Skyfall: Billion Dollar Bond

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  • edited December 2012 Posts: 203
    I guess this guy doesn't know about the SF boxoffice ...

    Mission Impossible 5
    With "Mission Impossible Ghost Protocol" director Brad Bird confirmed to not be returning, McQuarrie's name became attached as a possible director for a fifth "Mission: Impossible" a few weeks ago. Paramount is reportedly very pleased with the work he has done on 'Reacher', and McQuarrie happily confirmed the talk albeit admitting it is extremely early days yet:

    "We’ve just started talking about it. He [Tom Cruise] is very busy with 'All You Need is Kill', JJ [Abrams] is very busy with 'Star Trek Into Darkness', I’m busy promoting this movie. Obviously, I love working with him [Cruise] and would love to do it, it’s daunting in that I would have to follow Brad Bird… you know, the biggest movie of the genre.At the same time that’s kinda what I like about it, I like to come from a place of lowered expectation and I have to imagine that when they find out a filmmaker like me who feels, as someone put it earlier today 'street level'… between 'Way of the Gun' and 'Reacher' and movies like that, I have to imagine that when it becomes real that people’s expectations could not be any lower

    you wish ... get your facts straight buddy :-)
  • Posts: 277
    when was it written thou?
  • Posts: 203
    the interview was done by Garth Franklin on December 3rd, 2012 (from Darkhorizons website)
  • Posts: 277
    jeez your right then no research done at all lol!
  • Posts: 203
    so if Japan and China are cold on SF ... will it still make it to $1 billion? or will we have to wait for bond 24 :-(
  • Posts: 277
    yes i think so by a little bit depends on holds after the hobbit is released.
  • doubleoegodoubleoego #LightWork
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    At this point it doesn't matter. SF has done all it needed to do and more and in the process reclaimed Bond's title as the biggest in the genre.
  • Posts: 277
    Still would be nice billion dollar bond :)
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    IF Skyfall does badly in China then Bond 24 should feature a Chinese villain to really p..s them off!
  • edited December 2012 Posts: 11,119
    Here are some figures that show the Chinese market is quickly becoming very important. 'Casino Royale' was the first ever Bond film to premiere in China and 'The Dark Knight Rises' was the first Batman film to premiere in China. here's a list:

    --> 2006 - $ 11.8 K - 'Casino Royale'
    --> 2007 - $ 3.0 K - 'The Bourne Ultimatum'
    --> 2008 - $ 21.0 K - 'Quantum Of Solace'
    --> 2008 - $ 15.1 K - 'Hancock'
    --> 2008 - not allowed - 'The Dark Knight' (reasons not given, but Chinese refused 'The Dark Knight')
    --> 2010 - $ 68.4 K - 'Inception' (premiered two months after premiere in USA)
    --> 2011 - $101.2 K - 'Mission: Impossible - Ghost Protocol' (premiered 6 weeks after premiere in USA)
    --> 2012 - $ 52.8 K - 'The Dark Knight Rises' (premiered one month after premiere in USA)
    --> 2012 - $ 16.1 K - 'The Bourne Legacy'
    --> 2012 - not opened yet - 'Taken 2'

    Reasons that 'Skyfall' will do very well in China: All the reasons that made 'Skyfall' already big in all other markets. Plus the fact that the Bond film is set in Sjanghai. Better promotion you can't get.

    Reasons that 'Skyfall' will do not so well in China: Compared to 'Mission: Impossible - Ghist Protocol', 'Skyfall' is less 'dumb entertainment' and really very much about modern day espionage. A subject the Chinese would rather put to the background. I think that's the main reason the premiere has been pushed back to next year. And then piracy will have some influence.

    Still, considering the success of that other critically acclaimed Nolan-film, 'The Dark Knight Rises', I'd say $65 million is a good prediction.


    By the way, this is what 'BoxOfficeMojo' is saying: "Skyfall's new foreign total is $623 million (a Bond record by nearly $200 million), and worldwide it's at $869 million. From its existing markets, it's going to easily get past $950 million, and it will be up to China to close the gap to $1 billion."
  • edited December 2012 Posts: 2,015
    In China, TDKR has done 56M$ and is over, Taken 2 has done 19M$ and is over, Bourne Legacy has done 34M$ and may end at 36M$ by a rough guess.
    Is it the billion target that makes you so excited that you write for instance that Hancock did 15100 $ instead of 15100000 $ ? :)


  • edited December 2012 Posts: 2,015
    LeChiffre wrote:
    IF Skyfall does badly in China then Bond 24 should feature a Chinese villain to really p..s them off!
    Well, Shangai and Macau are parts of China, and Bond faces quite a few baddies other there. Even the somehow only "good" character from that place, Severine, has been raped by the locals, we learn...

    It is said by some TDK was not released in China because it depicted Shanghai as a paradise for illegal trafic, it's quite a good news Skyfall should be released at all I guess.

  • edited December 2012 Posts: 2,015
    On second thoughts (and it was a kind of "ah ah" moment...), there is a major point against SF in China : if it is released at a same time than the Hobbit, it will be a non-3D release at the same time as a 3D release. And Chinese moviegoers love 3D according to experts. Titanic 3D broke records (and Titanic was released in China before). And last week, 4 of the 5 top movies were 3D : Life of Pi, 2012 (yes, the 2009 movie has been released in 3d especially for China, that's quite telling - and the 2D movie had already been a success there before), Wreck It Ralph and Rise of the Guardians (the 5th is a local cops movie).
    So, if it's indeed released at the same time as The Hobbit, it may do only a third of its potential I'm afraid.
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    I expect that SF will make 16m in USA this week and 20m in the rest of the world.

    Which by my thinking will mean that SF will have 960/70M at the end of the year.

    I don't know what to expect from Asia but if the movie does half as good as it did in USA SF might be #1 Bond movie at the box-office.
  • RC7RC7
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    Reasons that 'Skyfall' will do not so well in China: Compared to 'Mission: Impossible - Ghist Protocol', 'Skyfall' is less 'dumb entertainment' and really very much about modern day espionage. A subject the Chinese would rather put to the background.

    It seems Inception did reasonably well according to your list. That's arguably quite intelligent for a blockbuster, and is concerned with industrial espionage. SF is more about the human story, there was not much espionage from what I saw so hopefully we'll be ok.

  • edited December 2012 Posts: 2,015
    RC7 wrote:
    It seems Inception did reasonably well according to your list. That's arguably quite intelligent for a blockbuster, and is concerned with industrial espionage.
    I've always wondered how important is the actual details of the content of the movie for moviegoers to decide if they will go and see it or not. Most only know about the trailers and some vague reputation. I really doubt many people think "ah it's a spy movie, but an industrial spy movie, so I won't go.." !

    About the success of Inception in China, don't forget it was released in almost optimal conditions : no other US blockbuster the same week, a Nicholas Cage movie the week after, and then four weeks with no more US competition. If China wants to make Skyfall fight with the Hobbit 3D, well use Inception as a measure of its potential, but not of how much it will do. Also don't forget 0M$ is still a possibility. Resident Evil Retribution 3D was also supposed to open in China after some delay, officials said. And yet still no date, but they won't easily say they censor it.


  • RC7RC7
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    RC7 wrote:
    It seems Inception did reasonably well according to your list. That's arguably quite intelligent for a blockbuster, and is concerned with industrial espionage.
    Most only know about the trailers and some vague reputation. I really doubt many people think "ah it's a spy movie, but an industrial spy movie, so I won't go.." !

    This is what I was implying. Sometimes dry humour doesn't translate so well.
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    Skyfall shoots back to the top of the UK box office


    In its sixth week, Skyfall has returned to number one at the UK box office, preventing the climactic Twilight from recording a hat-trick at the top of the charts.

    The latest Bond mission added $3.6m (£2.3m) through to Sony to stand at a mammoth $150.8m (£93.8m) to date. It is now on the brink of overtaking Avatar’s $149.6m (£94m) haul as the UK’s all-time biggest grosser, with Skyfall set to topple that record in the coming days, if not today.

    http://www.screendaily.com/box-office/skyfall-shoots-back-to-the-top-of-the-uk-box-office/5049596.article
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
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    Fiction can indeed connect to reality.

    Bond, like in the film, is coming back for more!
  • doubleoegodoubleoego #LightWork
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    Sweet!
  • Samuel001Samuel001 Moderator
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    First film to earn £100 million would be nice too!
  • Germanlady wrote:

    Skyfall shoots back to the top of the UK box office


    In its sixth week, Skyfall has returned to number one at the UK box office, preventing the climactic Twilight from recording a hat-trick at the top of the charts.

    The latest Bond mission added $3.6m (£2.3m) through to Sony to stand at a mammoth $150.8m (£93.8m) to date. It is now on the brink of overtaking Avatar’s $149.6m (£94m) haul as the UK’s all-time biggest grosser, with Skyfall set to topple that record in the coming days, if not today.

    http://www.screendaily.com/box-office/skyfall-shoots-back-to-the-top-of-the-uk-box-office/5049596.article



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  • Posts: 6,601
    Is anything of importance coming out in the US this week? If not, maybe it can do it over there as well. It was pretty close already.
  • edited December 2012 Posts: 803
    Germanlady wrote:
    Is anything of importance coming out in the US this week? If not, maybe it can do it over there as well. It was pretty close already.
    Nothing I'm aware of until The Hobbit comes out. It's possible Skyfall can resume the top spot. That'd be something (though I don't expect it'll happen).

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    The Hobbit will probably kill everything 1 mile around it. Its in 2 weeks, right?
  • Germanlady wrote:
    The Hobbit will probably kill everything 1 mile around it. Its in 2 weeks, right?
    I believe it opens around the 16th in the states, yes.

  • Posts: 277
    The Hobbit comes out on the 14th December in the USA so the weekend after this one. Skyfall will probably return to no 1 this weekend as only Playing for keeps is out this weekend it has no chance of it going to no1. Lincoln may challenge Skyfall for no1 Twilight has very little of spending a fourth week at no1 due to it's big drops.
  • I don't think The Hobbit will be as huge as LOTR, the reviews aren't as strong and outside the fan circles I don't see that much hype. It might crack a billion though with the help of 3D. $1billion isn't quite the feat it once was :(
  • Tobester95 wrote:
    I don't think The Hobbit will be as huge as LOTR, the reviews aren't as strong and outside the fan circles I don't see that much hype. It might crack a billion though with the help of 3D. $1billion isn't quite the feat it once was :(

    We'll see. Sometimes the viewing public loves stuff the critics aren't too fond of. I am very interested to see how this 48 frames per second looks on the big screen.
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    Tobester95 wrote:
    I don't think The Hobbit will be as huge as LOTR, the reviews aren't as strong and outside the fan circles I don't see that much hype. It might crack a billion though with the help of 3D. $1billion isn't quite the feat it once was :(

    We'll see. Sometimes the viewing public loves stuff the critics aren't too fond of. I am very interested to see how this 48 frames per second looks on the big screen.

    Apparently it's great 48 frames per second amazing quality. Well almost every box office follower believes it will smash a billion hype is huge pre sale tickets sales are of the charts. I can't understand how it can't be almost everyone i know loves the LOTR trilogy and is excited for the Hobbit and reviews mean nothing at the box office. The reviews are good but not as good as LOTR but they where bound to be worse as expectation was to high.

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