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Come on, your response lacks something too, Craiglover?
I prefer Brosnan too, and yes Craig has that thuggishness too but it would not be my major put-off. I like Craigs 007 sometimes, but of all performers he is not my favorite and neither is his era so far.
When the next 007 comes around we get this song & dance all over again with the next gen of 007's fans.
So your response of "anti Craig"is rather unnuanced just like the statement, ven if it has some recognisable part in it for me.
None at all. I think honesty in debate is the only way forward. Look forward to talking with you over time on this forum.
B-)
When we got GE back in the day we were ecstatic that we got a Bond film at all - people forget that a lot of us thought that the series was over for good (I realize how strange that must sound now). Myself and my friends were worried about Brosnan in the role; he seemed too lightweight and I worried that he would be replicating Remington Steele rather than playing Bond. There was also the fact that at the press conference announcing his casting Brosnan said that it was time to "peel back the layers" and explore the character of Bond. As a huge Dalton fan that really got my back up; it was sounding like he thought he was the first actor to ever play Bond who had thought to do that.
When we saw GE I was relieved that Brosnan was much better than I thought he'd be. He was actually believable in the fights and his "strong, silent type" demeanour in some scenes increased his presence (both of these elements I would later put down to Martin Campbell). But there were times were he seemed like he was *playing* Bond instead of being Bond, and that carried over to all his films - although to a lesser degree with every passing film. In fact, as he became more commanding in each film he also became more smug and smarmy - a poor trade-off IMHO.
But he was certainly charming and the audiences liked him and many thought he "saved" the franchise so I have gratitude for him being in the role. I realize now that he was quite limited as an actor - he always went for the most obvious line readings, and many times he "pushed" too hard because he didn't have the acting chops or conviction to play a scene. People who say he was faulted by the scripts really confuse me - no actor playing Bond had been given as much emotional meat to work with as Brosnan in every one of his films. Rather than thinking what he could have done with "better scripts" I'm curious as to what a better actor could have brought to what we got.
But again, we had worried that Bond was over so to see that Bond was popular in the 90s - well, a lot of us were happy to take what we got!
I was concerned by Craig's casting as much as anyone but was really surprised at how much presence he had in the trailer for CR. And when I saw the film Craig had me sold after his first two scenes. Here was a man with presence, a man would could show character through an action scene (!), and a man who gave interesting and unusual line readings that tweaked the meaning of words to make the lines even better. and beyond all that he gave us - and I never would have believed it was possible - a three-dimensional James Bond. As a critic at the time said, for the first time since I saw Connery as Bond as a kid, I watched a Bond film and thought "I want to be that guy!"
With SF, Craig was even more commanding and even more three-dimensional, and he had a nice way with the humour in the film too. I can't wait to see what an even more relaxed and fun Bond 24 gives us.
Brosnan just oozes cool. I think along with Connery he's the Bond with the most charisma. Even little things he did he'd do with a ton of slickness and style.
Didn't Brosnan say he admired what Dalton did and wanted to carry on peeling back the skin?
I thought the series was over then too and I was pissed off Dalton wasn't coming back but I really liked GE and I thought Brosnan was great. Not as good as Dalton, but then who is? ;)
For a second there I was shocked because I thought you were @Getafix but then I realised you just had the same avatar.
I was agreeing with you till you said that. I think that Pierce is a better Bond than Daniel is, but Daniel got the better movies. However, Sean will always be the best!
Bronsan was just too -- soft, for lack of a better way of putting it, for my tastes for that character.
In my eyes, Daniel Craig is a better Bond than Pierce Brosnan in every single regard.
Brosnan also has the misfortune of appearing in the 4 worst Bond films in the entire franchise, with an ultimate low peaking with DAD - the worst film ever made.
Whereas Craig has had the fortune to appear in 2 of the very best films in the entire franchise (no prizes for guessing which 2).
So this poll is hardly a fair comparison IMO.
Anyone who thinks Brozza is better than Craig doesn't deserve to call themselves a Bond fan......
;))
Brozza was nothing remotely like Connery.
Connery looked believable in a fight. He looked like the kind of guy you wouldn't want to mess with, the same way Craig does. Craig also has the Connery swagger walk.
Brozza looked like the kind of person who would start crying if someone ruffled up his hairsprayed barnet. Brozza's `pain face' is now legendary - and for all the wrong reasons!!
Personally as I've got older I've come to prefer Craig (better actor and a rougher edge to him) but that's a rather harsh statement don't you think?
This is the thing that gets me. It seems that those who can't stand Brosnan have a hostility towards him because he's still a popular Bond. DEAL WITH IT!!
For a lot of people (me included) Brosnan made them into Bond fans. Why shouldn't some people still like him?
True Brosnan looked a bit too GQ-ish at times and has a soft voice but you could also say Craig looks like a pouting working class builder who walks like the T-1000 and mumbles his dialogue. They all have their strengths and their weaknesses. I for one think both Brosnan and Craig had some very good moments in the role.
This sort of pole I hate because it seems to unleash the venom amongst fans.
Does he? If he does I've never noticed.
Don't be a knob.
The one at the end of Goldeneye was really cool I thought. And fair enough this isn't really a fight but when he took out the goons in the bankers office in TWINE, I thought he seemed tough then. His fight against Zao in the clinic wasn't bad either.
Nothing to deal with. Brozza is now history, no longer an issue to worry about. As far as I'm concerned, he isn't even part of the franchise. I completely disregard any of the 4 movies he was in as official Bond films. They are outcasts, the same as NSNA and CR 1967.
The series ends after LTK then starts again with CR as far as I'm concerned.
Wait, but you said he was in the worst Bond films ever? If they're not part of the franchise/series, then how can they be the worst ones? ;)
Well then stop bitching about it and let other people comment. YOU don't like him but a lot of people do.
I for one think TND, TWINE and DAD have some good moments but are average at best (even Brosnan seems to have forgotten them) however GE remains one of my favourites only recently pushed out my top 5 by SF.
Fixed. :)