yes, but if the technology works fine elsewhere (people following other leagues using VAR might know this), they should learn to use it properly before including it in games.
    Jose illustrated the pros and cons from his experience watching the Portugese League, ultimately VAR is going to slow the game down and as technology improves every finite decision will be contested.

    The true test will be seeing VAR operating at the World Cup, big tournaments are historically littered with poor referee decisions, and England have been on the wrong side of those decisions a few times.

    Really don't mind the game being slowed down if crucial decisions are helped by it. More often than not, you feel like being on the wrong side of decisions, as you mentioned. So be it if it adds a few minutes in total to a game.

    True that awful graphic you posted is beyond amature they should have not shown that image.
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    True that awful graphic you posted is beyond amature they should have not shown that image.

    Actually thought there was something wrong with the TV for a few seconds there!
    001 wrote: »
    Mourinho wasn't impressed with it.

    We need VAR to stop Tottenham players diving. :)

    YES!!
  • Fire_and_Ice_ReturnsFire_and_Ice_Returns I am trying to get away from this mountan!
    Posts: 25,109
    True that awful graphic you posted is beyond amature they should have not shown that image.

    Actually thought there was something wrong with the TV for a few seconds there!
    001 wrote: »
    Mourinho wasn't impressed with it.

    We need VAR to stop Tottenham players diving. :)

    YES!!

    The graphic reminded me of a BBC computer from the 80's, the VAR program must be written in BASIC ;))
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    001 wrote: »
    001 wrote: »
    RogueAgent wrote: »
    RogueAgent wrote: »
    RogueAgent wrote: »
    jobo wrote: »
    Newcastle got this game right. Jonjo Shelvey had an impressive match both going forward and tracking back. By far the best match I've seen him play since Newcastle got promoted to the PL again.
    RogueAgent wrote: »
    Didn't see that Utd result coming today! Fairplay to Newcastle. Great result for my Norwich boys yesterday away from home. Bring on the old farm derby next Sunday!!!!!OTBC!!!!!
    How did Norwich play?

    Overall we played well and held our own against Derby. If Oliveira had not took such a poor penalty? We could have come away with all 3 points? But still happy with a hard earned point.

    Oh, that must be frustrating! Three wins, one draw and one match lost in the last five, isn't too bad, though. The eight points away from play-off isn't too far, by the looks of it. Really close between the teams now!

    15 games to so yeah that's true. Think that it is a big ask as we would need too many teams to consistently slip up for us to make it? Which I can't see happening?

    Could be relying heavily on the form of the teams ahead, yes. At the same time, looking at the fixtures for the next month, you have Ipswich, Bolton and Nottingham Forest at home, and away games against Barnsley and Hull! The Wolverhampton game might be the toughest fixture – perhaps the only really tough one?

    I love your enthusiasm for a play off push but the Championship is such a lottery week to week, that you never know what to expect?

    Norwich would be great to see in the PL, hence the enthusiasm! The lottery aspect of the Championship is an advantage, as well. :-)


    Making the most out of VAR this weekend… What are they doing?!

    Not the best way to try to sell a product to the public, state of the art tech for you :))

    State of the art tech is not always 100% flawless.
    It's the first time i've seen this error from VAR.

    I was joking I am aware VAR has had relative success elsewhere, anything being trialed is bound to have teething problems.

    Mourinho wasn't impressed with it.

    We need VAR to stop Tottenham players diving. :)

    I don’t think Spurs got away with much of that against Juventus. Stronger refereeing.
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    True that awful graphic you posted is beyond amature they should have not shown that image.

    Actually thought there was something wrong with the TV for a few seconds there!
    001 wrote: »
    Mourinho wasn't impressed with it.

    We need VAR to stop Tottenham players diving. :)

    YES!!

    The graphic reminded me of a BBC computer from the 80's, the VAR program must be written in BASIC ;))

    Haha, yes! Looked odd compared to all the graphics you're used to seeing these days!
    vzok wrote: »
    001 wrote: »
    001 wrote: »
    RogueAgent wrote: »
    RogueAgent wrote: »
    RogueAgent wrote: »
    jobo wrote: »
    Newcastle got this game right. Jonjo Shelvey had an impressive match both going forward and tracking back. By far the best match I've seen him play since Newcastle got promoted to the PL again.
    RogueAgent wrote: »
    Didn't see that Utd result coming today! Fairplay to Newcastle. Great result for my Norwich boys yesterday away from home. Bring on the old farm derby next Sunday!!!!!OTBC!!!!!
    How did Norwich play?

    Overall we played well and held our own against Derby. If Oliveira had not took such a poor penalty? We could have come away with all 3 points? But still happy with a hard earned point.

    Oh, that must be frustrating! Three wins, one draw and one match lost in the last five, isn't too bad, though. The eight points away from play-off isn't too far, by the looks of it. Really close between the teams now!

    15 games to so yeah that's true. Think that it is a big ask as we would need too many teams to consistently slip up for us to make it? Which I can't see happening?

    Could be relying heavily on the form of the teams ahead, yes. At the same time, looking at the fixtures for the next month, you have Ipswich, Bolton and Nottingham Forest at home, and away games against Barnsley and Hull! The Wolverhampton game might be the toughest fixture – perhaps the only really tough one?

    I love your enthusiasm for a play off push but the Championship is such a lottery week to week, that you never know what to expect?

    Norwich would be great to see in the PL, hence the enthusiasm! The lottery aspect of the Championship is an advantage, as well. :-)


    Making the most out of VAR this weekend… What are they doing?!

    Not the best way to try to sell a product to the public, state of the art tech for you :))

    State of the art tech is not always 100% flawless.
    It's the first time i've seen this error from VAR.

    I was joking I am aware VAR has had relative success elsewhere, anything being trialed is bound to have teething problems.

    Mourinho wasn't impressed with it.

    We need VAR to stop Tottenham players diving. :)

    I don’t think Spurs got away with much of that against Juventus. Stronger refereeing.

    Didn't see the match, but I am not at all surprised if the refs were better. So many PL matches this season have had controversial refereeing…
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    What is it with this sudden blame on Tottenham for diving? Diving is not exactly new in the Premier League, and certainly not exclusive to Tottenham. Ronaldo was diving non stop for Man Utd back in the day. So did Ashley Young. Chelsea had Drogba, Diego Costa, etc...
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    Well, there was this:
    The Spurs boss had claimed after his side's draw with Liverpool that football is about attempting to "trick your opponent", with numerous Spurs players - including Dele Alli and Harry Kane - drawing criticism for perceived simulation at Anfield.
  • TheWizardOfIceTheWizardOfIce 'One of the Internet's more toxic individuals'
    edited February 2018 Posts: 9,117
    Well, there was this:
    The Spurs boss had claimed after his side's draw with Liverpool that football is about attempting to "trick your opponent", with numerous Spurs players - including Dele Alli and Harry Kane - drawing criticism for perceived simulation at Anfield.

    That and the fact some of Dele's efforts are such dismal attempts at acting they'd be laughed off stage at a school nativity play.
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    Thank the lord for Tim Klose! Talk about leaving it late in the old farm derby! Next up? Wolves away on Wednesday night! OTBC!!!!
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    Well, there was this:
    The Spurs boss had claimed after his side's draw with Liverpool that football is about attempting to "trick your opponent", with numerous Spurs players - including Dele Alli and Harry Kane - drawing criticism for perceived simulation at Anfield.

    Plus didn't Harold Kane say that if he "feels contact" then he is right to go down, after all this is football. Sounds rather more like diving than football.

  • TheWizardOfIceTheWizardOfIce 'One of the Internet's more toxic individuals'
    edited February 2018 Posts: 9,117
    vzok wrote: »
    Well, there was this:
    The Spurs boss had claimed after his side's draw with Liverpool that football is about attempting to "trick your opponent", with numerous Spurs players - including Dele Alli and Harry Kane - drawing criticism for perceived simulation at Anfield.

    Plus didn't Harold Kane say that if he "feels contact" then he is right to go down, after all this is football. Sounds rather more like diving than football.

    That's slightly different. If an idiot defender has a hack you or a keeper throws himself at your feet you have no obligation not to go down once they touch you.

    Diving is throwing yourself to the floor with no contact. If someone actually makes contact then it's up to you if you stay on your feet or go down depending on how best you think it will benefit your team. Lineker in the 1990 QF the perfect example of this of course.

    If you don't want to concede a penalty then don't make challenges in the box without getting the ball.
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    Well, there was this:
    The Spurs boss had claimed after his side's draw with Liverpool that football is about attempting to "trick your opponent", with numerous Spurs players - including Dele Alli and Harry Kane - drawing criticism for perceived simulation at Anfield.

    That and the fact some of Dele's efforts are such dismal attempts at acting they'd be laughed off stage at a school nativity play.

    He really likes to dive, doesn't he.
  • 001001
    Posts: 1,575
    Well, there was this:
    The Spurs boss had claimed after his side's draw with Liverpool that football is about attempting to "trick your opponent", with numerous Spurs players - including Dele Alli and Harry Kane - drawing criticism for perceived simulation at Anfield.

    That and the fact some of Dele's efforts are such dismal attempts at acting they'd be laughed off stage at a school nativity play.

    He really likes to dive, doesn't he.

    Kane loves diving as well.
    This was a dive.
    kane1.jpg

    Spurs seem to be the worst team easily for diving.
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    vzok wrote: »
    Well, there was this:
    The Spurs boss had claimed after his side's draw with Liverpool that football is about attempting to "trick your opponent", with numerous Spurs players - including Dele Alli and Harry Kane - drawing criticism for perceived simulation at Anfield.

    Plus didn't Harold Kane say that if he "feels contact" then he is right to go down, after all this is football. Sounds rather more like diving than football.

    That's slightly different. If an idiot defender has a hack you or a keeper throws himself at your feet you have no obligation not to go down once they touch you.

    Diving is throwing yourself to the floor with no contact. If someone actually makes contact then it's up to you if you stay on your feet or go down depending on how best you think it will benefit your team. Lineker in the 1990 QF the perfect example of this of course.

    If you don't want to concede a penalty then don't make challenges in the box without getting the ball.

    Kane's quote was in relation to the Karius incident, that 001 has pictured above. I saw a gif of it, and when you see it looping over and over you can see that there was no contact. He starts to flip has legs and fall as soon as he sees the goalkeepers hand is available.
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    Diving reputation has in earnest always been a matter of highly subjective nonsense! You have some players like Ronaldo who dive constantly all through out their careers, however rarely get criticized for it. On the other hand you have someone like Busquets who somehow get the reputation of being the world's "biggest cheat" based on one incident in 2010. For decades Italians have been blamed for being the masters of dark arts, although in truth they never were that much worse than other countries.

    The fact of the matter is that basically all top teams have at least a handfull of players that happily try to make the most out of any foul or attempted foul they receive. And that is not Even mentioning all the attempts at either interupting, riveling up or injuring other players with fouls or hits, time vasting, putting pressure on the referee etc... Blaming others; teams, nations, cultures for being so incredibly much worse than others, is usually an attempt at self contentment. The English especially are masters at this. I guess finally realizing you have no claims to be considered the best in the game you created, has brought on the need to at least point out you understand the values of the game much better!

    - 'In England we at least value fair play! We kick and beat each other to death like real men and are not patzies like those foreigners who drivel around with their fancy "technique" and "skill", while rolling around at every physical contact! We wouldn't try to trick the referee in England! Except all the times we do... repeatedly...'

    The real heroes are those who get consistently kicked, yet always try their best to stay up. These players should be championed, instead of vasting time on blaming others for 'dark arts' every team uses!
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    To be fair a lot of the criticism here is against English players. In the modern game there is far too much simulation across the board, but there are certain players who are doing it a lot more than others.

    I'd love to be able to send these cheats back in time to face Norman Hunter or Ron "Chopper" Harris for 90 minutes. They wouldn't be able to roll around after one of those tackles.
  • 001001
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    Lamela another spurs diver.
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    Are there some sort of stats or a compilation of bookings related to diving? Would be interesting to see.

    Also, are some players just prone to dive, or is it a thing some managers encourage?
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    001 wrote: »
    Lamela another spurs diver.
    TELEMMGLPICT000153302898_trans_NvBQzQNjv4Bq4GoSUj5tx--cOXjJHDSbw-yvIW1ftwrJfbuf-MzLyHo.jpeg?imwidth=1400

    That one was really annoying - running across someone who is about to kick the ball.
  • TheWizardOfIceTheWizardOfIce 'One of the Internet's more toxic individuals'
    edited February 2018 Posts: 9,117
    vzok wrote: »
    vzok wrote: »
    Well, there was this:
    The Spurs boss had claimed after his side's draw with Liverpool that football is about attempting to "trick your opponent", with numerous Spurs players - including Dele Alli and Harry Kane - drawing criticism for perceived simulation at Anfield.

    Plus didn't Harold Kane say that if he "feels contact" then he is right to go down, after all this is football. Sounds rather more like diving than football.

    That's slightly different. If an idiot defender has a hack you or a keeper throws himself at your feet you have no obligation not to go down once they touch you.

    Diving is throwing yourself to the floor with no contact. If someone actually makes contact then it's up to you if you stay on your feet or go down depending on how best you think it will benefit your team. Lineker in the 1990 QF the perfect example of this of course.

    If you don't want to concede a penalty then don't make challenges in the box without getting the ball.

    Kane's quote was in relation to the Karius incident, that 001 has pictured above. I saw a gif of it, and when you see it looping over and over you can see that there was no contact. He starts to flip has legs and fall as soon as he sees the goalkeepers hand is available.

    I'm not going to defend Harry flinging himself to the floor (I think Karius gets a nick on his trailing leg but that is no reason for his leading leg to collapse form under him) but that doesn't alter the fact that his statement is true and if you feel contact then you are entitled to go down and the defender will be sweating on what happens next.

    Wigan v City quite a decent ding dong and City down to 10 men evens it up a bit. The ref gets a yellow out at first and then changes it to red did the VAR guy overrule him?

    Nonetheless seeing Pep losing his shit quite amusing.
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    Drama! Watching Wigan Athletic-Manchester City right now, and City are down to ten men after Delph get's the red after a sliding tackle which catches Power across the ankles - I think. Only saw the one replay, which didn't show the right angle. This was just before half-time, and there's a full half to go!

    On top of that, the referee appears to have had a yellow card in his hand, but then takes out the red. Guardiola and Cook are seen furious on the sidelines, with heated exchanges going between them.
  • TheWizardOfIceTheWizardOfIce 'One of the Internet's more toxic individuals'
    Posts: 9,117
    Drama! Watching Wigan Athletic-Manchester City right now, and City are down to ten men after Delph get's the red after a sliding tackle which catches Power across the ankles - I think. Only saw the one replay, which didn't show the right angle. This was just before half-time, and there's a full half to go!

    On top of that, the referee appears to have had a yellow card in his hand, but then takes out the red. Guardiola and Cook are seen furious on the sidelines, with heated exchanges going between them.

    In England where we 'kick and beat each other to death like real men' it's a yellow but his studs were up a bit and I've seen them given. Don't really see why Pep is going mental. Perhaps it might be because he now might have to actually earn his money for the next 45?
  • edited February 2018 Posts: 17,756
    Wigan v City quite a decent ding dong and City down to 10 men evens it up a bit. The ref gets a yellow out at first and then changes it to red did the VAR guy overrule him?

    Nonetheless seeing Pep losing his shit quite amusing.

    Is there VAR in this game at all? The commentator on TV here said there wasn't.

    Shame they went to commercial just as the tunnel cam was on, as things went crazy there! Read somewhere that Ederson appeared to push Cook!
    Drama! Watching Wigan Athletic-Manchester City right now, and City are down to ten men after Delph get's the red after a sliding tackle which catches Power across the ankles - I think. Only saw the one replay, which didn't show the right angle. This was just before half-time, and there's a full half to go!

    On top of that, the referee appears to have had a yellow card in his hand, but then takes out the red. Guardiola and Cook are seen furious on the sidelines, with heated exchanges going between them.

    In England where we 'kick and beat each other to death like real men' it's a yellow but his studs were up a bit and I've seen them given. Don't really see why Pep is going mental. Perhaps it might be because he now might have to actually earn his money for the next 45?

    Perhaps! Makes this Monday game a lot more exciting, that's for sure!
  • TheWizardOfIceTheWizardOfIce 'One of the Internet's more toxic individuals'
    Posts: 9,117
    Wigan v City quite a decent ding dong and City down to 10 men evens it up a bit. The ref gets a yellow out at first and then changes it to red did the VAR guy overrule him?

    Nonetheless seeing Pep losing his shit quite amusing.

    Is there VAR in this game at all? The commentator on TV here said there wasn't.

    Shame they went to commercial just as the tunnel cam was on, as things went crazy there! Read somewhere that Ederson appeared to push Cook!
    Drama! Watching Wigan Athletic-Manchester City right now, and City are down to ten men after Delph get's the red after a sliding tackle which catches Power across the ankles - I think. Only saw the one replay, which didn't show the right angle. This was just before half-time, and there's a full half to go!

    On top of that, the referee appears to have had a yellow card in his hand, but then takes out the red. Guardiola and Cook are seen furious on the sidelines, with heated exchanges going between them.

    In England where we 'kick and beat each other to death like real men' it's a yellow but his studs were up a bit and I've seen them given. Don't really see why Pep is going mental. Perhaps it might be because he now might have to actually earn his money for the next 45?

    Perhaps! Makes this Monday game a lot more exciting, that's for sure!

    I thought all these FA Cup games have VAR? But there again no one has really mentioned it so you might be right.

    We got the tunnel footage here and it looked like Pep was basically shouting 'Do you want some? I'm handy' at the Wigan manager. Alas he was held back as I would've liked to see how the urbane, metrosexual tactician with a nice line in designer jumpers would've done in a ruck with a bloke who looks like he eats tripe for breakfast, lunch and dinner and whose idea of speaking a foreign language is to shout 'Oi Gunga Din' to a waiter in an Indian restaurant.
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    Wigan v City quite a decent ding dong and City down to 10 men evens it up a bit. The ref gets a yellow out at first and then changes it to red did the VAR guy overrule him?

    Nonetheless seeing Pep losing his shit quite amusing.

    Is there VAR in this game at all? The commentator on TV here said there wasn't.

    Shame they went to commercial just as the tunnel cam was on, as things went crazy there! Read somewhere that Ederson appeared to push Cook!
    Drama! Watching Wigan Athletic-Manchester City right now, and City are down to ten men after Delph get's the red after a sliding tackle which catches Power across the ankles - I think. Only saw the one replay, which didn't show the right angle. This was just before half-time, and there's a full half to go!

    On top of that, the referee appears to have had a yellow card in his hand, but then takes out the red. Guardiola and Cook are seen furious on the sidelines, with heated exchanges going between them.

    In England where we 'kick and beat each other to death like real men' it's a yellow but his studs were up a bit and I've seen them given. Don't really see why Pep is going mental. Perhaps it might be because he now might have to actually earn his money for the next 45?

    Perhaps! Makes this Monday game a lot more exciting, that's for sure!

    I thought all these FA Cup games have VAR? But there again no one has really mentioned it so you might be right.

    We got the tunnel footage here and it looked like Pep was basically shouting 'Do you want some? I'm handy' at the Wigan manager. Alas he was held back as I would've liked to see how the urbane, metrosexual tactician with a nice line in designer jumpers would've done in a ruck with a bloke who looks like he eats tripe for breakfast, lunch and dinner and whose idea of speaking a foreign language is to shout 'Oi Gunga Din' to a waiter in an Indian restaurant.

    A bit strange to not include VAR in all games, don't you think? The commentator here hasn't talked any more about VAR either.

    As a neutral, that would be quite a fight to see. More entertaining than what's going on out on the pitch! Such a clash of style between the two, as you mentioned, haha! :))
  • TheWizardOfIceTheWizardOfIce 'One of the Internet's more toxic individuals'
    edited February 2018 Posts: 9,117
    Wigan v City quite a decent ding dong and City down to 10 men evens it up a bit. The ref gets a yellow out at first and then changes it to red did the VAR guy overrule him?

    Nonetheless seeing Pep losing his shit quite amusing.

    Is there VAR in this game at all? The commentator on TV here said there wasn't.

    Shame they went to commercial just as the tunnel cam was on, as things went crazy there! Read somewhere that Ederson appeared to push Cook!
    Drama! Watching Wigan Athletic-Manchester City right now, and City are down to ten men after Delph get's the red after a sliding tackle which catches Power across the ankles - I think. Only saw the one replay, which didn't show the right angle. This was just before half-time, and there's a full half to go!

    On top of that, the referee appears to have had a yellow card in his hand, but then takes out the red. Guardiola and Cook are seen furious on the sidelines, with heated exchanges going between them.

    In England where we 'kick and beat each other to death like real men' it's a yellow but his studs were up a bit and I've seen them given. Don't really see why Pep is going mental. Perhaps it might be because he now might have to actually earn his money for the next 45?

    Perhaps! Makes this Monday game a lot more exciting, that's for sure!

    I thought all these FA Cup games have VAR? But there again no one has really mentioned it so you might be right.

    We got the tunnel footage here and it looked like Pep was basically shouting 'Do you want some? I'm handy' at the Wigan manager. Alas he was held back as I would've liked to see how the urbane, metrosexual tactician with a nice line in designer jumpers would've done in a ruck with a bloke who looks like he eats tripe for breakfast, lunch and dinner and whose idea of speaking a foreign language is to shout 'Oi Gunga Din' to a waiter in an Indian restaurant.

    A bit strange to not include VAR in all games, don't you think? The commentator here hasn't talked any more about VAR either.

    As a neutral, that would be quite a fight to see. More entertaining than what's going on out on the pitch! Such a clash of style between the two, as you mentioned, haha! :))

    I agree it's ludicrous that some matches can have it and some can't. Surely the rules of a competition has to be the same for all teams doesn't it? So one team gets knocked out because the linesman lets an offside goal stand an one goes through because the VAR denies the same offside goal?

    Hello!!! Will Grigg's on fire etc....

    Let's see what Pep has in his locker now!
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    Will Grigg's on Fire!!! :-O
  • TheWizardOfIceTheWizardOfIce 'One of the Internet's more toxic individuals'
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    Will Grigg's on Fire!!! :-O

    Great minds Sir!!!
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