Timothy Dalton or Daniel Craig?

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  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
    edited April 2012 Posts: 24,183
    @blofeld702, can you please break your next posts down into complete sentences. Your first post is kind of hard to read. ;-) Thanks.
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    blofeld702 wrote:
    if the producers get there head out there asses and re-do ohmss, the book version of you only live twice and the start of man with the golden gun, these story would required to feel for bond just like the books

    Damn right!
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    There must be a lot of love for Daniel Craig among our members, because he's beating Timothy Dalton and Pierce Brosnan in the polls so far. I like Craig as 007, and think that he's the right choice for this era of Bond, but beating out Dalton and Brosnan? No way, no how.
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    In a worldwide poll, I think, he would easily beat Dalton.
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    Germanlady wrote:
    In a worldwide poll, I think, he would easily beat Dalton.

    Probably so, considering that he's the current Bond, everybody knows him now because of CR (especially) and QoS, and also, Dalton is one of the least known James Bond actors along with Lazenby.
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    Closer than the Brosnan v Craig poll, but Craig defo still wins out on account that he can humour as well when required and is tougher
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
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    CRAIG CRAIG CRAIG CRAIG CRAIG CRAIG CRAIG CRAIG CRAIG. Only beaten by the ace car, the Connery. ;)

    Out of curiosity how do rank the Bond actors? I think our rankings are pretty similar.

    1.) *Connery
    2.) Craig
    3.) Dalton
    4.) Brosnan
    5.) Lazenby
    6.) Moore

    *Sometimes referred to as Master, God, or King by his disciples.
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    dalton is better than craig. craig is not a good bond, he doesnt have the swagger when he walks hes too mechancial, and the director is not leting him be a womanizer, also james bond should not get beaten up all the time like craig did in casino royle.their only one bond and thats sean connery everybody else were actors who played bond
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    If ANYTHING, he has the swagger. There are vids with him just walking and they are pure eye candy...
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    Germanlady wrote:
    If ANYTHING, he has the swagger. There are vids with him just walking and they are pure eye candy...

    Exactly, as I've said before he has more of a "cool cat" quality.

    With Dalton it just seemed very...stuffy sometimes. Thats the impression I got after my latest viewing of TLD. Craig has (or at least has the potential to have) that twinkle about him.

    I always liked the exchange:

    "You know I think I'll call that a Vesper"

    "Why? Because of the bitter aftertaste?"

    "No...because once you've tasted it...that's all you want to drink"

    Just the way he says the last line (especially after all he went through at the Poker game) makes me smile. He's relaxed, funny and charming. Dalton seemed quite "on edge" even when he was trying to be relaxed.
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    Germanlady wrote:
    In a worldwide poll, I think, he would easily beat Dalton.

    absolutely. Even my dad doesn't like him and he's a huge Bond fan!
    I'm going with Craig over any Bond.
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    Germanlady wrote:
    In a worldwide poll, I think, he would easily beat Dalton.

    And Moore has beaten Connery in polls before, doesn't mean he's better (not bashing Moore btw, I thought he was a great Bond).
  • DaltonCraig007DaltonCraig007 They say, "Evil prevails when good men fail to act." What they ought to say is, "Evil prevails."
    edited April 2012 Posts: 15,718
    In a worldwide poll, Brosnan and Craig would be equal. Sorry, but the Brosnan detractors of this website are a very, very small minority.
  • Samuel001Samuel001 Moderator
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    In a worldwide poll, Brosnan and Craig would be equal. Sorry, but the Brosnan detractors of this website are a very, very small minority.

    They'd be very close indeed but I'd give Craig the edge. He's the current Bond after all. That would tip the odds in his favour.
  • DaltonCraig007DaltonCraig007 They say, "Evil prevails when good men fail to act." What they ought to say is, "Evil prevails."
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    Samuel001 wrote:
    In a worldwide poll, Brosnan and Craig would be equal. Sorry, but the Brosnan detractors of this website are a very, very small minority.

    They'd be very close indeed but I'd give Craig the edge. He's the current Bond after all. That would tip the odds in his favour.

    Probably, but he wouldn't win by a landslide like on this website. In reality Craig and Brosnan are evenly matched, and even if Craig has the edge, it's not by much.
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    I think, it could be a mistake to compare 06 with now. Back then, many were in favour with Brosnans Bond but since then, I often read, that DC's portrayal showed them, what might have been lacking in Brosnan - so in the end, a poll nowadays might turn out different.

    I have no way to know that for sure, but its my opinion anyway and not, because I favour DC myself, but by what I read through the years.
  • Samuel001Samuel001 Moderator
    edited April 2012 Posts: 13,355
    Samuel001 wrote:
    In a worldwide poll, Brosnan and Craig would be equal. Sorry, but the Brosnan detractors of this website are a very, very small minority.

    They'd be very close indeed but I'd give Craig the edge. He's the current Bond after all. That would tip the odds in his favour.

    Probably, but he wouldn't win by a landslide like on this website. In reality Craig and Brosnan are evenly matched, and even if Craig has the edge, it's not by much.

    It reminds me of a question of a TV Quiz here in the UK, called Pointless. The idea is to name the answer the least number of the 100 asked people said. Those asked had one minute to name as many as they can.

    The question was name an actor that's played Bond. The results were something like:

    Connery 92
    Moore 76
    Craig 58
    Brosnan 58
    Dalton 38
    Lazenby 30

    It was surprising to me, nearly a third remembered Lazenby and just over half could not name the current Bond.

    This was as of 2011, mind not that that makes any difference.
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    I voted for Dalton only because he had less votes. They're equally the best, IMO.
  • DaltonCraig007DaltonCraig007 They say, "Evil prevails when good men fail to act." What they ought to say is, "Evil prevails."
    edited April 2012 Posts: 15,718
    Germanlady wrote:
    I think, it could be a mistake to compare 06 with now. Back then, many were in favour with Brosnans Bond but since then, I often read, that DC's portrayal showed them, what might have been lacking in Brosnan - so in the end, a poll nowadays might turn out different.

    I have no way to know that for sure, but its my opinion anyway and not, because I favour DC myself, but by what I read through the years.

    We're not talking about who's better but who's popular. And fact is, Brosnan is as popular as Craig. This website, or any online Bond community is simply not a representation of reality. The Brosnan detractors here who feel they are strong because they are the majority here, are actually a very small majority in reality.
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    WVPoef wrote:
    Timothy Dalton wins but just.
    TD is second on my list with Craig almost tied but after Skyfall it might change.
    Germanlady wrote:
    I think, it could be a mistake to compare 06 with now. Back then, many were in favour with Brosnans Bond but since then, I often read, that DC's portrayal showed them, what might have been lacking in Brosnan - so in the end, a poll nowadays might turn out different.

    I have no way to know that for sure, but its my opinion anyway and not, because I favour DC myself, but by what I read through the years.

    We're not talking about who's better but who's popular. And fact is, Brosnan is as popular as Craig. This website, or any online Bond community is simply not a representation of reality. The Brosnan detractors here who feel they are strong because they are the majority here, are actually a very small majority in reality.

    what do you know about reality about both of them? have you ask EVERYONE on the planet about Craig and Brosnan? we never know what reality about both popularities.

    yes the Bond community is not a representation about DC or PB popularity, but the FACT that Bond community like Craig more than Brosnan is a bold statement/opinion that on those community many people like Craig, something that you can't ignore that my friend

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    Germanlady wrote:
    I think, it could be a mistake to compare 06 with now. Back then, many were in favour with Brosnans Bond but since then, I often read, that DC's portrayal showed them, what might have been lacking in Brosnan - so in the end, a poll nowadays might turn out different.

    I have no way to know that for sure, but its my opinion anyway and not, because I favour DC myself, but by what I read through the years.

    We're not talking about who's better but who's popular. And fact is, Brosnan is as popular as Craig. This website, or any online Bond community is simply not a representation of reality. The Brosnan detractors here who feel they are strong because they are the majority here, are actually a very small majority in reality.

    If you read my post right, this is exactly, what i wanted to point out. I tried to point out, why I think, DC is a lot more popular then Brosnan now. Again, by many posts I read over the years - he showed them, what they hadn't missed with Brosnan before but now- in comparison - felt missing and hence felt obliged to turn to Craig as the better Bond.
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    Germanlady wrote:
    Germanlady wrote:
    I think, it could be a mistake to compare 06 with now. Back then, many were in favour with Brosnans Bond but since then, I often read, that DC's portrayal showed them, what might have been lacking in Brosnan - so in the end, a poll nowadays might turn out different.

    I have no way to know that for sure, but its my opinion anyway and not, because I favour DC myself, but by what I read through the years.

    We're not talking about who's better but who's popular. And fact is, Brosnan is as popular as Craig. This website, or any online Bond community is simply not a representation of reality. The Brosnan detractors here who feel they are strong because they are the majority here, are actually a very small majority in reality.

    If you read my post right, this is exactly, what i wanted to point out. I tried to point out, why I think, DC is a lot more popular then Brosnan now. Again, by many posts I read over the years - he showed them, what they hadn't missed with Brosnan before but now- in comparison - felt missing and hence felt obliged to turn to Craig as the better Bond.

    Okay, but if they already liked Brosnan, they wouldn't suddenly stop. They might adjust their opinion a say that they prefer Craig but I don't think anyone who initially liked Brosnan would suddenly say he stunk just because they like Craig better. In my opnion, once you're a fan of someone, that's it. You're a fan for life, At least, that's how it is with me.

  • DaltonCraig007DaltonCraig007 They say, "Evil prevails when good men fail to act." What they ought to say is, "Evil prevails."
    edited April 2012 Posts: 15,718
    chuck007 wrote:

    what do you know about reality about both of them? have you ask EVERYONE on the planet about Craig and Brosnan? we never know what reality about both popularities.

    yes the Bond community is not a representation about DC or PB popularity, but the FACT that Bond community like Craig more than Brosnan is a bold statement/opinion that on those community many people like Craig, something that you can't ignore that my friend

    Who cares about what this community thinks of Daniel Craig ? It's not a very small recluse group of hardcore fans like this website that can give even the slightest indication of who is the most popular Bond or who is the better Bond. The fact that you don't seem to accept is that in the general audience, Brosnan is as popular as Craig.

    I do realize that Craig is more popular in this recluse website, but you also have to realize that outside the very small online Bond communities, Brosnan and Craig have the same popularity.
    Germanlady wrote:
    If you read my post right, this is exactly, what i wanted to point out. I tried to point out, why I think, DC is a lot more popular then Brosnan now. Again, by many posts I read over the years - he showed them, what they hadn't missed with Brosnan before but now- in comparison - felt missing and hence felt obliged to turn to Craig as the better Bond.

    Are you for real ? You are basing what 100+ millions of people who saw Brosnan's and Craig's outings think on what what a few dozens of people think on recluse online communities ? That's utterly ridiculous.

    You are ignoring the most basic fact of all : online Bond communities are completly insignificant. They are not in any way a representation of reality. The simple fact is that Craig and Brosnan have the same popularity in the general audience.
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    @DC - why do you not react to what is said? We have moved on from this community some time ago, but you never command on that or what is actually said. You just pick, what suits you and forget about the rest. This doesn't make a good conversation.

    @marymoss - you are right and I didn't mean, people stopped liking brosnan, but I feel, many stopped liking him better. That's all...
  • DaltonCraig007DaltonCraig007 They say, "Evil prevails when good men fail to act." What they ought to say is, "Evil prevails."
    edited April 2012 Posts: 15,718
    Germanlady wrote:
    If you read my post right, this is exactly, what i wanted to point out. I tried to point out, why I think, DC is a lot more popular then Brosnan now. Again, by many posts I read over the years - he showed them, what they hadn't missed with Brosnan before but now- in comparison - felt missing and hence felt obliged to turn to Craig as the better Bond.

    So you are basing your argument that Craig is more popular on what 0,0000001% of those who saw Craig's and Brosnan's outings think ? That's just ridiculous. I say again - nothing you read on online Bond communities is a representation of reality. No one cares what the majority of people think on CBN, MI6Community, Univex or other websites. They are not a representation of anything. The amount of people who post on Bond communities are an utterly insignifiant portion of those who saw the films.
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    Germanlady wrote:
    If you read my post right, this is exactly, what i wanted to point out. I tried to point out, why I think, DC is a lot more popular then Brosnan now. Again, by many posts I read over the years - he showed them, what they hadn't missed with Brosnan before but now- in comparison - felt missing and hence felt obliged to turn to Craig as the better Bond.

    So you are basing your argument that Craig is more popular on what 0,0000001% of those who saw Craig's and Brosnan's outings think ?

    I base it on my own opinion and of everything else, I saw and read and noticed as being an opinion over the years. Not to forget polls etc...

    What do YOU base YOUR opinion upon?
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    But if it makes you happy, Brosnan is the best on every level. See - I said it. :D

    This just doesn't go nowhere - so better stop, while its still friendly.. ;)
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    Who cares about what this community thinks of Daniel Craig ? It's not a very small recluse group of hardcore fans like this website that can give even the slightest indication of who is the most popular Bond or who is the better Bond. The fact that you don't seem to accept is that in the general audience, Brosnan is as popular as Craig.

    I do realize that Craig is more popular in this recluse website, but you also have to realize that outside the very small online Bond communities, Brosnan and Craig have the same popularity.

    who cares about general audience's opinion either? i realize that outside this forum that you call "small communities" have different opinions, and i accept that , and about you call the fact, i ask you again have you ask EVERYONE on this planet about Bronsan is better than Craig? can you provide the database to backup your argument???
  • DaltonCraig007DaltonCraig007 They say, "Evil prevails when good men fail to act." What they ought to say is, "Evil prevails."
    edited April 2012 Posts: 15,718
    Bond online websites are meaningless, IMDB ratings are meaningless, online polls are meaningless. Opinions on what the general audience think cannot be based on these 2 insignificant and meaningless numbers.
    chuck007 wrote:
    have you ask EVERYONE on this planet about Bronsan is better than Craig? can you provide the database to backup your argument???

    Have YOU asked everyone on this planet about Craig being better than Brosnan ? And again you have missed the entire point - we are not talking about who is better, but who is POPULAR. And fact is Brosnan is as popular as Craig, even if Craig is the better Bond or the better actor. Fact is a whole generation of Bond fans grew up with Brosnan. Go speak to any group of kids about they're favorite Bond, and you'll have 2 answers : Brosnan and Craig. The sad truth today is that most kids don't care about what came before their birthyear, most don't care about Connery, Dalton, Moore or Lazenby. Young members here like @00beast or @0brady that like old stuff are very rare in the modern generation. Most kids today only swear by Craig and Brosnan in terms of Bond films.
  • MajorDSmytheMajorDSmythe "I tolerate this century, but I don't enjoy it."Moderator
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    Next time, please make use of the edit funtion @Germanlady, there's no need for a double post.
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