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Depends on the film... MR is crap, FYEO is effectively killed by the Conti score, and AVTAK he's way too old in, other than those, Moore's movies are pretty good IMO. No, I'm not gonna comb through scenes for hours, I'll just say I never saw Dalton perform like a long distance runner, a gymnast and a parkour enthusiast all in one scene. Or hang upside down by one leg in a fight after falling 30 feet, and still win & walk away. This is Bourne territory.
But, de Nile can be very deep, nes pas?
None of these scenes add up to the HUGE, massive moments I mentioned earlier in Craig's movies.
Craig looks physically like he could perform these action stunts, which makes him far more believable and human as Bond, even when he is performing like a long distance runner. For every supposed superhuman feat Craig pulls off, there are many, MANY more vulnerable scenes to counteract these supposedly OTT moments.
I think it is you who is in denial mate..... ;)
:)) That was a great scene too! I love Indiana!
That was a shocking scene - like a moment straight out of DAD. Indy 4 is also on my worst ever films list.
Casino Royale had brutal action, just like Dr No, FRWL, TB, OHMSS and the Dalton ones, but with Skyfall it's more stylised , like GF.
Oh, @Getafix - prefect summing up of Sir Roger.
Agreed, but Daniel Craig had the advantage of starring in CR (which is my favourite Bond film, just shading it from FRWL and TLD).
I hugely admire Craig's performance in it - chiefly because of the vulnerability, doubt and occassional bouts of self-loathing he brings to the table; but I still can't help thinking that if Dalton had had that sort of material to work with - i.e., a (fairly) faithful updating of one of Fleming's finest novels - then we would have seen THE definitive Bond film, by some margin.
How old are you?
We're back to this? Dude, I'm not gonna counter an OTT statement like "None of these scenes add up to the HUGE, massive moments I mentioned earlier in Craig's movies" with anything very serious. I would apply the adjectives huge & massive to the sinking of the Titanic.... ;)
I agree! A younger Dalton in CR was the perfect ticket. Dalton showed brutality so well in LTK and that he is a killer. Just the explosive laying scene in LTK shows that Bond is a dirty operator.
Dalton was one of England's best actors because to do Shakespear you have to be damn skilled.
And Dalton arrived back on a Sunday in '86 and went filming TLD the next day. That is brave with no preparation or rest. Many forget how quickly he was thrown into the part. With Craig there was a nice rest since DAD and some serious pre-production before a frame was filmed for CR.
What? Now you're saying he IS superhuman? @-)
I'm speechless.
This is why it beggers belief you put Craig so far down on your list. He has appeared in the most vulnerable moments throughout the entire franchise, yet you put all actors except Moore in front of him.
I asked you to back this up by stating moments which show a more vulnerable side to the character by other actors, and the best you could come up with is Brozza's arm in a sling.
Its nothing short of embarassing.
I agree the Bond of CR suffers the most. Dalton's suffering was more in line with QOS.
But I personally believe that Dalton having read all the novels played his Bond as a man who had been in that bottomless chair years ago. This is partly where his bitterness stems from as well as other tragic moments in his past.
Oh, okay, I missed that. My bad. :P
Ok, no worries.... B-)
I so agree. I'd add, for instance, the reaction to "Skyfall" in the word association test. He looked like someone stuck a knife into a wound. The first time I saw the movie I didn't know what the word was about at all, but seeing his reaction I immediately felt "ouch, that hurt."
In QoS I actually think he's very vulnerable, deeply wounded emotionally after Vesper. He just looks to be in pain, even if not so much physically. He probably doesn't feel physical pain much from the pain inside. That scene in the car at the end with Camille is sort of heartbreaking to me.
Craig's Bond looks believable physically. But he's not indestructible physically, either. It's not like he gets nearly tortured to death and is then up and running about soon after, he actually spends a long time recovering. And in Skyfall he struggles physically a lot, both with overall fitness after abusing his own body, and with consequences of having been shot. He doesn't just shrug it off. And so on. He's very human in his emotional and physical vulnerability, he does seem to get hurt quite badly on both areas. It surprises me that anyone would claim otherwise.
I don't care how 'wounded' a character gets, once he goes beyond what is physically humanly possible, he moves from 'First Blood' to 'Rambo III' territory, and that's not interesting to me except in the mindless cartoon sense.
Craig's films are entertaining, but suddenly, Moore crawling about the outside of a small plane seems... reasonable, LOL!!!
Thanks Molly. And yes, I agree, he is.
No one likes a fantasy element in their Bond movies more than I, but when the thin reality restraints are removed, I'd rather be watching Superman II.
:-<
Cocaine is a helluva a Drug!!
Craig does it better then Dalton. You know it but you jut won't admit it to youself
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Aaaand this is the part where I come and say that I actually haven't read any of the books. Yeah, I know. A disgrace.
I humbly recommend you read Moonraker if you read no other Fleming novel, just for a taste of the source.