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  • SharkBaitSharkBait
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    It broke all the weekend records here. Harry Potter, the first one held the previous record. When I went to see it on Saturday, every showing was booked full. I almost didn't get to see it then, because I was going to wait until the next month. I just couldn't wait in the end.
  • bondsumbondsum
    Posts: 3,333
    It won't beat Thunderball's inflation adjusted BO figure, which let's not forget was made for considerably less than SF. My guess is 4th or 5th most profitable Bond movie after production cost deductions.
  • Comte_de_BleuvilleComte_de_Bleuville
    Posts: 108
    bondsum wrote:
    It won't beat Thunderball's inflation adjusted BO figure, which let's not forget was made for considerably less than SF.

    Are you going to inflation adjust the TB production budget too?
  • LeChiffreLeChiffre
    Posts: 1,548
    Let's just hope the American audience don't let us down as that's the major market.
  • JWESTBROOKJWESTBROOK
    edited October 2012 Posts: 5,745
    Knee in mind the majority of Skyfall's marketing budget has been covered with product placements.. so Eon is making more than it seems.
  • Gustav_GravesGustav_Graves
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    Comte_de_Bleuville wrote:
    bondsum wrote:
    It won't beat Thunderball's inflation adjusted BO figure, which let's not forget was made for considerably less than SF.

    Are you going to inflation adjust the TB production budget too?

    Maybe 'Thunderball' is not at reach, but I firmly believe 'Skyfall' can beat the inflation adjusted figures of 'Live And Let Die', 'You Only Live Twice' and even 'Goldfinger'.

  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
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    Personally I don't think any comparisons between SF and the 60s Bonds can be drawn with a straight face. The entire cinema going culture has changed. We live in an era where home video entertainment is unlike anything people could have even imagined in the 60s. And we have so much more to keep us occupied. Our financial means have somewhat changed and so on.

    I'll keep my eye on where SF will rank compared to CR and QOS. ;-)
  • maxcraigmaxcraig
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    Figures are corrected, now it's $80.6 millions even better.
  • 001001
    Posts: 1,575
    Could be a total box office of close to 1 billion the way it's going.
  • JWESTBROOKJWESTBROOK
    Posts: 5,745
    maxcraig wrote:
    Figures are corrected, now it's $80.6 millions even better.

    Do you have a link to that figure? ( So I can update the 1st post :) )
  • KanangaKananga
    Posts: 367
    Does anyone have Mondays UK figures?
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
    Posts: 24,159
    001 wrote:
    Could be a total box office of close to 1 billion the way it's going.

    That would be amazing! (It would also be bad new for Bond 24 ;-) )
  • HASEROTHASEROT has returned like the tedious inevitability of an unloved season---
    edited October 2012 Posts: 4,399
    DarthDimi wrote:
    Personally I don't think any comparisons between SF and the 60s Bonds can be drawn with a straight face. The entire cinema going culture has changed. We live in an era where home video entertainment is unlike anything people could have even imagined in the 60s. And we have so much more to keep us occupied. Our financial means have somewhat changed and so on.

    I'll keep my eye on where SF will rank compared to CR and QOS. ;-)

    Exactly Darth... also - films back then stayed in the theaters much longer than they do now - and those BO totals also reflect re-releases of said films as well - so all that needs to be taken into account.... today, the average film only has a lifespan of about 2.5 - 3 months (if it's even that lucky) in cinemas before i reaches the home video market..

    CR had roughly 4 months at cinemas in 2006 (US domestic total).. and just 2 years later, QOS only had 2 months (again, US domestic)... films just don't stick around as long anymore..... a movie like TB back in the day might have had close to 6 or 7 months - maybe even close to a year in theater...

  • JWESTBROOKJWESTBROOK
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    Bond nearing 1 Billion will be determined by it's major competition.. The Hobbit anyone?
  • HASEROTHASEROT has returned like the tedious inevitability of an unloved season---
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    JWESTBROOK wrote:
    Bond nearing 1 Billion will be determined by it's major competition.. The Hobbit anyone?

    that could/will be the only major road block for Bond getting to 1 billion with SF.... but... Bond will be out for nearly a month before The Hobbit opens, so one hopes that SF does the majority of it's big box office business by then, and can maintain decent numbers afterwards...

    i predict a $90 - $100 million opening weekend here in the states..

  • Gustav_GravesGustav_Graves
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    Just in case, I saw this beautiful number: '1000' :-):

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  • Gustav_GravesGustav_Graves
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    HASEROT wrote:
    DarthDimi wrote:
    Personally I don't think any comparisons between SF and the 60s Bonds can be drawn with a straight face. The entire cinema going culture has changed. We live in an era where home video entertainment is unlike anything people could have even imagined in the 60s. And we have so much more to keep us occupied. Our financial means have somewhat changed and so on.

    I'll keep my eye on where SF will rank compared to CR and QOS. ;-)

    Exactly Darth... also - films back then stayed in the theaters much longer than they do now - and those BO totals also reflect re-releases of said films as well - so all that needs to be taken into account.... today, the average film only has a lifespan of about 2.5 - 3 months (if it's even that lucky) in cinemas before i reaches the home video market..

    CR had roughly 4 months at cinemas in 2006 (US domestic total).. and just 2 years later, QOS only had 2 months (again, US domestic)... films just don't stick around as long anymore..... a movie like TB back in the day might have had close to 6 or 7 months - maybe even close to a year in theater...

    DarthDimi is right off course. Very true. But one thing hasn't changed in today's fast product life cycles of capitalism: Money. And movies, no matter how short they stay in cinema, they keep being money machines. What 'Thunderball' was in the 1960's, the true start of modern day blockbusters in cinema, is perhaps 'Lord Of The Rings', 'Harry Potter', 'Avatar', 'Batman', 'Star Wars' now. Even when you take in account the inflation correction, the shorter life cycles, the shorter timespan of movies being shown in cinema, compared to let's say the 1960's, still doesn't seem to slow down box office results. On the contrary, in a shorter time frame these franchises could do more than a movie in the 1960's.

    And I believe, with the James Bond franchise still staying strong, and still creating so much buzz and media attention, one should be astonished about the endurance of the franchise. Especially since the key factors of its success are not that much different compared to the time when 'Thunderball' premiered.
  • Comte_de_BleuvilleComte_de_Bleuville
    edited October 2012 Posts: 108
    JWESTBROOK wrote:
    maxcraig wrote:
    Figures are corrected, now it's $80.6 millions even better.

    Do you have a link to that figure? ( So I can update the 1st post :) )

    Industry mag Screen International have up dated $77.7m to $80.6 now the actuals are in.
    [url]http://www.screendaily.com/box-office/bond-is-back-with-a-vengeance-skyfall-opens-on-806m/5048277.article
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  • DouglasQuaidDouglasQuaid
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    Kananga wrote:
    Does anyone have Mondays UK figures?

    Well it made at least £15 that day from me and my brother. We both really enjoyed it and think it's probably one of the top 3 films in the franchise.
  • Comte_de_BleuvilleComte_de_Bleuville
    Posts: 108
    This is getting crazy. Skyfall set an extraordinary record for Monday ticket sales!

    SKYFALL £4.3m
    HPDH2 £3.2m
    TDKR £2.3m
    HPDH1 £1.7m
    QoS £1.8m

    Most blockbusters would be very happy with that for opening day, but Monday!!!
  • Gustav_GravesGustav_Graves
    Posts: 11,119
    Comte_de_Bleuville wrote:
    This is getting crazy. Skyfall set an extraordinary record for Monday ticket sales!

    SKYFALL £4.3m
    HPDH2 £3.2m
    TDKR £2.3m
    HPDH1 £1.7m
    QoS £1.8m

    Most blockbusters would be very happy with that for opening day, but Monday!!!

    Told ya guys :-). 'Skyfall' will be our own 'Thunderball' money-wise :-). And let's be honest, 'Skyfall' has got real 'thunderballs' no :-)?
  • forgotmyusernameforgotmyusername
    Posts: 2,782
    That big storm across the pond is going to effect box office takings....bad timing I'm afraid. China and India will give Bond the dosh.
  • HASEROTHASEROT has returned like the tedious inevitability of an unloved season---
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    forgotmyusername wrote:
    That big storm across the pond is going to effect box office takings....bad timing I'm afraid.

    the Hurricane (or now Superstorm) will be over in a couple days... it might effect it a little, maybe only a few million (between $5-10 million at the most) - but not a lot, and i doubt it will effect it that much....... the film opens next week anyway.... this hurricane isn't as bad as Katrina - things will be back to normal fairly quickly

  • Gustav_GravesGustav_Graves
    Posts: 11,119
    HASEROT wrote:
    forgotmyusername wrote:
    That big storm across the pond is going to effect box office takings....bad timing I'm afraid.

    the Hurricane (or now Superstorm) will be over in a couple days... it might effect it a little, maybe only a few million (between $5-10 million at the most) - but not a lot, and i doubt it will effect it that much....... the film opens next week anyway.... this hurricane isn't as bad as Katrina - things will be back to normal fairly quickly

    Uhm, it's a little bit bigger than that friend: http://edition.cnn.com/2012/10/30/us/tropical-weather-sandy/index.html?hpt=hp_t1
  • HASEROTHASEROT has returned like the tedious inevitability of an unloved season---
    edited October 2012 Posts: 4,399
    Gustav_Graves wrote:
    HASEROT wrote:
    forgotmyusername wrote:
    That big storm across the pond is going to effect box office takings....bad timing I'm afraid.

    the Hurricane (or now Superstorm) will be over in a couple days... it might effect it a little, maybe only a few million (between $5-10 million at the most) - but not a lot, and i doubt it will effect it that much....... the film opens next week anyway.... this hurricane isn't as bad as Katrina - things will be back to normal fairly quickly

    Uhm, it's a little bit bigger than that friend: http://edition.cnn.com/2012/10/30/us/tropical-weather-sandy/index.html?hpt=hp_t1

    umm..... i'm living in it right now friend....

    is Sandy a big historic storm? yes... but is it going to cause more destruction, or damage than the typical hurricane? no.... so far, it seems par for the course - the only difference is, is that a storm like this hasn't hit this far north in a very long time..... i've been watching TWC, and they are saying this storm will be over with by thursday - which is what i have been saying (a couple days)...... wind speeds have already started slowly decreasing, yesterday was it's peak...

    by this time next week - the flood waters will have rescinded, power will be back, clean up will already have been well underway - things will slowly be getting back to normal... the real problem, will be in NYC and cleaning out the salt water from the subway and electrical tunnels before it starts eating through the lines - that, will take a very long while...

    not sure where you're from, but Hurricanes/Tropical Storms are pretty common here in the states.

  • bondsumbondsum
    edited October 2012 Posts: 3,333
    Comte_de_Bleuville wrote:
    bondsum wrote:
    It won't beat Thunderball's inflation adjusted BO figure, which let's not forget was made for considerably less than SF.
    Are you going to inflation adjust the TB production budget too?

    Yes, of course.

    Figures adjusted for inflation (budget included)...

    Thunderball (1965)
    Profitability 1569%

    Casino Royale (2006)
    Profitability 583%

    Quantum of Solace (2008)
    Profitability 255%

    http://007.lucklaboratories.com/
  • Comte_de_BleuvilleComte_de_Bleuville
    Posts: 108
    bondsum wrote:
    Comte_de_Bleuville wrote:
    bondsum wrote:
    It won't beat Thunderball's inflation adjusted BO figure, which let's not forget was made for considerably less than SF.
    Are you going to inflation adjust the TB production budget too?

    Yes, of course.

    Figures adjusted for inflation (budget included)...

    Thunderball (1965)
    Profitability 1569%

    Casino Royale (2006)
    Profitability 583%

    Quantum of Solace (2008)
    Profitability 255%

    http://007.lucklaboratories.com/

    And TB benefits from reissues and double bills, something that just doesn’t happen today. Nowadays, they use pay-per-view, DVD and Blu-ray etc to make-up profitability.
  • bondsumbondsum
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    I agree, @Comte_de_Bleuville, but that could be said of any movie (or Bond picture) before the introduction of VHS, PPV, DVD, etc. However if the film isn't popular it won't sell in any of these formats.

    Also, one could argue that there's more people on the planet since 1965 so the modern Bonds have the distinct advantage of having a slice of a far bigger audience.
  • maxcraigmaxcraig
    Posts: 229
    1600000 tickets sales in 5 days for France which is more than the previous Craig and Brosnan's Bond.
  • PanchitoPistolesPanchitoPistoles 2.0
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    Samuel001 wrote:
    I'll take it. Skyfall won't get anywhere near $900 million worldwide.

    As a Bond fan, how can you have so little faith in the box office potential of this movie? :(
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