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Arnie was in a harrier jet, Bond was in a tank.
I know Cubby and Babs wanted Dalton to stay... and it did not happen in the end. I doubt Dalton himself wanted to stay. In the end, what Cubby wanted was not enough. In any case, I don't think the US market was the only one enthusiastic about Brosnan and not too happy about Dalton.
And let me be clear here: I am not defending the quality of the Brosnan era, neither am I a fan of Brosnan. Not anymore anyway, not since 2002. When I evaluate GE and the Dalton doing GE hypothesis, I am trying with the best of my ability to do it objectively, based on what we know of the climate of the time. And Brosnan in GE was a contributing factor to the success of the movie.
And this is regardless of the quality of GE and what you think about it. I find The Phantom far superior to Batman Forever (stupid drivel), but it is the latter that was a big success in 1996. And Independence Day was a terrible movie, a turkey of epic proportions, but it was still a huge success.
~Wesley Kerns Feburary 27th, 2015 ;)
Independence Day is one of my favorite movies!
It's grand entertainment.
Terrible is... American Hot Wax... or similar drek.
Star Trek Generations? ;)
It took many years before Hollywood action bravado came back in full effect. Even now it's not quite to that pre-911 level. It's less fun. More pensive and moody.
Only MI4 and Olympus Has Fallen, and maybe Die Hard 4 (I'm not including the abomination that is 5) sort of took us back to that all American kick 'a' heroism.
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Good ol' Independence Day. A real guilty pleasure for me. Now 2012 on the other hand (*spit*). One of the only films I genuinely felt like walking out of when watching it in the cinema.
Even as a popcorn flick, it was incredibly dumb.
:))
The sarcasm would work better if the context was not clear.
I think a lot of people do wishful thinking here. Like a second movie with Lazenby or a fifth Brosnan movie.
That is one that really gives me headaches. FYEO would have been the best first movie for a new Bond actor, but some scenes in OP I cannot think of anyone selling it but Moore and AVTAK would have been a terrible first Bond movie.
And Octopussy is brilliant with Roger Moore, nobody could do it better. And FYEO with another actor would be blasphemy as Sir Moore did nail the role perfectly.
Then again AVTAK was one movie too many and FYEO would have been the ideal first Bond movie for a new Bond actor. More than TLD or LALD.
Well I am glad that we did not get a new actor as Roger Moore did a splendid job and as for AVTAK I still find it a grand movie even if Moore was a tad bit old, for me Patrick MacNee & Roger Moore in one movie should have been explored more with MacNee doing a John Steed.
AVTAK remains a guilty pleasure for me.
I do not like AVTAK much, but I agree that Patrick Macnee was great in it and his interaction is Roger Moore too. It arrived too late in Moore's tenure, sadly. But Moore is simply too old. That said, I don't think the movie would have worked at all for a new Bond.
That is why I find thinking about the right time for Moore to leave so headache inducing.
It seems that Craig did not need such a buffer, for the time being. I still think that SF will be considered the most overrated 007 movie in a few years.
One just has to be superior to the immediate predecessor in the general public's mind.
-Craig is, in relation to Brosnan.
-Lazenby was not, in relation to Connery
-Moore was, in relation to Lazenby
-Dalton was not, in relation to Moore
-Brosnan was, in relation to Dalton
I've never thought highly of AVTAK, but I've not seen it for many years. I'll try to catch a viewing soon and see if my impression changes.
Because Brosnan's star had waned during his tenure. I don't think any other Bond actor had it so easy when they were cast in the role, not even Sir Rog. He never really recreated the momentum of GE.
I dare to say that the Craigs' movies have become gradually worse as well, I fear for SP.
SF looks great but is easily one of the poorest 007 movie imho.