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In saying that i think daniel craigs really thrown himself into the new games unlike brosnan whcih took 3 games in then they fired him for Sean.
Hey we are on the wrong board.
Exactly. They no longer 'feel' like Bond movies, but just action films which happen to feature a character called James Bond. I'd say the trouble started with LTK (although it's still a Bond movie) and then rapidly went down hill from GE onwards. GE ticks every possible box but is much less than the sum of its parts. CR and QoS were at least decent movies, but were they Bond movies? I feel QoS is more Bondian than CR and am always surprised by the amount of hate it gets. Forster actually understood Bond better than any director since John Glen.
People fail to distinguish between a good movie and a good Bond movie.
They should have never let Roger retire. He could still pull it off even now!
Yes! Definitely! There's another couple of missions in him yet!
He could have pulled it off!
No, his style wouldn't work now. Let's be honest.
He would have been perfect for the PTS free running sequence in CR and the close-hand combat stuff in QoS.
Roger is in prime physical fitness - the ladies would have loved it!
I guess I was just lucky enough to have been born when Bond started. I was 2 months old when Dr.No started filming. Saw my first film in 1968, technically Sean wasn't Bond as his contract had expired, but neither had George been announced so it went like that.
Regarding your bolded statement, I must say that I don't think you have seen or remember too much of QOS. Vesper is mentioned quite a few times by name and her death (Mathis says "she died for you" as an example) is far from ignored, Bond's motivation in part regarding Vesper is very clear, right down to where he tracks down and interrogates Kabira at the end. DAF doesn't mention Tracy by name or reference her death even one time. Watch both again and you'll see what I mean.
I agree that QOS was muddled and the issues I mention were a contributing factor in a big way. It could have been much better, almost everyone agrees on that. It's funny though, the more you watch it, especially immediately after CR, the better it gets as far as understanding everything going on. I understand what you are saying about MR, but I still prefer rookie Bond to a parody and 30+ years later I still feel the way I did then, and you should definitely read the novel because MR could have been so much more.
However - I think his Lotus would have struggled on the dirt road in QOS...
:)) Scashy used to say the same things
It would great to see the old Lotus brought back for SF instead of the DB5, again!
You could really see it looking great driving along the coast of southern Turkey, taking out the odd hovering helicopter.
I don't think DC could pull off the fish out the window gag though - it takes real acting quality to do that.
I heartily agree. Last time I watched them back to back and it all feels more coherent and lets face it, all QOS is is a coda to CR.
Lets hope SF will stand alone properly.
Truly classic Rog. Also love the 'out of order' sign on Kalbas body.
This is an amazing post! And Moore could have been Bond until 1993, and after that we have Brosnan, who retires in 2012.
While it would be cool to see the Lotus back - the DB5 has a much more timeless classic quality. Its a better fit. The Lotus screams flares and disco music. I forgot to mention earlier that I appreciate MR. I know it has its problems and is incredibly bad in parts but it is also incredibly entertaining. It knows what it is. But I think the poor parts are far out numbered by the good parts - the same can't be said for the train wreck that is DAD. For me MR has - great music, great sets, a half decent crazed villain, beautiful locations and style.
You gotta be sh*tt*ng me! Moore was past his sell buy by FYEO, which is his best, most Bondian performance! If only he had retired earlier (give him his due he did try, but Cubby kept offering more money), maybe the series wouldn't have gone so bad - AVTAK anyone?
Lord help us, no! They should have brought Roger back after Dalts dropped out for GE. Would have been brilliant.
Who's Stanley Kubrick?
Agree very much on TSWLM though MR, FYEO, OP and AVTAK was far from downhill
A little late for April Fool's day humor isn't it, is he being serious with this
Anybody who seriously wanted to have Moore as Bond until 1993, and even Brosnan until this year, well I don't know what to say really, words almost fail me
This isn't even the 'controversial opinions' thread either
For the benefit of Moonraker, and that's why we're here, Moore is still capable as James Bond and amid all the stupid nonsense that ensues, did not too bad a job, the G-force simulator is a classic example, one of the best Moore sequences of his tenure
For Your Eyes Only was a great success, but for the 1000th time, it was time to go after that, the actor just embarrassed himself in his last two appearances, there can be no dispute
Oh, I think there is a dispute about that. AVTAK was a step too far for Roger, in my opinion, but I thought Octopussy was superb. I wouldn't have wanted any other actor to play Bond in that film, either.
Ok, I know this is off-topic, but who would you have liked to see instead? Dalton from 1969-1999?
And as I have said, I think MR is out of this world. Interpret that as you wish.
And I like it more with the space scenes, those amazing space scenes... :P
It's all here:
http://www.listal.com/list/my-ultimate-james-bond-timeline
Though i'm still not quite 100% certain of Armitage.