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Oh yes, Kitchen was great! Best Tanner by far. The others are perhaps ok, but nothing special. Except Coltrane, he is exceptionally cringeworthy.
The man himself agrees with me, so who am I to disagree.
James Bland.
https://www.theguardian.com/film/2014/apr/14/pierce-brosnan-james-bond-never-good-enough
This article perfectly sums up my views on Brosnan. Frankly he was an awful Bond. And the sad thing is he could actually have been alright. Laziness? Fear? Who knows, but he will never get a chance to put it right.
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/film/filmblog/2014/apr/14/james-bond-pierce-brosnan-007-goldeneye?client=safari
Brosnan was definitely oozing something.
I actually prefer watching Dalton as Bond. Most of his other stuff is not particualrly interesting to me. As I've said many times, Bond aside, I probably would gravitate to something with Pierce in it more than Dalts.
I actually recognise the flaws in Dalton. I don't think I've ever claimed he was my favourite Bond. Rog and definitley Sean are head and shoulders above him.
However, Brosnan as Bond simply doesn't make the grade. For all his flaws, Dalton is an edgier, more interesting take on the character. And I think we'd have continued to see an evolution in his performance of he'd done a couple more. Which is more than can be said about Brosnan, whose interpretation started weakly and went nowhere.
Tim had the experience to come up with his own interpretation, even if John Glen wasn't that into characterisation. You're not required to like it, but most people can see Tim had his own distinct take - the forerunner of Craig's in many ways.
Brosnan just didn't know what to do with the character. Yes the writing was bad and the directing generally indifferent, but at the heart of it is a totally unfleshed out cardboard cutout of Bond.
Playing Bond is much more difficult than Brosnan realised. Sean and Rog made it look effortless when it's anything but.
Tim I think probably doesn't make it look effortless, but that's a reflection of his take on the character. He went back to the books and wanted to portray someone a bit more complex and troubled than the screen Bond had been up until that point.
I think one of Brozza's mistakes was actually learning the wrong lessons from Dalton. He thought (like almost everyone did back then) that Dalton had screwed up and that what everyone wanted was a return to cartoon antics and bad quips. Light and frothy with not much content .
I too would have liked to see Tim relax into the role a little more, although I think the idea he's awkward or stiff the whole time is unfair.
And if you read what he's said about the character and where he wanted the third film to go, I think you'll find he agrees with you in terms of wanting a more devil may care style movie.
People seem to think he had a role in the direction they took with LTK. But he was handed the script a couple of weeks before shooting. Crazy when you think about it. He just had to get on and act the scenes that had been written for him. It would have been odd to have given a more relaxed performance in LTK, given the subject matter. I actually think he handles the constant changes in tone and mood pretty well.
Rog didn't really settle into his interpretation of the role until his third film. Imagine if Rog had only got to make two films and all we had to judge him on was LALD and Gun - his legacy would be seen very differently.
I think TLD is a pretty solid first entry for Tim. It seems to be fairly widely liked on here. And even on IMDB and Rotten Tomatoes it rates highly, suggesting the general public and critics liked it too. LTK is definitlely the tricky second album, but all things considered, I think it stands up pretty well.
What kills TLD for me is mostly down to the villains, Kara, some of the humorous bits and some overracted moments from Tim and the dull Afghanistan finale. I absolutely hate the Cello case sled scene. I hate it as much as the second half of DAD which sits at the bottom of my rank.
I would be interested in seeing a version of GE with Tim though. It would be interesting though. Would have been a success? I don't know. I love it just the way it is.
Can't stand Joe Don Baker in TLD or as Wade in the Brosnan films.
However, great soundtrack, henchman, Aston Martin. And a very decent first Bond perofrmance IMO. I even like the cello scene!
Obviously you're entitled to your views, but even you must recognise that having TLD ranked so low is a bit of an anomaly. Not sure many on here or even amongst the general public would share that view.
And of course i recognise the same is true in terms of my views on GE.
You can see how loads of this unmade film made its way into later Brosnan films.
The robot stuff always concernede but as described here doesn't sound so bad.
http://lifebetweenframes.blogspot.ug/2012/09/the-lost-dalton-film.html?m=1
Also like the idea of Bond investigating following a major nuclear leak. The set up sounds good.
What appears to be a civilian nuclear accident is actually something much more sinister, which Bond uncovers.
Love Hong Kong as a location as well.
Lots of good ideas IMO.
Two more Daltons in 91 and 93 and you still get your GE!
I wouldn't say he seemed uncomfortable in the role per se, except in GE perhaps. However, there was something about his interpretation which was very different to all the other Bond actors before him. Something less assured and more generic. More run of the mill and less distinctive. I can't quite put my finger on it. GE was such a throwback Bondian film (to me at least) with the Russian aspects and all, so I didn't notice it as much although the signs were there also.
In TND it became quite evident, but only after Kaufmann. Up until that point he was still not bad. I thought he was absolutely horrendous in the later half of TND (no Bond actor has worn the naval uniform less assuredly) and in all of TWINE. This had nothing to do with the scripts (although they were rather horrid in themselves), but more to do with him.
I found him at his best, ironically, in DAD. There was some of the cool, arrogant and stylish swagger that I expect from Bond. Examples include in Cuba, with Peaceful Fountains of Desire & Chang in HK, & in his dealings with Miranda.
In GE he was uncomfortable and rather self conscious but at least he was trying.
Nonetheless, I think his weakest scenes in that film are the Q scene, threatening Wade outside the airport ("Nooo...show me the rose") and the first part of the meeting with Valentin in the bar:
I was discussing Brosnan with a friend the other day and it struck me that either his performances (in all his films) are pretty good (eg The Ghost, Tailor of Panama) or bad (variety of TV movies he did such as Death Train etc.)
Yes, I agree that he was somewhat inconsistent. The two you mention above are highlights for me. He was similarly excellent in The Fourth Protocol and The Noble House .
One of my problems with him as Bond.
Oh I LOVE Death Train! Sure it's a bad movie but it has Christopher Lee, Patrick Stewart and Clarke Peters. And a train! We need more trains in our lives. Anyway it is a bad movie I love.
Regarding Brosnan he was happy playing the icon but never understood or truly tried to play the character.
That said, if we were to change the question to "Would GoldenEye have worked with Craig", I don't think he'd be able to do it. Dalton I think could.