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Bond 50 Gun Barrel

RambiritchRambiritch
edited August 2012 in General Discussion Posts: 16
I just was seeking fan feedback that since its EON 50th year anniversary, would it be a fitting tribute to showcase Bob Simmons gun barrel walk through at the beginning of Skyfall. Note this in no way would undermine Mr.Craig (and I do recall that Sean Connery did not film this for Dr.No.) but it would simply pay tribute to the classic spy genre that we've all come to idolize throughout these decades.
Daniel Craig sequence can possibly placed at the end citing 'James Bond Will Return'...
I've seen what a stirling cleanup Lowry Images have done of the original gun barrel sequence & it may be rather appropriate.
What do the members and fans say?
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  • RogueAgentRogueAgent
    Posts: 12,526
    I want Daniel Craig to do it with a Golden Gun Barrel perhaps? ;)
  • zebrafishzebrafish <°)))< in Octopussy's garden in the shade
    Posts: 4,341
    No, not Bob Simmons, he swings his gun like a discus, completely unnatural. I would prefer Craig, but with a slower stride - by now he should be a settled agent and not the rookie from CR, with confidence in a slower walk. By the way, I strongly dislike cheesy and too blatantly obvious tributes to previous films (DAD).
    A golden barrel would be a nice little touch, though.
  • wildboonjivewildboonjive
    Posts: 299
    I appreciate where you're coming from @Rambiritch, but I agree with the others. Having Bob Simmons would not be the right decision. It would draw too much attention right off the bat for the wrong reason. It should be Craig. And a much better version than the one from QoS.
  • DamnCoffeeDamnCoffee
    Posts: 51
    I agree. All I want is a proper Craig gunbarrel. No CGI bullet. Just Craig, walking turning and shooting, with hopefully the Casino Royale gunbarrel design. No gimmicks, even though it's the 50th. This is Craigs movie. His third Bond film, and he deserves a proper gunbarrel.
  • Alan007Alan007
    Posts: 406
    I want a nice normal one in the right place, haven't had a proper gunbarrel since TWINE in '99
  • myworldisenoughmyworldisenough
    Posts: 1,143
    It's a Craig Bond film so only he should be doing the gig. Leave the Simmons walk on where it belongs in the past. And like others have stated, lets have it back where it belongs at the start of the film.
  • X3MSonicXX3MSonicX https://www.behance.net/gallery/86760163/Fa-Posteres-de-007-No-Time-To-Die
    Posts: 2,635
    I think it's not needed a great Gold gunbarrel. Just some golden tons.

    Like this one I just made:

    goldenbarrel.jpg
  • QBranchQBranch Always have an escape plan. Mine is watching James Bond films.
    Posts: 14,585
    I'm all for the gold gunbarrel. There's no question Craig should uh, 'execute' it, but what if his walk ended with a kneel like Lazenby? Or he does a little roll into a kneel and shoots as bullets hit the wall above him?
  • OHMSS69OHMSS69
    Posts: 2,341
    I would like the classic look but with a gold tint. smart.
    Have Craig do it.
    Let the red wash come down like it did in the old days
    and play TLD Gunbarrell music PLEASE!
  • gt007gt007 Station G
    Posts: 1,182
    I think the best way to honour the history of the franchise and Binder's huge contribution to it is to have a gunbarrel as close to the original as possible.
  • ohmss40ohmss40
    Posts: 44
    OHMSS69 wrote:
    I would like the classic look but with a gold tint. smart.
    Have Craig do it.
    Let the red wash come down like it did in the old days
    and play TLD Gunbarrell music PLEASE!

    I agree the TLD gunbarrel music is just great....

  • TheWizardOfIceTheWizardOfIce 'One of the Internet's more toxic individuals'
    Posts: 9,117
    OHMSS69 wrote:
    I would like the classic look but with a gold tint. smart.
    Have Craig do it.
    Let the red wash come down like it did in the old days
    and play TLD Gunbarrell music PLEASE!


    Would agree with all the above.

    I would say the classic Bond theme from DN would be the most appropriate but if not then the TLD music would be very nice and give it a classic feel.

    I would suggest the Kleinmann updated barrel used in the Brozza films but when it shimmers as he starts to walk have that shine in gold.

    I'm tempted to say have 'Albert R Broccolis Eon Productions Presents' briefly flash across it as a nod to DN but to be honest I think it spoils the effect of the GB overall.

    Craig wearing a hat would be awesome as well.
  • X3MSonicXX3MSonicX https://www.behance.net/gallery/86760163/Fa-Posteres-de-007-No-Time-To-Die
    Posts: 2,635
    TheWizardOfIce wrote:
    OHMSS69 wrote:
    I would like the classic look but with a gold tint. smart.
    Have Craig do it.
    Let the red wash come down like it did in the old days
    and play TLD Gunbarrell music PLEASE!


    Would agree with all the above.

    I would say the classic Bond theme from DN would be the most appropriate but if not then the TLD music would be very nice and give it a classic feel.

    I would suggest the Kleinmann updated barrel used in the Brozza films but when it shimmers as he starts to walk have that shine in gold.

    I'm tempted to say have 'Albert R Broccolis Eon Productions Presents' briefly flash across it as a nod to DN but to be honest I think it spoils the effect of the GB overall.

    Craig wearing a hat would be awesome as well.

    Let us see how would that look like.

    craighatbarrel.jpg
  • Lancaster007Lancaster007 Shrublands Health Clinic, England
    Posts: 1,874
    Is it DAD that the bullet from Bond's gun actually goes down the barrel of the gun aimed at him? That's pretty f@kin' impressive shooting! Robin Hood eat your heart out!
  • QBranchQBranch Always have an escape plan. Mine is watching James Bond films.
    edited September 2012 Posts: 14,585
    Yes, a lot of people criticize the CGI bullet, but I love it. I'm not saying I want to see it done again in future, as I think it works fine for that one film. Personally, I've always wanted to see the gunbarrel drop to the floor with a thud after Bond shoots.

    P.S. Love the avatar, @Lancaster007 :)>-
  • thelivingroyalethelivingroyale
    edited September 2012 Posts: 12,837
    The CGI bullet was just pointless. But you can't have a go at it for making no sense, because none of the gunbarrels do. Let's look what happens.

    Ok, Bond shot him. Now there's blood falling down in front of it, which makes sense I suppose, but wait, why is the gunbarrel still standing there?

    See, none of the gunbarrels make sense.

    And they should have a normal one for SF. Just put it at the start where it belongs, and do the gunbarrel. Please, no more little twists like the bullet, or putting it before the title sequence or at the end. Just do it normally.
  • Lancaster007Lancaster007 Shrublands Health Clinic, England
    Posts: 1,874
    Yeah, even as a kid the blood coming down the inside of the gun barrel jarred, (it doesn't make sense that blood could find its way into the barrel) but it is just so iconic…plus a lot of my mates didn't know it was looking down a gun barrel! I knew what it was straight off as I (and my father and older brothers) had a air rifle and was used to looking down the barrel to make sure there was nothing stuck in it before use.
    Still don't like that bullet though! And in some of the Roger Moore teaser trailers he walks up to the barrel, gun must have been the size of an air hanger!
  • Lancaster007Lancaster007 Shrublands Health Clinic, England
    Posts: 1,874
    QBranch wrote:
    Yes, a lot of people criticize the CGI bullet, but I love it. I'm not saying I want to see it done again in future, as I think it works fine for that one film. Personally, I've always wanted to see the gunbarrel drop to the floor with a thud after Bond shoots.

    P.S. Love the avatar, @Lancaster007 :)>-

    Thanks, QBranch. I think it is a great piece of artwork.
  • X3MSonicXX3MSonicX https://www.behance.net/gallery/86760163/Fa-Posteres-de-007-No-Time-To-Die
    edited September 2012 Posts: 2,635
    Actually, if you think better, the Blood can not be exactly from the barrel. It can be a customized sniper scope, and the guy who's seeing it takes the shot and theorically, his eye starts to blood, as the Gun also starts to shake side to side.

    Naaaaah. lol
  • wildboonjivewildboonjive
    Posts: 299
    You all are intellectualizing this WAY too much. :)) It's just a stylistic sequence. It always was. No use in rationalizing it too much.
  • X3MSonicXX3MSonicX https://www.behance.net/gallery/86760163/Fa-Posteres-de-007-No-Time-To-Die
    Posts: 2,635
    wildboonjive wrote:
    You all are intellectualizing this WAY too much. :)) It's just a stylistic sequence. It always was. No use in rationalizing it too much.

    xD i know, just wanted to have that real intellectual way to explain :D
  • OHMSS69OHMSS69
    Posts: 2,341
    After the red wash comes down you notice how the gunbarrel wavers and starts to drop down. I always thought that was the would be assassin lowering the gun prior to dying after being shot by Bond.
  • QBranchQBranch Always have an escape plan. Mine is watching James Bond films.
    Posts: 14,585
    Forgive me if there's another explanation, but why else would the barrel drop down?
  • Lancaster007Lancaster007 Shrublands Health Clinic, England
    edited September 2012 Posts: 1,874
    X3MSonicX wrote:
    Actually, if you think better, the Blood can not be exactly from the barrel. It can be a customized sniper scope, and the guy who's seeing it takes the shot and theorically, his eye starts to blood, as the Gun also starts to shake side to side.

    customised scope! Why the rifling and no cross hairs? That's a bonkers theory LOL!
    Anyway we seem to be getting off topic here. I would just like a traditional gun barrel sequence at the beginning with a slow, steady walk, turn and shoot by DC. Am so looking forward to this film.
  • RambiritchRambiritch
    edited September 2012 Posts: 16
    So there we go. DC will do it, keeping it simple at the beginning of the movie, with classic 007 theme in tow.Can't wait. Only bummer that it releases in South Africa end November 2012 (thanks SONY Pictures!!!); one of the last places on earth to premiere, barring the Dominican Republic methinks!
  • RambiritchRambiritch
    edited September 2012 Posts: 16
    So there we go. DC will do it, keeping it simple at the beginning of the movie, with classic 007 theme in tow.Can't wait. Only bummer that it releases in South Africa end November 2012 (thanks SONY Pictures!!!); one of the last places on earth to premiere, barring the Dominican Republic methinks!
  • X3MSonicXX3MSonicX https://www.behance.net/gallery/86760163/Fa-Posteres-de-007-No-Time-To-Die
    Posts: 2,635
    Lancaster007 wrote:
    X3MSonicX wrote:
    Actually, if you think better, the Blood can not be exactly from the barrel. It can be a customized sniper scope, and the guy who's seeing it takes the shot and theorically, his eye starts to blood, as the Gun also starts to shake side to side.

    customised scope! Why the rifling and no cross hairs? That's a bonkers theory LOL!

    God, I didn't remember that little detail LOL forget about my theory.

  • Gustav_GravesGustav_Graves
    Posts: 11,119
    Rambiritch wrote:
    I just was seeking fan feedback that since its EON 50th year anniversary, would it be a fitting tribute to showcase Bob Simmons gun barrel walk through at the beginning of Skyfall. Note this in no way would undermine Mr.Craig (and I do recall that Sean Connery did not film this for Dr.No.) but it would simply pay tribute to the classic spy genre that we've all come to idolize throughout these decades.
    Daniel Craig sequence can possibly placed at the end citing 'James Bond Will Return'...
    I've seen what a stirling cleanup Lowry Images have done of the original gun barrel sequence & it may be rather appropriate.
    What do the members and fans say?

    I am actually in with your proposal. The one thing I do miss is Maurice Binder's original gunbarrel. And for three Bond films in a row that gunbarrel has been tampered with too much....
  • battleshipgreygtbattleshipgreygt
    Posts: 1,220
    All I really feel is necessary is a regular gunbarrel with an updated design by Kleinman. The Brosnan design is getting dated and the CR one is a little too stylized to work outside of that context.
  • Gustav_GravesGustav_Graves
    edited September 2012 Posts: 11,119
    battleshipgreygt wrote:
    All I really feel is necessary is a regular gunbarrel with an updated design by Kleinman. The Brosnan design is getting dated and the CR one is a little too stylized to work outside of that context.

    Why updating constantly. Actually, the old Maurice Binder design was more or less unchanged between 1962 and 1989. I kinda find that....nice you know. Now I am a very progressive minded person, but when it comes to James Bond I think it's good to stick to the formula: Never change a winning design.

    Actually, I was watching the 'Bond on BluRay' trailer. One thing that struck me, where the gunbarrels at the start. The people who made the trailer did a striking job by adding the old Binder-design to Craig's 'gunbarrelwalk' from 'Quantum Of Solace':


    So, apparently the gunbarrel designs from the past two Bond films were just not....iconic enough :-).
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