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I don't have answers for you, Benny. But I do still enjoy the film a lot, yes.
TND was the third Bondfilm I ever saw, and I think it was after that one I fell in love with the character. It has all the right elements, but it does'nt do much with them. I think Carver is pretty lame exept for the last 30 minutes of the movie. Stamper is okay. I don't like him THAT much, but he's okay. Wai Lin is terrible. I really don't like her at all! Teri Hatcher on the other hand is wonderful in it! I've read the article in MI6 Confidential about the relation between Brosnan and her under the shooting but they sell it so well! Dr. Kauffman is like the weirdest character in a Bondfilm ever, but you still gotta love him, right?! The Brozz is at his best here. I've always thought that TND was a better version of GE, not plot-wise, but otherwise such as Pierce's acting and such. The score is bloody brilliant! If you could re-score GE with TND's music, GE would be 100 times better! But, as I said: It's a very basic 007-movie. Nothing really outstanding, exept for the score maybe.... So there you have it: Tomorrow Never Dies is'nt all that bad!
I don't remember what I didn't like last time. Maybe the finale? This time I'll tackle it with the same attitude I have when I put on DAD.
*choke, sniff*
:)>-
Even now it's in my top five. I feel Spottiswoode achieved a pleasant blend of serious & fun in this entry. It was Brosnan's YOLT but with a more realistic means to a similar goal for the villain. IMO.
One could argue that TND really tries too much to 'tick all the boxes of the formula', but then again it does succeed very well in almost every department. As a kid this film introduced me to the world of the charming, sophisticated secret agent who was pitted against twisted villains and surrounded by beautiful women. The music score was brilliant, no-one can deny that. The Kaufman scene was a masterpiece and Bond uses his wit and improvisation to get out of nearly every situation.
Carver could have been a bit more menacing. Over the years I've really become a huge fan of Alec Trevelyan in GE, but his character was more fleshed out due to a better background story. Only if Carver could have had that, maybe by exploiting the 'love-triangle' with Paris more, like that he was around already at the time when Bond was 'dating Paris'. Stamper could have been a bit more fleshed out as well. I thought he was actually a nice reference to Fleming's (neo)-nazi characters from the books, rather than Red Grant in FRWL. Then again, it would have been totally politically incorrect to have such a character wander around in modern-day Germany.
The car scene is for me still the best one in the series. Plausible gadgetry, save for the saw underneath the BMW logo, although I keep telling friends it works with a built-in sonar-system to detect obstacles and reach the correct height... Still, the 750iL isn't a submarine or capable of invisibility.
@Benny
Well that's rather straightforward: Wai Lin uses the latest transcript from the Chinese Air Force and GPS-location of the aircraft that was destroyed.
The finale is one of the weaker efforts which pushes it to the 2nd half of the rankings for me.
How?
I was (and still am) a big fan of the Brosnan era. I loved GE and TWINE and I quite liked TND as well. And Die Another Day had so much going for it. The story with Bond being captured seemed really interesting and like nothing we'd ever seen in a Bond film. The new Bond girl was not only really fit, she was being played by an Oscar nominated actress. Brosnan (one of the best Bonds ever) was back and it was being written by the same people who wrote TWINE. There was going to be a car chase with a Jag and an Aston. It was the 20th Bond film and it was going to be a big celebration with loving nods to the past. I was really excited, so for DAD to turn out so crap was very disappointing for me.
QOS was the direct sequel to the amazing Casino Royale, it was going to pick up directly where that film left of. There was going to be a new sinister organisation (although I was actually disappointed that it wasn't SPECTRE as that's what I thought they were hinting towards in CR*), an epic car chase, loads of exotic locations and there was tons of money behind it, the budget was bigger than any other Bond film. And it turned out to be a pretentious, disappointing mess of a film imo. I was so let down because I thought after CR the standards had been raised, I was expecting something so much better.
I wasn't born when DAF came out and I actually think I saw it before OHMSS, otherwise that would probably be most the disappointing for me.
*I didn't know about all the legal issues back then
Together with Octopussy it's probably the most average and 'by the numbers' 007 film out there.
OP is a masterpiece.
TND is the best of Brosnan's 4 poor efforts as Bond.
by being not as good as it could have been. Great actor for the villain, but the villain ends up light weight. Paris Carver is both miscast and underused, then completely disregarded. Stamper is a clone of Grant on steroid. Not bad per se, just nothing outstanding or good. Like people mentioned here, it is maybe the most by the number Bond.
Agreed. Got it in one.
Might actually be worth saving if your house is on fire.
Agreed though it has more class than TND.
Yep, next question.
TND - great for action and stunts.
TWINE - great revenge flick, wonderful PTS.
DAD - good for sitting down and watching the most outlandish Bond you'll ever see.
Oh, and OP is definitely a masterpiece. ;)
- Probably Brosnan's best performance. He filled out a bit and his physical presence is better and he feels much more at ease here.
- TND is just a good Bond flick. It doesn't try to do anything outrageous or different to subvert the formula. It just follows the formula but it follows it WELL. And I see nothing wrong with that.
I see it as a slice of entertainment. Not the best Bond film but my second favorite Pierce film for sure. Pryce is excellent and underrated as Carver, Wai Lin is the only Bond girl in the whole franchise that convincingly kicks ass, Brosnan is great, the action sequences are great, and Arnold's score is pretty good too.
I'll always be one of TND's defenders. And Brosnan as a whole.
Nice to see us agreeing on something! Long live TND.
:-bd
TND plays like one of those too-cool-for-school updates of 60s TV shows that were "popular" in the late 90s - such as Lost in Space, Brady Bunch, Mod Squad, etc. It is equally clumsy and charmless. It has none of the assurance of Goldeneye and it's a mistake to consider it the best Brosnan. It might even be the worst. It is certainly the most unhappy and depressing.