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  • WillyGaloreWillyGalore
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    Creasy47 wrote:
    @WillyGalore, I think he IS Tom Daley.

    That video screams "I hate homosexuals, but I am, in fact, a homosexual."

    If ever there was a man just aching to come out of the closet, it's him.
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
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    You all do realize that @Smoloko123"; and Scottie are one in the same, right? Might I suggest some IFMing as a proper course of action?
  • WillyGaloreWillyGalore
    Posts: 6,396
    0BradyM0Bondfanatic7 wrote:
    You all do realize that @Smoloko123"; and Scottie are one in the same, right? Might I suggest some IFMing as a proper course of action?

    Yes of course we know. We're having a little fun at his expense ;-)
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
    Posts: 40,968
    0BradyM0Bondfanatic7 wrote:
    You all do realize that @Smoloko123"; and Scottie are one in the same, right? Might I suggest some IFMing as a proper course of action?

    I couldn't let such a rotten, embarrassing video go to waste without tearing it a new one. Apologies.
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
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    You all sure seem to be quite comfortable with your own hypocracy.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    What? I didn't know for a fact that he's Scottie. He's posted a few times - not the way Scottie did - and we've seen trolls work together before, so who knows if it's really him. This place is constantly swarmed with trolls, spambots, etc., eventually we all confront them to some degree without thinking about it. We aren't all perfect. Look at everyone who replied, we were just having a bit of fun. It's not a thread that's going to get locked down, it'll carry on and all will be right with the world.
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
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    I understand poking a little fun at the gun, that's fine, but if you are directly replying to him in the comments when he is clearly trying to get a rise out of you, it isn't helping anything, especially since we are the ones who are peddling IFM. The user has the same posting behaviors as you know who, and since the guy's channel has about two followers max on a good day, who else could it be that posted the video but him? Doesn't seem like such a big leap in logic to me. I don't mean to come on strong with this, but now that we know he is one and the same, IFM should be the only course of action, and no more fun play.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    Well, I didn't investigate it. I'll be on my way. IFM, everyone.
  • MurdockMurdock The minus world
    edited December 2013 Posts: 16,351
    Smoloko123 wrote:
    The problem wasn't Pierce Brosnan during his tenure as 007. The problem was and still is Barbara Brocolli and the strangehold she has over the franchise. She, like her father did, uses cheap gimmicks,constant action and fairy-tale like plots to capture the hearts of casual movie goers. James Bond is a gun-for-hire, a man with a job to kill people the government deems undesirable. Thats all he is, and in reality, James Bond wouldn't be somebody to exactly look up to. He would most likely be killing people that posed a threat to the reputations of high-level political and financial figures...not somebody who is always on the run chasing down a villain that is threatening to blow up the world , again and again and again and again....Casino Royale was a breath of fresh air because it offered more realism than previous films, and showed how Bond could be a violent,dark and lonely figure with a stressful job. Also I want to add the only reason CR was made more seriously is because DAD looked like a joke compared to the newly released Bourne Series at the time, so the Brocolli's knew that they couldn't pump out another watered down action flick with Bond doing the same routine gimmicks, so they had to step up their game in 2006 and they released a quality film. Competition is a good thing, and I'm thankful for the Bourne Series, because if it hadn't been created, then most likely CR 2006 would have been just another routine childs-play bond movie dedicated to the casual audiences yet again, as Skyfall was...

    You want proof that Barbara Brocolli is too controlling and doesn't want to make Bond more serious and realistic. Just read this interview with Michael Apted from about a year ago.

    "Although his action experience was limited and he has admitted in the past that he relied particularly heavily on the advice and guidance of his second unit director and stunt coordinator, Apted did have something specific to offer the Bond franchise. Despite his fresh approach he felt constrained by the traditions and realms of 007, explaining, "I'd suggest something grittier and they'd say, 'Bond wouldn't do that.' 'Well, why not?' 'He wouldn't.' They'd done 19 so I figured they knew better than I. But it does change and that's what's allowed it be as successful as it is".

    http://www.mi6-hq.com/sections/articles/bond_23_apted_on_bond.php3

    There you go, Pierce Brosnan wasn't the problem. Pierce had the looks,the acting ability and everything els to make a awesome,smooth,slick,manipulating,sneaky and conniving Bond. If he would have been used correctly, he could have been the best. Let's face it, Brosnan doesn't have the physical build to be a blunt/action type figure, but he is well capable of acting sneaky,stealthily and would have been a very unique Bond if directed right and provided with the rightly mold scripts.

    Director Michael Apted wanted to make Bond more serious, and he wasn't allowed as that article clearly states. If Apted would have gotten his way with TWINE, then we probably wouldn't have had to sit through a lousy pipeline scene with Bond sitting on a traveling bomb with D.Richards or the corny scenes of Bond fixing his tie while under-water, or scenes of him running away from flying razor-bladed helicopters...need I say more ?

    Conclusion - With the release of Skyfall and its apparent route to take Bond back in the child-like fantasy adventure scenarios, I have no hope or desire to even see the next film. Ian Fleming's Bond has been raped and shi* on by Barabara Broccoli and EON productions. With the constant marketing campaigns and advertisements, big-budget action scenes/constant 3d effects ...(the scene with Bond fighting the comodo dragon might have been the stupidest scene of that entire movie) and the politically correrct nature the franchise has taken, such as Naomi Harris playing Miss MoneyPenny, (A PURE POLITICALLY CORRECT MOVE) and the reports of her becoming a more action oriented figure in Bond 24 only has me shaking my head.

    TL;DR Typical Scottie Spencer post.
  • WalecsWalecs On Her Majesty's Secret Service
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    But he's right, you know. The problem was not Brosnan, it was, and still is Barbara Broccoli.
  • RC7RC7
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    Walecs wrote:
    But he's right, you know. The problem was not Brosnan, it was, and still is Barbara Broccoli.

    Is this the same Barbara Broccoli who took, arguably, the riskiest decision in the history of the franchise, and saw it pay off handsomely?
  • WillyGaloreWillyGalore
    Posts: 6,396
    RC7 wrote:
    Walecs wrote:
    But he's right, you know. The problem was not Brosnan, it was, and still is Barbara Broccoli.

    Is this the same Barbara Broccoli who took, arguably, the riskiest decision in the history of the franchise, and saw it pay off handsomely?

    Well said.

    What is it with people sharpening their knives for BB. Even if you dislike the current direction Bond is heading, why focus all that anger/hatred at BB? Why does MGW not get the same amount of flack?
  • thelivingroyalethelivingroyale
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    I doubt Scottie has ever read Fleming. Bond has ALWAYS been fantasy, even in the books and even in the more "realistic" films.
  • Samuel001Samuel001 Moderator
    edited February 2014 Posts: 13,355
    WillyGalore wrote:
    RC7 wrote:
    Walecs wrote:
    But he's right, you know. The problem was not Brosnan, it was, and still is Barbara Broccoli.

    Is this the same Barbara Broccoli who took, arguably, the riskiest decision in the history of the franchise, and saw it pay off handsomely?

    Well said.

    What is it with people sharpening their knives for BB. Even if you dislike the current direction Bond is heading, why focus all that anger/hatred at BB? Why does MGW not get the same amount of flack?

    She's a women. I think it's as simple as that. They most likely think "never send a women to do a man's job". If so, that is a real shame.
  • MurdockMurdock The minus world
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    In the case of Scottie, he thinks Barbara has a feminist agenda and wants to destroy the Bond franchise by making it politically correct. His so called "evidence" is because of the casting of Naomi Harris as Moneypenny and Jeffery Wright as Felix. To which I say, he's an idiot.
  • WillyGaloreWillyGalore
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    Murdock wrote:
    In the case of Scottie, he thinks Barbara has a feminist agenda and wants to destroy the Bond franchise by making it politically correct. His so called "evidence" is because of the casting of Naomi Harris as Moneypenny and Jeffery Wright as Felix. To which I say, he's an idiot.

    Unfortunately, it's not just Scottie. If you've ever browsed on DCINB, pretty much most of them seem to "blame" Barbara. It comes across quite strongly as having extreme sexist and bigoted views, which is a shame.
  • MurdockMurdock The minus world
    Posts: 16,351
    WillyGalore wrote:
    Murdock wrote:
    In the case of Scottie, he thinks Barbara has a feminist agenda and wants to destroy the Bond franchise by making it politically correct. His so called "evidence" is because of the casting of Naomi Harris as Moneypenny and Jeffery Wright as Felix. To which I say, he's an idiot.

    Unfortunately, it's not just Scottie. If you've ever browsed on DCINB, pretty much most of them seem to "blame" Barbara. It comes across quite strongly as having extreme sexist and bigoted views, which is a shame.

    Oh I'm sure there are others who share his "views" but he can say what he want's too. In the end him and those people at DCINB are close minded fools.
  • WillyGaloreWillyGalore
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    Murdock wrote:
    WillyGalore wrote:
    Murdock wrote:
    In the case of Scottie, he thinks Barbara has a feminist agenda and wants to destroy the Bond franchise by making it politically correct. His so called "evidence" is because of the casting of Naomi Harris as Moneypenny and Jeffery Wright as Felix. To which I say, he's an idiot.

    Unfortunately, it's not just Scottie. If you've ever browsed on DCINB, pretty much most of them seem to "blame" Barbara. It comes across quite strongly as having extreme sexist and bigoted views, which is a shame.

    Oh I'm sure there are others who share his "views" but he can say what he want's too. In the end him and those people at DCINB are close minded fools.

    They are petulant in the extreme and represent the very worst of internet fandom.
  • Matt_HelmMatt_Helm
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    RC7 wrote:
    Walecs wrote:
    But he's right, you know. The problem was not Brosnan, it was, and still is Barbara Broccoli.

    Is this the same Barbara Broccoli who took, arguably, the riskiest decision in the history of the franchise, and saw it pay off handsomely?


    You mean the risky desicion to follow two already very successfully tested trends (reboot and gritty) and the same time?
  • WillyGaloreWillyGalore
    Posts: 6,396
    Matt_Helm wrote:
    RC7 wrote:
    Walecs wrote:
    But he's right, you know. The problem was not Brosnan, it was, and still is Barbara Broccoli.

    Is this the same Barbara Broccoli who took, arguably, the riskiest decision in the history of the franchise, and saw it pay off handsomely?


    You mean the risky desicion to follow two already very successfully tested trends (reboot and gritty) and the same time?

    I think that's called the $2 Billion and multiple award winning risky decision.
  • RC7RC7
    Posts: 10,512
    Matt_Helm wrote:
    RC7 wrote:
    Walecs wrote:
    But he's right, you know. The problem was not Brosnan, it was, and still is Barbara Broccoli.

    Is this the same Barbara Broccoli who took, arguably, the riskiest decision in the history of the franchise, and saw it pay off handsomely?


    You mean the risky desicion to follow two already very successfully tested trends (reboot and gritty) and the same time?

    No, I mean casting a man who was 5' 10'', blonde and with what one might term, 'unconventional' looks.
  • Matt_HelmMatt_Helm
    Posts: 908
    RC7 wrote:
    Matt_Helm wrote:
    RC7 wrote:
    Walecs wrote:
    But he's right, you know. The problem was not Brosnan, it was, and still is Barbara Broccoli.

    Is this the same Barbara Broccoli who took, arguably, the riskiest decision in the history of the franchise, and saw it pay off handsomely?


    You mean the risky desicion to follow two already very successfully tested trends (reboot and gritty) and the same time?

    No, I mean casting a man who was 5' 10'', blonde and with what one might term, 'unconventional' looks.

    In this case you are absolutely correct. No doubt about it!!

  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
    Posts: 28,694
    RC7 wrote:
    Matt_Helm wrote:
    RC7 wrote:
    Walecs wrote:
    But he's right, you know. The problem was not Brosnan, it was, and still is Barbara Broccoli.

    Is this the same Barbara Broccoli who took, arguably, the riskiest decision in the history of the franchise, and saw it pay off handsomely?


    You mean the risky desicion to follow two already very successfully tested trends (reboot and gritty) and the same time?

    No, I mean casting a man who was 5' 10'', blonde and with what one might term, 'unconventional' looks.

    I'd say it was riskier to re-cast Bond post Connery after he had been in the role for years and years to massive success.
  • RC7RC7
    Posts: 10,512
    0BradyM0Bondfanatic7 wrote:
    RC7 wrote:
    Matt_Helm wrote:
    RC7 wrote:
    Walecs wrote:
    But he's right, you know. The problem was not Brosnan, it was, and still is Barbara Broccoli.

    Is this the same Barbara Broccoli who took, arguably, the riskiest decision in the history of the franchise, and saw it pay off handsomely?


    You mean the risky desicion to follow two already very successfully tested trends (reboot and gritty) and the same time?

    No, I mean casting a man who was 5' 10'', blonde and with what one might term, 'unconventional' looks.

    I'd say it was riskier to re-cast Bond post Connery after he had been in the role for years and years to massive success.

    But they had to re-cast. Connery walked. It's easy to take a so called risk when one is forced to, but when things are chugging along nicely and you make a decision such as Babs did with Daniel - that is true risk.
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
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    Walecs wrote:
    But he's right, you know. The problem was not Brosnan, it was, and still is Barbara Broccoli.

    I don't think Barbara Broccoli deserves all of these turds being hurled at her. Firstly, I think she and Michael Wilson are a team. They won't act unless from consensus. Also, whatever people hold against them, one cannot argue that the franchise, despite its age, is still in excellent shape, presumably even better than it was in the 70s and 80s. So they must be doing something right.

    It's become 'in vogue' over the years to bash Barbara Broccoli. I for one won't partake in that. The very people who gave me CR, cannot be anything but geniuses in their own right. Go on blaming Barbara Broccoli for all the sins of the world; meanwhile I'm going to sit down with a Craig Bond film and have a bloody good time.
  • WillyGaloreWillyGalore
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    DarthDimi wrote:
    Walecs wrote:
    But he's right, you know. The problem was not Brosnan, it was, and still is Barbara Broccoli.

    I don't think Barbara Broccoli deserves all of these turds being hurled at her. Firstly, I think she and Michael Wilson are a team. They won't act unless from consensus. Also, whatever people hold against them, one cannot argue that the franchise, despite its age, is still in excellent shape, presumably even better than it was in the 70s and 80s. So they must be doing something right.

    It's become 'in vogue' over the years to bash Barbara Broccoli. I for one won't partake in that. The very people who gave me CR, cannot be anything but geniuses in their own right. Go on blaming Barbara Broccoli for all the sins of the world; meanwhile I'm going to sit down with a Craig Bond film and have a bloody good time.

    Well said.
  • SandySandy Somewhere in Europe
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    DarthDimi wrote:
    Walecs wrote:
    But he's right, you know. The problem was not Brosnan, it was, and still is Barbara Broccoli.

    I don't think Barbara Broccoli deserves all of these turds being hurled at her. Firstly, I think she and Michael Wilson are a team. They won't act unless from consensus. Also, whatever people hold against them, one cannot argue that the franchise, despite its age, is still in excellent shape, presumably even better than it was in the 70s and 80s. So they must be doing something right.

    It's become 'in vogue' over the years to bash Barbara Broccoli. I for one won't partake in that. The very people who gave me CR, cannot be anything but geniuses in their own right. Go on blaming Barbara Broccoli for all the sins of the world; meanwhile I'm going to sit down with a Craig Bond film and have a bloody good time.

    You said it all! I'm sick and tired of the blame-Babs brigade. I'm only blaming her for doing an amazing job with the franchise along with MGW.
  • thelivingroyalethelivingroyale
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    I don't get the hate for the current producers either. They've taken risks Cubby never would and they've made some great successful films.

    Goldeneye, The World Is Not Enough, Casino Royale and Skyfall are all in my top 10. Tomorrow Never Dies and Quantum Of Solace aren't terrible either.

    In fact I think the only bad film they've made is Die Another Day, and even that made lots of money, so it wasn't a complete failure from the producers standpoint. And 6/7 isn't a bad track record at all.
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
    edited February 2014 Posts: 24,179
    It's funny how some people take a dump on, say, MR or DAF, yet never point an accusing finger towards Cubby. I'm not saying they should, I merely wonder why his daughter needs to take so much heat then.
  • MrcogginsMrcoggins Following in the footsteps of Quentin Quigley.
    Posts: 3,144
    DarthDimi wrote:
    Walecs wrote:
    But he's right, you know. The problem was not Brosnan, it was, and still is Barbara Broccoli.

    I don't think Barbara Broccoli deserves all of these turds being hurled at her. Firstly, I think she and Michael Wilson are a team. They won't act unless from consensus. Also, whatever people hold against them, one cannot argue that the franchise, despite its age, is still in excellent shape, presumably even better than it was in the 70s and 80s. So they must be doing something right.

    It's become 'in vogue' over the years to bash Barbara Broccoli. I for one won't partake in that. The very people who gave me CR, cannot be anything but geniuses in their own right. Go on blaming Barbara Broccoli for all the sins of the world; meanwhile I'm going to sit down with a Craig Bond film and have a bloody good time.

    Could not agree more
    Barbara and MGW have picked the ball up and are running with it and doing a dam good job IMO.It takes Balls to do what they have done with the reboot long may it continue .
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