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• SirHenryLeeChaChing

  July 2012 Posts: 3,494

  Daniel Craig should absolutely be on the above list. He's better than many of those listed above.
• JWESTBROOK

  July 2012 Posts: 5,745

  Based purely on acting chops:
  
  1. Daniel Craig
  2. Judi Dench
  3. Sean Connery
  4. Sean Bean
  5. Jesper Christenson
  6. Famke Janssen
  7. Gert Frobe
  8. Claudine Auger
  9. Bernard Lee
  10. Desmond Llewelyn
  11. Javier Bardem
  12. Jeffrey Wright
  13. Christopher Lee
  14. Giancarlo Giannini
  15. Eva Green
  
• thelivingroyale

  July 2012 edited July 2012 Posts: 12,837

  @JWESTBROOK No Dalton?
  
  1- Timothy Dalton
  2- Robert Davi
  3- Robert Carlyle
  4- Sean Bean
  5- Sean Connery
  6- Christopher Lee
  7- Javier Bardem
  8- Christopher Walken
  9- Pierce Brosnan
  10- Christopher Walken
  11- Robbie Coltrane
  12- Steve Berkoff
  13- Judi Dench
  14- Sophie Marcaue
  15- Daniel Craig
• 00Beast

  July 2012 Posts: 4,762

  In no particular order except for the first two:
  
  -Pierce Brosnan (James Bond 007, the best of the six)
  -Roger Moore (James Bond 007, the best until Brosnan came along)
  -Christopher Walken (Max Zorin)
  -Sean Bean (Alec Trevelyan)
  -Louis Jordan (Kamal Khan)
  -Christopher Lee (Francisco Scaramanga)
  -Judi Dench (M)
  -Desmond Llewlyn (Major Boothroyd "Q")
  -Joseph Wiseman (Dr. Julius No)
  -Timothy Dalton (James Bond 007, third best after Pierce and Roger)
  -Robert Shaw (Donald "Red" Grant)
  -Robert Davi (Franz Sanchez)
  -Pedro Armendariz (Kerim Bey)
  -Sean Connery (James Bond 007, the one who began the 007 sensation)
  -Giancarlo Giannini (Rene Mathis)
• SirHenryLeeChaChing

  July 2012 edited July 2012 Posts: 3,494

  First, the only 4 Bonds worthy of consideration because they most embodied the role and Fleming's vision-
  
  
  1. Sean Connery
  2. Timothy Dalton
  3. Daniel Craig
  4. Roger Moore
  
  Next up, some very difficult choices
  
  5. Joseph Wiseman
  6. Lotte Lenya
  7. Robert Shaw
  8. Gert Frobe
  9. Luciana Paluzzi
  10. Diana Rigg
  11. Christopher Lee
  12. Steven Berkoff
  13. Christopher Walken
  14. Benicio DelToro
  15. Sean Bean
  
  
  HM- Adolfo Celi, Curt Jurgens, Robert Davi, Giancarlo Giannini, Eva Green
  
• thelivingroyale

  July 2012 edited July 2012 Posts: 12,837

  SirHenryLeeChaChing wrote:

  First, the only 4 Bonds worthy of consideration because they most embodied the role
  and Fleming's vision-
  
  
  1. Sean Connery
  2. Timothy Dalton
  3. Daniel Craig
  4. Roger Moore

  
  Why do you include Moore but not Brosnan? I could understand if you only liked the more serious Bonds but you included Moore, so why not Brosnan?
  
  Plus, and no offence to Moore, I love his Bond and he seems like a great guy, Brosnan is a better actor. He's been nominated for a golden globe, and he won an award for his part in Ghost Writer.
• SirHenryLeeChaChing

  July 2012 edited July 2012 Posts: 3,494

  Obviously because Moore is (a) a better actor, and (b) made the role his. No one can top Sir Roger for smug smarminess as Bond.
  
  My question is, why does the Brosnan crowd continually diss Craig or anyone else they deem unfriendly to Brosnan? They do exactly what they say the Craig crowd does.
• thelivingroyale

  July 2012 edited July 2012 Posts: 12,837

  SirHenryLeeChaChing wrote:

  Obviously because Moore is (a) a better actor, and (b) made the role his. No one can top Sir Roger for smug smarminess as Bond.
  
  My question is, why does the Brosnan crowd continually diss Craig or anyone else they deem unfriendly to Brosnan? They do exactly what they say the Craig crowd does.

  
  Read my other post for why I think Brosnan is a better actor. I'm not dissing Craig, I never mentioned him, I like him just like all the other Bonds. And I wasn't dissing Moore either, I love his Bond. I was just asking why you didn't include Brosnan, because I think he also made the role his own.
• OHMSS69

  July 2012 Posts: 2,341

  I will put my two cents in thats about what my opinion is worth these days.
  But why may I ask fifteen? why not 10, 25, or 3 ?
  
  1.Timothy Dalton
  2.Christopher Walken
  3. Louis Jourdan
  4. Diana Rigg
  5. Ilse Steppat
  6. Lotte Lenya
  7. Robert Shaw
  8. Joseph Wiseman
  9. Pedro Armendariz, SR
  10, Christopher Lee
  11. Topol
  12. Judi Dench
  13. Sean Connery
  14. Eva Green
  14. Jarvier Bardem
• RogueAgent

  July 2012 Posts: 12,526

  Sean Connery
  George Lazenby
  Roger Moore
  Timothy Dalton
  Pierce Brosnan
  Daniel Craig
  Bernard Lee
  Judi Dench
  Desmond Llewelyn
  Christopher Lee
  Christopher Walken
  Julian Glover
  Eva Green
  Javier Bardem
  Robert Shaw
  
  Just to say this is not a list in order of? It is just my 15 Actor/Actress
• SirHenryLeeChaChing

  July 2012 Posts: 3,494

  thelivingroyale wrote:

  SirHenryLeeChaChing wrote:

  Obviously because Moore is (a) a better actor, and (b) made the role his. No one can top Sir Roger for smug smarminess as Bond.
  
  My question is, why does the Brosnan crowd continually diss Craig or anyone else they deem unfriendly to Brosnan? They do exactly what they say the Craig crowd does.

  
  Read my other post for why I think Brosnan is a better actor. I'm not dissing Craig, I never mentioned him, I like him just like all the other Bonds. And I wasn't dissing Moore either, I love his Bond. I was just asking why you didn't include Brosnan, because I think he also made the role his own.

  
  That's where we mainly disagree. Brosnan is "tick the box" Bond. "Greatest hits" Bond. In my opinion, he added nothing new to the role. I like Brosnan as Bond and have always said he was the right choice at the time. I love his enthusiasm for the role and that it was his dream to play Bond. I respect his contributions, but he went the Moore route and couldn't carry it off in the same lovable way. I prefer Craig as Bond and as an actor and think his overall range, skill set, and choice of characters is better.
  
  
• DoubleOhhSeven

  July 2012 edited July 2012 Posts: 1,778

  This list based just on acting ability and range. In no particular order.
  
  1)Sean Connery
  2)Daniel Craig (Even if you hate he's probably the most versitile actor to play Bond and definatly deserves to be on the list)
  3)Timothy Dalton
  4)Robert Shaw
  5)Bernard Lee
  6)Diana Rigg
  7)Benecio Del Torro
  8)Christopher Walken
  9)Robert Caryle
  10)Sophie Marceu
  11)Eva Green
  12)Judi Dench
  13)Giancarlo Giannini
  14)Jeffrey Wright
  15)Sean Bean
  
  It was really tough to it down to only 15. Gabriel Fazzetti was on my list but I took him off as I haven't seen him in enough. Honorable mention also goes to Julian Glover, Louise Jordan, Robert Davi, Yapphet Kotto, Christopher Lee, Mads Millkensen, and Joseph Wise.
• Kerim Istanbul Not Constantinople

  July 2012 edited July 2012 Posts: 2,629

  Ooh, this is a good idea HenryJones Victor.
  
  15 isn't enough. I'll go 20.
  
  Honestly, I could list at least 10 more.
  
  1. Sean Connery
  2. Judi Dench
  3. Timothy Dalton
  4. Bernard Lee
  5. Christopher Lee
  6. Diana Rigg
  7. Steven Berkoff
  8. Christopher Walken
  9. Robert Shaw
  10. Benico Del Toro
  11. Robert Davi
  12. Telly Savalas
  13. Pedro Armedariz
  14. Daniel Craig
  15. Desmond Llewelyn
  16. Jayne Seymour
  17. Louis Jordan
  18. Giancarlo Gianni
  19. Yaphet Kotto
  20. Roger Moore
• 0BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"

  July 2012 Posts: 28,694

  Just to be sure, are we going on acting ability, or the 15 actors we like best?
• Kerim Istanbul Not Constantinople

  July 2012 Posts: 2,629

  0BradyM0Bondfanatic7 wrote:

  Just to be sure, are we going on acting ability, or the 15 actors we like best?

  
  I went with both.
• HASEROT has returned like the tedious inevitability of an unloved season---

  July 2012 edited July 2012 Posts: 4,399

  in no particular order... based on my opinion of their acting talents in and out of the Bond franchise..
  
  1. Sean Connery
  2. Timothy Dalton
  3. Daniel Craig
  4. Robert Shaw
  5. Donald Pleasence
  6. Cristopher Lee
  7. Telly Savalas
  8. Diana Rigg
  9. Yaphet Kotto
  10. Jane Seymour
  11. Christopher Walken
  12. Benicio Del Toro
  13. Sean Bean
  14. Julian Glover
  15. Judi Dench
  16. Javier Bardem
  17. Ralph Fiennes
  18. Robert Carlyle
  19. Robert Davi
  20. Johnathan Pryce
  
  i had to go to 20, i had some personal favorites that i wanted to include :)
• BAIN123

  July 2012 Posts: 11,189

  SirHenryLeeChaChing wrote:

  thelivingroyale wrote:

  SirHenryLeeChaChing wrote:

  Obviously because Moore is (a) a better actor, and (b) made the role his. No one can top Sir Roger for smug smarminess as Bond.
  
  My question is, why does the Brosnan crowd continually diss Craig or anyone else they deem unfriendly to Brosnan? They do exactly what they say the Craig crowd does.

  
  Read my other post for why I think Brosnan is a better actor. I'm not dissing Craig, I never mentioned him, I like him just like all the other Bonds. And I wasn't dissing Moore either, I love his Bond. I was just asking why you didn't include Brosnan, because I think he also made the role his own.

  
  That's where we mainly disagree. Brosnan is "tick the box" Bond. "Greatest hits" Bond. In my opinion, he added nothing new to the role. I like Brosnan as Bond and have always said he was the right choice at the time. I love his enthusiasm for the role and that it was his dream to play Bond. I respect his contributions, but he went the Moore route and couldn't carry it off in the same lovable way. I prefer Craig as Bond and as an actor and think his overall range, skill set, and choice of characters is better.
  

  
  It's really strange. I suppose I understand what people mean when they say he "never made the role his own" but there were several times in his films when I could point and say "that's James Bond". While Brosnan did have his flaws I'm not sure I agree with that statement.
• TheWizardOfIce 'One of the Internet's more toxic individuals'

  July 2012 Posts: 9,117

  DoubleOhhSeven wrote:

  Louise Jordan

  
  Youre bang on there. For me her work in Blue Peter was seminal, even surpassing the legendary Noakes and Purves.
  
  In no particular order and in terms of acting chops only (and irrelevant of their contribution to Bond -laughable how many people have Sir Rog down, who I love to bits but theres no way you can argue hes a great actor).
  
  1. Sean Connery
  2. Robert Shaw
  3. Christopher Lee
  4. Michael Lonsdale
  5. Steven Berkoff
  6. Christopher Walken
  7. Timothy Dalton
  8. Benicio del Toro
  9. Judi Dench
  10. Sean Bean
  11. Jonathon Pryce
  12. Robert Carlyle
  13. Sophie Marceau
  14. Daniel Craig
  15. Javier Bardem
  
  Honourable mentions to Joseph Wiseman, Lotte Lenya, Pedro Armendariz, Gert Frobe, Donald Pleasance, Telly Savalas, Yaphet Kotto, Curt Jurgens, Julian Glover, Louis Jourdan, Jerome Krabbe, Joe Don Baker, John Rhys Davies, Art Malik, Tcheky Karyo, Eva Green, Giancarlo Giannini, Mathieu Amalric.
  
  Maybe Rog is a better actor than I give him credit for. Look at the run of actors he had as villains (4 in my top 10 and 4 others who narrowly missed out) and he held his own. Hes certainly a national treasure if not the greatest actor we've ever had.
• BAIN123

  July 2012 edited July 2012 Posts: 11,189

  TheWizardOfIce wrote:

  DoubleOhhSeven wrote:

  Louise Jordan

  
  Youre bang on there. For me her work in Blue Peter was seminal, even surpassing the legendary Noakes and Purves.
  
  In no particular order and in terms of acting chops only (and irrelevant of their contribution to Bond -laughable how many people have Sir Rog down, who I love to bits but theres no way you can argue hes a great actor).
  
  1. Sean Connery
  2. Robert Shaw
  3. Christopher Lee
  4. Michael Lonsdale
  5. Steven Berkoff
  6. Christopher Walken
  7. Timothy Dalton
  8. Benicio del Toro
  9. Judi Dench
  10. Sean Bean
  11. Jonathon Pryce
  12. Robert Carlyle
  13. Sophie Marceau
  14. Daniel Craig
  15. Javier Bardem
  
  Honourable mentions to Joseph Wiseman, Lotte Lenya, Pedro Armendariz, Gert Frobe, Donald Pleasance, Telly Savalas, Yaphet Kotto, Curt Jurgens, Julian Glover, Louis Jourdan, Jerome Krabbe, Joe Don Baker, John Rhys Davies, Art Malik, Tcheky Karyo, Eva Green, Giancarlo Giannini, Mathieu Amalric.
  
  Maybe Rog is a better actor than I give him credit for. Look at the run of actors he had as villains (4 in my top 10 and 4 others who narrowly missed out) and he held his own. Hes certainly a national treasure if not the greatest actor we've ever had.

  
  Why is Daniel Craig so low? I'd put him above Timothy Dalton
  
  And...come to think of it, why is Judi Dench below Timothy. She has better comic timing than he does.
• HASEROT has returned like the tedious inevitability of an unloved season---

  July 2012 Posts: 4,399

  while I personally feel Brosnan is probably the weakest Bond, the fault wasn't entirely his.. he was getting handed some pretty bad fluff in terms of script and leading ladies (sans Goldeneye), and while he seemed to gradually get more relaxed and comfortable in the role, the films themselves got worse - i can't point to any one of his films and say "he is the reason why this movie is bad", it's usually everything else going on around him...
  
  with that said though, i do feel like he really brought nothing new to the role.. some people say he brought a cocksure sense of overconfidence - but, that i feel has been established in the character since Connery, and has been a part of what makes Bond "Bond" since Fleming first wrote the character.. it's nothing new, and every actor has portrayed that aspect of Bond's personality... Brosnan never really could break out of Goldeneye's shadow, and that really says a lot considering the role was originally written for Dalton.
  
  Brosnan is an okay actor, but not great IMO... some of his movies outside of Bond (before and after) i think are better than his 3 Bond films past Goldeneye.
• HASEROT has returned like the tedious inevitability of an unloved season---

  July 2012 Posts: 4,399

  BAIN123 wrote:

  Why is Daniel Craig so low? I'd put him above Timothy Dalton

  
  did u forget where he posted.... "in no particular order"
  
• BAIN123

  July 2012 edited July 2012 Posts: 11,189

  HASEROT wrote:

  BAIN123 wrote:

  Why is Daniel Craig so low? I'd put him above Timothy Dalton

  
  did u forget where he posted.... "in no particular order"

  
  D'oh. My mistake. Didn't read the first bit and jumped the gun.
  
  While I'm not sure Brosnan brought anything "new" to the role I do think he brought his own "boyish charm" which I've always enjoyed.
  
  Plus at that point (1995) I'm not convinced people wanted anything new. All the "successful" Bond's have mirrored the current attitudes from society. Brosnan was the cheesey "greatest hits" period.
• TheWizardOfIce 'One of the Internet's more toxic individuals'

  July 2012 edited July 2012 Posts: 9,117

  HASEROT wrote:

  BAIN123 wrote:

  Why is Daniel Craig so low? I'd put him above Timothy Dalton

  
  did u forget where he posted.... "in no particular order"

  
  Well actually there is a particular order when I look at it - chronological - but your point remains valid haserot.
  
  
• actonsteve

  July 2012 Posts: 1,492

  Acting chops? I will bite - but this is for other works as well
  
  1 Judi Dench
  2 Robert Shaw
  3 Christopher Lee
  4. Tim Dalton
  5. Daniel Craig
  6. Sean Connery
  7 Diana Rigg
  8 Julian Glover
  9 Christopher Walken
  10 Carole Bouquet
  11 Honor Blackman
  12 Joseph Wiseman
  13 Sophie Marceau
  14. Michael Lonsdale
  16 Curt Jurgens
  
  Remember this is also for work outside the Bond canon.
• BAIN123

  July 2012 Posts: 11,189

  actonsteve wrote:

  Acting chops? I will bite - but this is for other works as well
  
  1 Judi Dench

  
  Judi can't be topped by anybody :D
  
  
• TheWizardOfIce 'One of the Internet's more toxic individuals'

  July 2012 Posts: 9,117

  actonsteve wrote:

  Acting chops? I will bite - but this is for other works as well
  
  11 Honor Blackman
  
  Remember this is also for work outside the Bond canon.

  
  Really? Are we talking the Avengers here or feeble ITV sitcom The Upper Hand? Lets be honest if it wasnt for Pussy Galore she would not be a household name. Dont really think she can be ranked above Michael Lonsdale or Curt Jurgens for her body of work over a career.
• Volante

  July 2012 edited July 2012 Posts: 774

  In no order, based on acting ability (though I'm sure I've forgotten a few people):
  
  Sean Connery
  Timothy Dalton
  Daniel Craig
  Christopher Walken
  Bernard Lee
  Judi Dench
  Desmond Llewelyn
  Christopher Lee
  Pedro Armendariz
  Eva Green
  Javier Bardem
  John Rhys-Davies
  Donald Pleasence
  Diana Rigg
  Mads Mikkelsen
  
  EDIT: Forgot Ralph Fiennes, @DaltonCraig007's later post reminded me. And I watched Schindler's List just last week.
• HASEROT has returned like the tedious inevitability of an unloved season---

  July 2012 Posts: 4,399

  @Volante
  
  how did I forget about Rhys-Davies???..... i am ashamed of myself :(
• Volante

  July 2012 Posts: 774

  HASEROT wrote:

  @Volante
  
  how did I forget about Rhys-Davies???..... i am ashamed of myself :(

  
  I almost did as well, had to cut someone to put him in at the last minute. Sorry, Joseph Wiseman.
• 4EverBonded the Ballrooms of Mars

  July 2012 edited July 2012 Posts: 12,480

  Okay: (Bond in order of preference, others not in any particular order - but all based on acting chops and fitting the role) And do remember I am a fan of each Bond, escept GL.
  
  Daniel Craig
  Timothy Dalton
  Pierce Brosnan
  Roger Moore
  Sean Connery
  
  Judi Dench
  Sean Bean
  Christopher Lee
  Eva Green
  Isabella Scorupco (spelling that wrong, I am sure - sorry!)
  Robert Carlyle (love him as an actor!)
  Robbie Coltrane
  Robert Shaw
  Christopher Walken
  
  well that's 16 so far ... I'd add Bardem but I haven't seen him yet so I really can't.