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Will there ever be an R rated Bond film?

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  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
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    Creasy47 wrote:
    Breasts have been shown many times in PG-13 films. I'm not suggesting they be in Bond films, but it's happened in the past. That does include earlier Bond movies, but I'm not talking about times that stretch back to the 60's.

    I think Bond can thank Psycho for breaking the ice so to speak with openly showing off a woman's attributes/sexuality.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    @0BradyM0Bondfanatic7, I most certainly agree. Good call.
  • Goldeneye95Goldeneye95
    edited January 2013 Posts: 546
    I don't mind a rated R Bond film. If QT was hired by EON to helm Casino Royale, I think it would have been rated R. (Maybe) But at the same time, the PG-13 rating fits the Bond films.
  • Data_ThiefData_Thief Banned
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    TouchMyButtons wrote:
    Yes yes, there already was an R- RATED bond outing -"License to kill" which grossed the least amount of money in the franchise which simply bedazzles me, but I have a few reasons to believe why perhaps, this was Dalton's second outing, following the fairly serious yet still humorous outing, The Living Daylights", and before that was a hugely successful 7 film course of outings starring Roger Moore as Bond, how they were successful? maybe due to the slapstick silliness of the 70's era.

    Where im going at is mainstream audiences were used to Rogers Style of Bond, the comedy, corny charm, outrageous stunts and overall silliness. Dalton was following up on a 7 year tenure of a unrealistic silly tenure of Moore, while trying to Bring the character back to basics and what the books intended . Audiences couldn't comprehend that and were just too immuned to Moore's Style of Bond and this resulted in poor ticket sales for LTK.

    In my opinion LTK did not fail in ticket sales due to the R-Rating, it failed with mainstream audiences because people just weren't ready for a change of pace in Bond at the time, in this case a more serious gritty bond.

    But now its 2012, Craig is Bond, audiences know what to expect from Craig's style of Bond, grittyness,toughness, seriousness, realism and overall a darker style of Bond which I love by the way. If..and if EON decided to bring Bond to a R-RATING level, I would say this is perhaps the best time to do so due to the films being more serious with Craig. Am I saying they should just make Bond 24 "R" just to be R? no, but I think if EON wanted to really bring a dark,dark amazingly serious script with true reasons for having a R Rated rating, than it would be wise to do so before Craig's tenure is over because audiences could grasp the rating with more gratitude now than ever before.

    Conclusion - I would like to see another R rated bond film before I die to see what EON could do with more leverage of the R RATING than what the PG13 boundaries offer.

    But I know as long as the PG13 sells, we'll most likely not see this happen , atleast until producers either decide to take a huge risk or poor ticket sales happen.

    You're thoughts?

    I agree with most of what you have to say, for instance it would be very interesting to see what EON could do with the R rating if ever decided upon, but I only would want a R rated bond movie only if it was done right and took advantages of the rating when necessary. I wouldn't want an R bond just for tons of extra violence and cursing though, but none the less it would be awesome to see Daniel Craig strangling a enemy in the jungle, sweaty with blood on his hands, the enemy gasps for breath and bond whispers, "dont blame me, blame the British government, and the enemy while being strangled by bond replies faintly , "fuc* youuu". Bond kills him and then stealthily progresses onward in the plant life kingdom to quantum's offshore headquarters .
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
    edited January 2013 Posts: 28,694
    Oh, the tears! =))
  • delfloriadelfloria
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    A Bond Thriller should never be R- rated. Just not appropriate to the style of films.

    On the flip side a Matt Helm film, done true to the books, would have to be r-rated. Much like "History of Violence".
  • Data_ThiefData_Thief Banned
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    thelordflasheart wrote:
    I had a coworker once who swore all the time and would use the "f word" in every sentence. What was interesting was the viciousness with which he said it. It really illuminated the old quote that swearing is the only way that a weak, uneducated mind can think of to make a point forcefully. If you're well-spoken and intelligent you can say say things that take a person's breath away without having to resort to clumsiness.

    I feel the same way about nudity and violence in a Bond film. I think that CR did a great job of making the violence more potent and real without having to show anything that would suit the TV show Dexter better. Seeing Bond all bloody after the stairwell fight was plenty effective, and still is now even though the immediate contrast to previous Bond films (when his hair wouldn't even get mussed) has diminished.

    As for Brosnan, as I recall he was strangely angry that they had to keep reshooting his love scene with Elektra because her nipple showed in the shot. He asked why it would have been so bad to have seen it but the obvious counterpoint is how would it have made the scene better?


    great post, couldn't agree more. Also do you remember where you found out that little tidbit of Brosnan being upset with the TWINE love scene?
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