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  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
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    Hermann and Greg also did Bernard Prince together.
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
    edited January 2018 Posts: 45,489
    Just read Bernard Prince: L Evasion de Cormoran from1966, by Hermann and Greg.

    This is the episode where he leaves the Interpol to become a boat captain, because he is tired of crooks. Good luck with that, Prince.
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
    edited January 2018 Posts: 45,489
    Mignola, Allie, Fiumara: ABE SAPIEN VOL 5-SACRED PLACES
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    Still happy with this series.
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
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    Mignola, Allie & Fiumara: ABE SAPIEN VOL 6-A DARKNESS SO GREAT
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    A comic series so great.
  • chrisisallchrisisall Brosnan Defender Of The Realm
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    I haven't bought any NEW superhero continuing series comic books in decades. But last week my Son & I visited our local comic shop, and as a result I decided to purchase these. If I like the stories as much as the art, I may continue. *To be continued* M5k775T.jpg
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
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    I was afraid of that.
  • j_w_pepperj_w_pepper Born on the bayou, but I now hear a new dog barkin'
    edited February 2018 Posts: 9,026
    I haven't been much of a comic reader for the last decades or so (notable exceptions: everything Carl Barks, Asterix, Tintin), but recently and for the first time I read something considered a graphic novel: "Der nasse Fisch" (aka Babylon Berlin), the first story of Volker Kutscher's police saga about the late 20s/early 30s now illustrated by Arne Jysch.
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    I had read the original novel (just like all others except the latest so far) before but found the graphic version quite intriguing, pretty accurately portraying the Berlin of the Weimar republic, much of which was lost in the war (e.g. the Karstadt department store on Hermannplatz prominently featuring in the final scene). It seems it has come out in English now (cf. this report on crimefictionlover.com , so let me recommend it to you.
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
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    Looks interesting.
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
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    Black Panther: Jungle Action
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    In anticipation of the Black Panther film coming out within the month, I got into my collection of some of the first Black Panther comic stories published, including his origin in a Stan Lee/Jack Kirby comic and all of Don McGregor's run with the character in the Jungle Action series of issues to get an idea of who the character is and what to expect.

    I came away from the character's origin story very underwhelmed. It was a Fantastic Four crossover from the 60s where Stan introduced Panther by having him invite Reed, Sue, Johnny and Ben to Wakanda where he tested his abilities in a fight with them in order to prepare for the return of Klaw. An alright issue, but the writing has dated horridly and I found the overwhelming amount of silliness and coincidence/random luck in the issue very tiresome. I think Panther is a character like Batman, by which I mean that he was written better by those who didn't create him. While Bob Kane and Bill Finger have the honors of bringing Batman to life, as Stan and Jack do T'Challa/Black Panther, other voices captured the inherent nature and tone of the characters better. In Black Panther's case, that "voice" was Don McGregor's.

    Before Black Panther took over as the character of the Jungle Action comics, Marvel used the umbrella of that name to feature stories of white characters in jungle settings having all forms of adventures. Climbing up the Marvel ladder from a proofreader to a lead writer, Don McGregor called out the silly and outdated Jungle Action books and their pushing aside of African characters in exchange for those of Caucasians, and Marvel game him the reigns to do what he wanted with the Jungle Action name. With the only restriction being that McGregor had to set his work in Africa, he took the character of Black Panther from his corny origins into a more adult, sophisticated and literary arena in an unexpected way. I'm only a few issues into the Jungle Action run of Panther stories, but I must say I am incredibly taken aback and McGregor has already become a writer who I would seek out the entire oeuvre of.

    While it's the likes of Frank Miller and Alan Moore who are often given credit for forcing comics to "grow up" in the 1980s through works such as The Dark Knight Returns/Batman: Year One/Daredevil and Watchmen/V For Vendetta respectively, Don McGregor seems to be a somewhat forgotten pioneer in comparison despite doing this kind of mature trailblazing with Panther a decade or more before the titans above. What he did with the Black Panther character truly is startling and impactful, as he took a character who was very thinly described in the 60s and gave him a dimensional and powerful sense of character into the 70s.

    The best way I could describe these comics is by using the adjective "poetic," as the art and writing come together to create issues that are as stirring and evocative in text as they are in visuals. While McGregor is sometimes criticized for the wordiness of his storytelling, filling entire panels and pages with many text bubbles or boxes, I really enjoy this kind of style as a fan of literature outside of comics. He writes with such grace, knowing exactly which words to employ given the situation, and everything has such an effective sense of movement like poetry should have. The best writers create music with words, paying attention to the rhythm and sound of their sentences, and that essence is very much at work here. Because of all this, these are comics that are about as close to literature as you could get, and that's down to how McGregor demands you to pay attention and become engaged by what he's writing because he works overtime to build up his characters, develop them through conflict and weave an overarching story of kingship, responsibility, duty, love, compassion and sacrifice.

    Just as Frank Miller and Denny O'Neil took a campy character like Batman and gave him maturity and layers, McGregor does the same with the Black Panther. In his story he has T'Challa just coming back from a long time in America, returning to Wakanda to find his native land erupted in conflict, murder and general upheaval through his absence. Through a series of gradually explosive events, T'Challa learns of his own duty as king and the consequences of what can happen when you leave your throne vacant and your people without a leader or protector. McGregor weaves a powerful story here where he tests T'Challa on all levels, not only as a man, but as a king. He's constantly haunted by the death of his father, a man whose death abdicated the throne to him, and we see how fearful he is of failing to be the kind of leader his father would've wanted as he's taken from trial to trial. It's a quintessential human story, and McGregor writes T'Challa/Black Panther as a very relatable and deep character with contradictions and blemishes that give him a profound life despite being a figure of royalty and great wealth who are commonly without such layers.

    To put it simply, these aren't comics for those expecting fun and simple hero/villain fights and very straightforward narratives. The stories are wordy and demand great engagement to fully experience, and the stories are very mature in their focus on the realities of the world and the dangers that T'Challa must face. Narratively and tonally, The Panther is judged as his enemies are, and the grayness of the morality that McGregor strives to portray brings T'Challa closer to these kinds of figures that he becomes separated from them. He makes mistakes, blurs lines and acts out in moments of anger in a way that removes him from the boy scout stakes of Superman, making him relatable and interesting as a king who struggles to earn the title. Because he's constantly wrestling with his personal demons of the past and the current demands of ruling the throne and being the protector of his land, we see how responsibility can become the chains around a man that immobilizes him.

    Even the villains are different from what you expect, because for how wacky and on the nose names like Killmonger or Venomm are, McGregor writes them in such a way that gives them layers too. Each villainous threat T'Challa faces has a relatable factor to them, with a past that gives us an explanation for why they are what they are. There are no simple motivations for these villains and none are mustache twirling or larger than life presences. Instead, they have been put on these dark paths because of a history of slavery, prejudice, social isolation and loss that others have put them through, making it clear that even T'Challa himself could've fallen to their depths if he'd have given into the anger and pain of his own life challenges.

    For anyone who enjoys the more adult work of Frank Miller or Alan Moore, I think what Don McGregor and his amazing artists have done in these Jungle Action comics would be very appreciated by each of you. I've been incredibly inspired as an artist and writer by reading these issues, not only for the amazing scripting of McGregor and the poetry of his work, but also because of the art of Rich Buckler, Gil Kane and Billy Graham, pencilers who have created some of the most innovative and striking panel designs I have ever encountered as a lifelong comics reader. The quality of the presentation and writing here is something truly special, and if anyone has ever wanted to jump into the fascinating world of the Black Panther, these are the comics to do it with. I'm now doubting if I could ever read any other Panther books not written by McGregor, and that's all down to the fact that he nails this character and the tone of his world and responsibilities so perfectly through his flowing, mature and lyrical style, crafting stories of consequence with powerful adult themes.
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
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    Mignola, Allie, Fiumara: ABE SAPIEN VOL 7: THE SECRET FIRE
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    A bit hit and miss. My favourites remain the first and third installments. This doesn t reach the same level as Hellboy.
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
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    DONALD DUCK: SECRET OF HONDORICA by Carl Barks.

    A collection of stories from 1955-56- As enjoyable now as when I first read them as a kid.

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  • Fire_and_Ice_ReturnsFire_and_Ice_Returns I am trying to get away from this mountan!
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    Just started reading The Last Son of Krypton
  • chrisisallchrisisall Brosnan Defender Of The Realm
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    Just started reading The Last Son of Krypton

    I hope you like it as much as I did!
  • Fire_and_Ice_ReturnsFire_and_Ice_Returns I am trying to get away from this mountan!
    edited February 2018 Posts: 25,092
    chrisisall wrote: »
    Just started reading The Last Son of Krypton

    I hope you like it as much as I did!

    Cheers for recommending just read several pages so far, the ship has crashed and Supes is trying to learn about the occupant.

    Edited: interesting @chrisisall the Supergirl TV series has borrowed a few things from this comic, Kal has just just been blasted with a Phantom Zone projector and met up again with Mon El, it's a good read and well illustrated.
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
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    UNCLE SCROOGE: THE LOST CROWN OF GENGHIS KHAN by Carl Barks.

    A collection of stories from 1956-61.
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    I have started rereading all my Fantagraphics Carl Barks collections. I have all but one, and really looking forward to coming volumes. They are released twice a year or so.
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    Nice! I've always liked the Duck comics by Barks, and in the summer of 2016 I read all the Disney comics he has worked on in chronological order. As much as I like Barks, Don Rosa has alwas been my single favourite comic book artist of all time. Are you buying Frantagraphics' Don Rosa books too?
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
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    No, I don t care that much for Rosa.
  • JohnHammond73JohnHammond73 Lancashire, UK
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    Batman: Gotham By Gaslight. Always enjoyed this Batman story. Great Elseworld graphic novel.
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
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    @Shark_0f_Largo
    Have you seen the animated adaptation?
  • JohnHammond73JohnHammond73 Lancashire, UK
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    DarthDimi wrote: »
    @Shark_0f_Largo
    Have you seen the animated adaptation?

    I have. I watched it right after reading the book. Really enjoyed it, even though most of the book is not really in there. Decent Batman flick.

  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
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    @Shark_0f_Largo

    I'm glad WB are doing some of the published Batman stories, especially the Elseworlds ones. I merely wish they'd stick closer to the source material in terms of design. Mignola's style is painfully missing here.
  • JohnHammond73JohnHammond73 Lancashire, UK
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    DarthDimi wrote: »
    @Shark_0f_Largo

    I'm glad WB are doing some of the published Batman stories, especially the Elseworlds ones. I merely wish they'd stick closer to the source material in terms of design. Mignola's style is painfully missing here.

    Yes, can’t disagree there. Mignola’s style in the book elevated the story. Wonderful work.
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
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    DarthDimi wrote: »
    @Shark_0f_Largo

    I'm glad WB are doing some of the published Batman stories, especially the Elseworlds ones. I merely wish they'd stick closer to the source material in terms of design. Mignola's style is painfully missing here.
    Exactly, @DarthDimi. Part of why I'm not rushing to see this newest WB animation is because, like The Killing Joke before it, it uses none of the style of its source material. To which I ask, what's the damn point?
  • chrisisallchrisisall Brosnan Defender Of The Realm
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    Been revisiting the 70's comics myself...
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  • JohnHammond73JohnHammond73 Lancashire, UK
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    DarthDimi wrote: »
    @Shark_0f_Largo

    I'm glad WB are doing some of the published Batman stories, especially the Elseworlds ones. I merely wish they'd stick closer to the source material in terms of design. Mignola's style is painfully missing here.
    Exactly, @DarthDimi. Part of why I'm not rushing to see this newest WB animation is because, like The Killing Joke before it, it uses none of the style of its source material. To which I ask, what's the damn point?

    I agree with all the above. I do wish that model of the source material was in there but it’s still a decent Movie. However, taking characters out, adding new (just for fans I guess) was not needed. The characters in the movie could easily have been taken from the book. One big miss in the GbG movie is
    Jacob Parker

    Great character in the book, sadly missing. But yes, it’s a shame they didn’t stick closer but there is content from the sequel, Master Of The Future.

    I believe, if you don’t worry about that, it’s a good movie in its own right.

  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
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    @Shark_0f_Largo, so that's another issue. Not only is the style of Gaslight gone, so appears to be the story.

    I guess the choice to move away from the source narrative wise is because the comic is actually rather short, all things considered? Which makes me assume some padding went on to make it longer? Basically the same issue there is with TKJ, where WB weren't content to just adapt the comic into a faithful 45 minute feature and had to tack on that Batgirl monstrosity to the first half to bloat the running time?
  • JohnHammond73JohnHammond73 Lancashire, UK
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    Yep, you are quite correct Brady. You have to almost forget about the book when watching this.
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
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    Yep, you are quite correct Brady. You have to almost forget about the book when watching this.
    Can it really be called an adaptation, then? ;)
  • JohnHammond73JohnHammond73 Lancashire, UK
    edited February 2018 Posts: 4,151
    Haha, Probably not. Very loosely based I guess. Same setting, the take on the Jack The Ripper story and a few characters.

    I agree with everything you say, a shame that they went so far from it but, as a movie, it’s good.

    I do believe the beginning there was a statement saying “Based on characters from...”
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    Harry Dresden - Dog men
    Hard case crime - Peepland
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