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Casino Royale uncut and rated '15' for UK 50th Anniversary box set

GavSalkeldGavSalkeld
edited August 2012 in Bond Movies Posts: 66
The uncut international version has been passed '15' for the upcoming Blu-ray set :) Since I assume EON want all countries to have the same version, this means that Casino Royale should also be released uncut in the US edition of the box set too. Wahey!
http://www.bbfc.co.uk/BVF223833
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  • VirageVirage
    Posts: 1,856
    Uncut?!?? More Tourture scenes?!?!? That scene is fine as it is. Put the cricket provillen stuff back in!
  • Theblack007Theblack007
    Posts: 66
    I got a pirate copy (I know, I know- not good) of Casino Royale about 2 weeks after it was released at the cinema and it includes the full uncut torture scene where Le Chiffre lays the rope over Bond's shoulder at the beginning of the scene....It's brutal!
  • GavSalkeldGavSalkeld
    edited August 2012 Posts: 66
    Yes, some preview versions in the UK were shown uncut. A similar situation happened with The Matrix in some counties.
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
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    Maybe we will finally get ALL the deleted scenes!!! <:-P
  • Samuel001Samuel001 Moderator
    Posts: 13,355
    It's about one shot but it's nice to see the proper version out there for all to see at last.
    0BradyM0Bondfanatic7 wrote:
    Maybe we will finally get ALL the deleted scenes!!! <:-P

    Sadly not. The special features have already been confirmed and there's nothing new.
  • GavSalkeldGavSalkeld
    edited August 2012 Posts: 66
    No, it won't be an extended director's cut edition, it's just the international version without the MPAA or BBFC cuts. And there's actually three shots missing in the UK version, but they are so slight no one ever notices the other two. I think the BBFC edits make very little difference to the scene!
  • karatemanchan37karatemanchan37
    Posts: 584
    0BradyM0Bondfanatic7 wrote:
    Maybe we will finally get ALL the deleted scenes!!! <:-P

    Including the one with Eva in the water! ;)
  • Samuel001Samuel001 Moderator
    edited August 2012 Posts: 13,355
    Will any other films have their ratings changed or is that it now?

    No other films set to be upped to a 12 from a PG rating?
  • craigrulescraigrules
    Posts: 284
    Does anyone know if any of the other films will be uncut?
  • GavSalkeldGavSalkeld
    Posts: 66
    Not sure what you mean "set to be upped". Nothing is set, the BBFC only makes that decision if the company resubmits a film for classification. We don't know until they review it.

    Most of the earlier films have passed at the same level (including Thunderball, which surprised me). GoldenEye has retained its ridiculous '15' rating, as has Licence to Kill. Both are uncut, as per the UE DVDs. Unless we see a proper uncut Quantum of Solace, I think that's the only one that we can hope to see uncut. And whatever happened to Marc Foster's alternate version that was apparently coming?
  • Samuel001Samuel001 Moderator
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    There are no other films out there with cut versions are far as I'm aware. Unless The World Is Not Enough, Die Another Day or Quantum Of Solace received a trim at some point.
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
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    karatemanchan37 wrote:
    0BradyM0Bondfanatic7 wrote:
    Maybe we will finally get ALL the deleted scenes!!! <:-P

    Including the one with Eva in the water! ;)

    That's the one I am referring to. Does anyone know of the other missing scene?
  • Samuel001Samuel001 Moderator
    edited August 2012 Posts: 13,355
    GavSalkeld wrote:
    And whatever happened to Marc Foster's alternate version that was apparently coming?

    The second release of the film with more features and the extra ending scene hasn't turned up yet. It's very annoying.

    I'm shocked Thunderball is still a PG!
  • GavSalkeldGavSalkeld
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    Thunderball is definitely at the upper end of 'PG'. Quantum of Solace received alterations in three scenes thanks to the BBFC, and these changes sadly made their way into international versions.
  • Samuel001Samuel001 Moderator
    edited August 2012 Posts: 13,355
    0BradyM0Bondfanatic7 wrote:
    Does anyone know of the other missing scene?

    The playing card being ripped in half, Le Chiffre peering out of the window. There a quite a number that didn't make it into the finished film.
    GavSalkeld wrote:
    Thunderball is definitely at the upper end of 'PG'. Quantum of Solace received alterations in three scenes thanks to the BBFC, and these changes sadly made their way into international versions.

    Quantum Of Solace's uncut version must still exist, I'd love if it was released as part of this set too.

    Were any cuts to the last two Brosnan films made, you're aware of @GavSalkeld?
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
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    Samuel001 wrote:
    0BradyM0Bondfanatic7 wrote:
    Does anyone know of the other missing scene?

    The playing card being ripped in half, Le Chiffre peering out of the window. There a quite a number that didn't make it into the finished film.
    GavSalkeld wrote:
    Thunderball is definitely at the upper end of 'PG'. Quantum of Solace received alterations in three scenes thanks to the BBFC, and these changes sadly made their way into international versions.

    Quantum Of Solace's uncut version must still exist, I'd love if it was released as part of this set too.

    Were any cuts to the last two Brosnan films made, you're aware of @GavSalkeld?
    What was the card getting ripped? I have seen Le Chiffre looking out the window.
  • BenBen
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    Does anyone know why there is no commentary on the two Craig films and no deleted scenes on the DVD?
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
    Posts: 28,694
    Ben wrote:
    Does anyone know why there is no commentary on the two Craig films and no deleted scenes on the DVD?

    Exactly. I would love a commentary, especially from Dan who adores being Bond.
  • Samuel001Samuel001 Moderator
    Posts: 13,355
    0BradyM0Bondfanatic7 wrote:
    Samuel001 wrote:
    0BradyM0Bondfanatic7 wrote:
    Does anyone know of the other missing scene?

    The playing card being ripped in half, Le Chiffre peering out of the window. There a quite a number that didn't make it into the finished film.
    GavSalkeld wrote:
    Thunderball is definitely at the upper end of 'PG'. Quantum of Solace received alterations in three scenes thanks to the BBFC, and these changes sadly made their way into international versions.

    Quantum Of Solace's uncut version must still exist, I'd love if it was released as part of this set too.

    Were any cuts to the last two Brosnan films made, you're aware of @GavSalkeld?
    What was the card getting ripped? I have seen Le Chiffre looking out the window.

    In the trailer, I'm not sure which one. There is also a still from the scene showing the ripped card here:

    http://www.mi6-hq.com/images/stills/cr_44_280.jpg
    Ben wrote:
    Does anyone know why there is no commentary on the two Craig films and no deleted scenes on the DVD?

    We've been given the lesser version of the two that Casino Royale has on DVD. The other has a commentary and deleted scenes.
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
    Posts: 28,694
    Is Le Chiffre ripping the ace of spades? Makes sense considering it is the "death card".
  • Samuel001Samuel001 Moderator
    edited August 2012 Posts: 13,355
    No, it's the seven of spades.

    Also there's an extended version of Valenka swimming under the water. Lots of scenes still to be released to the world! One day, we may see them.
  • BenBen
    Posts: 121
    Skyfall seems to going in the right direction, hopefully we will get a cast and crew commentary and deleted scenes for the DVD. We may see UltraViolet (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UltraViolet_(system)) as it says on the article that Sony are signed up to it.
  • Samuel001Samuel001 Moderator
    Posts: 13,355
    Expect all that in the second DVD release. The first will be bare bones, as usual.
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
    edited August 2012 Posts: 28,694
    Samuel001 wrote:
    No, it's the seven of spades.

    Also there's an extended version of Valenka swimming under the water. Lots of scenes still to be released to the world! One day, we may see them.
    You can see the card that far away?
  • GavSalkeldGavSalkeld
    Posts: 66
    Samuel001 wrote:
    Expect all that in the second DVD release. The first will be bare bones, as usual.

    We had a barebones DVD and a Deluxe Edition already.
    Also, scenes in trailers are quite often composed of unused/alternate shots to avoid spoilers, or even specially-shot sequences. Its possible these were never intended to be in the film, or even as deleted scenes.
  • BenBen
    Posts: 121
    Might as well wait for the second edition, that's if they decide to do extra's that are worthwhile this time.
  • Samuel001Samuel001 Moderator
    edited August 2012 Posts: 13,355
    0BradyM0Bondfanatic7 wrote:
    Samuel001 wrote:
    No, it's the seven of spades.

    Also there's an extended version of Valenka swimming under the water. Lots of scenes still to be released to the world! One day, we may see them.
    You can see the card that far away?

    Look at the screen shot, it's got '7' in the corner. Plus it's even clearer in the trailer. Also, the ace of spades is also different looking to the rest of the pack.
    GavSalkeld wrote:
    Samuel001 wrote:
    Expect all that in the second DVD release. The first will be bare bones, as usual.

    We had a barebones DVD and a Deluxe Edition already.

    @Ben was talking about Skyfall's DVD release.
  • GavSalkeldGavSalkeld
    Posts: 66
    Ah, my apologies!
  • Samuel001Samuel001 Moderator
    edited August 2012 Posts: 13,355
    GavSalkeld wrote:
    Also, scenes in trailers are quite often composed of unused/alternate shots to avoid spoilers, or even specially-shot sequences. Its possible these were never intended to be in the film, or even as deleted scenes.

    Quite the tease if that's the case! Casino Royale does seem to have a lot missing on the cutting room floor, more than most films, as does Die Another Day.
    Ben wrote:
    Might as well wait for the second edition, that's if they decide to do extra's that are worthwhile this time.

    That exact reason I still don't own Quantum Of Solace. I want the proper edition this time and won't be conned like I was with Casino Royale! Lesson learned.
  • BenBen
    edited August 2012 Posts: 121
    Samuel001 wrote:

    That exact reason I still don't own Quantum Of Solace. I want the proper edition this time and won't be conned like I was with Casino Royale! Lesson learned.

    Haha, sound like a good idea.
    Samuel001 wrote:
    No, it's the seven of spades.

    I'm sure you don't really care but I'm going to tell you anyway. :P

    At 1:08 is him ripping the card. And it's a 5 of spades, also you can see in the image that the spade layout is too spread out to be a 7. I did say you wouldn't care. :P
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