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Well you've bought it presumably? It would be pointless buying it if you didn't watch it more than once!
Have you watched the Making Of doc? It's a pretty decent one.
Yes I bought it and it will be watched over and over (just without my wife, @mtm , who loved the film but she’s good at one viewing, maybe a second viewing many many many many months if not a couple years from now.!).
She accepts, but doesn’t fully understand, that once I love a film, I jump in again and again, memorizing scenes and lines and kind of letting the film live inside of me, if that makes any sense.
I haven’t yet watched the Making Of doc yet. I’m not quite ready to let go of the magic of the film and watch how they assembled the flick, just yet. Once the little boy in me is satisfied, I’ll watch the making of, 😂!!
Agree that Az goes to extremes.Sometimes he is entertaining but I can only take him in small doses.His Indy 5 review while OTT was very entertaining!
I will say there was a certain amount of glee that a lot of YouTubers took to bashing Indy 5 ( Especially when the film flopped hard ) but the filmakers brought a lot of it upon themselves with their track record ( Star Wars is all but a dead franchise now,Willow flopped so badly it was removed from D+ and Indy 5 is currently the second biggest box office bomb in Disney history next to John Carter ).
Disney have lost the trust of a lot of their customers for other reasons such as forcing LGBTQ content into children’s entertainment.It’s no wonder they have lost millions of D+ subscribers over the last year.There was a time that parents felt safe putting their children in front of Disney films and tv but not anymore.Frankly,I’m amazed none of this kind of ideaolgy made it into Indy 5 but I guess the 1969 setting made that untenable.They still managed to put a black girlboss in there though ( Would a female POC been in such a high position in the CIA in 1969? )
However, current franchises like John Wick and Mission Impossible have earned the respect of the YouTube community due to their constant high quality.Reviews for the latest instalments in these franchises have been pretty great across the board.
Ha! Makes sense!
Thank you, @j_w_pepper ! It was such a fun ride. I can't believe the frenzied,frothing commentaries... Seriously...
I can't comment on DOD, as I haven't seen it myself. If/when... if it gets a physical release, I will buy the box set. If it doesn't get a physical release, then I won't go out of my way to stream it. I mean, I am not exactly gagging for a new Indy film. Besides, I think KOTCS should have come out in the mid 90's, and DOD in the late 90s or early 00s. Ford barely scrapped through KOTCS, so I have a very low bar for DOD. All I ask, is for it to be better than TOD.
Yes it's insane. They'll twist anything to suit their agenda, it's best to ignore them. But sadly I do think they did real damage to this film.
It will be rediscovered fully in time. It's not like the box office damage will affect the next one, eh?
Not saying it's in the same league or will be rediscovered as you say @chrisisall , but The Shawshank Redemption was considered a flop when it first came out. Along with It's A Wonderful Life.
Audiences don't care about grosses and profits, that's the studios. Audiences want to be entertained. Judging by most posts in this thread, a lot of people enjoyed DOD.
Well, I don't know about the CIA, but I know for a fact that there were black Secret Service agents in the sixties, and that some of them even protected the President of the United States in 1969 (Nixon at the time).
https://www.trekbbs.com/threads/did-president-nixon-have-black-security-guards.146311/
I agree with you. Pity u missed it on the big screen, but glad you enjoyed it.
Agree that KOTC should have come out in the 90s as Ford was still believable as an action hero.I also think Spielberg hadn’t lost it as a filmmaker and the film would have been a lot better.
DOD is nowhere near as good as TOD.Ford is just way too old to be an action hero in DOD and the film suffers for it.While he gives a good acting performance,he’s physically incapable of heavy action scenes ( The opening train sequence looks like it’s a cut scene from a PS3 game,and the cgi face replacement while he’s on the horse in the subway chase is obvious )
There’s a big giant thug introduced in the film and we don’t get the traditional punch up between him and Indy because again,Ford is not capable of such fight scenes now.In fact,it’s PWB who does a lot of the physical stuff and Indy spends pretty much the last half of the film sitting down and basically being the damsel in distress before he suffers the ultimate humiliation which I won’t spoil here but if you’ve read through this thread extensively you know what it is.
PWB has her own version of Short Round ( who basically shares the same backstory ) and is terribly written ( I will say that PWB does give a good acting performance ).The film is overlong at two and a half hours and certainly doesn’t look like a $300 million movie ( A LOT of reshoots apparently despite Mangold denying this ).
TOD is my nostalgic favourite Indy flick partly because it was the first one I saw as a kid.The final half hour is non stop Indy action at its best and Mola Ram is easily the best villain ( Come on,the guy rips peoples hearts out! ). Overall,the trilogy should have been left as is and KOTCS and DOD should never have been made with Ford being the age he was ( In the latter case,Disney shareholders are certainly regretting DOD was made! )
I dunno. It seems black secret service agents did exist (cheers @Gerard), but that high up on the totem pole? Nah, probably not. Just like there probably weren’t any archeologists going off on adventures where they fought Nazis and Russians and voodoo cults over magical objects. I wonder why one bothers you and not the other?
Time traveling Nazis? I get it. Black women in the CIA? 0/10, this movie simply defies all logic.
Cleopatra Jones must have been active in 1969.
I think when your friend said he “ bought it online “ he meant that he bought the digital copy that is currently available on the likes of ITunes and Google Play and such.
Then it’ll probably be on D+ and then a physical release probably
I’d be shocked that Disney isn’t be willing to release DoD on disc.
Couldn't make a better response if I tried @thelivingroyale, well done.
I meant the order that they will release it.
First digital to rent or buy.
Than D+ to stream.
Then a physical 4K disc release.
There is a difference though: we're still talking about Indy 5. I really don't hear anyone still talking about Avatar 2, not even a full year after it's release. That's a sign that Avatar 2 isn't aging well. But Indy 5 just might.
It is a fun film, and hopefully more sensible voices will now be heard (haters like to storm things,create as much destruction as they can, thn move to the next "offence"....), so hopefullyIndy does have a nice bounce in the digital sales.
Honestly, it's the furthest thing from any agenda other than telling a damn good and entertaining story.
Why would we talk about AVATAR 2 in an Indy thread. ;)
I get what you mean though, but I don’t think that comparison works. Indy 5 had only just hit digital and many are seeing it for the first time through that right now, so it’s not surprising that chatter is still going about Indy 5. Let’s see if people still talk about Indy 5 in 2024. I only brought up AVATAR 2 because its release on home media is being mirrored with Indy 5. There was no announcement of a disc release of AVATAR 2 until this very summer, and I suspect we won’t hear about it for Indy 5 until late in the fall.
That said, AVATAR 2 was way better as a film going experience. My audience had a more notable reaction to that film compared to the tempered one for INDY 5. When the closing credits started, there was barely a clap. It was a very muted audience, understandable given it was such a somber film. AVATAR 2? Big applause, and well earned.
And I didn’t even like the first film that much.
Avatar 2 made over 2 billion dollars,and three more sequels ( at least) on the way.There were those who said before the film released that said it had been too long since the first one or that the first movie was a “ fluke “ and that it would struggle to make even half what the first movie made.
It made 2 billion and the audience loved it.Not much more to discuss until the next sequel comes.
Indy 5 couldn’t even crack $400 million and the main topic of discussion is how bad it was,and even the more positive reviews online are along the lines of “ Well at least it wasn’t as bad as Crystal Skull “.The audience reaction I witnessed in my theater after the film finished was just dead silence and no one laughed at any of the jokes in the movie or anything.The audience was just apathetic to the film.My Avatar 2 theater experience had people gasping at a lot of the visuals and action scenes.
I know Indy 5 has its fans here but it’s generally regarded as a poor film and will be forever known as the one film in the franchise that flopped hard and should never have been made.
I was a bit worried after all their moves to stop making discs in Australia and barely releasing the score to this on CD, but then I saw they're releasing Mandalorian and Prey and Winter Soldier etc. on Blu Ray, so I'm pretty sure we'll get this.
I completely believe that Avatar 2 is the better film, I can just never quite bring myself to watch it! It just doesn't interest me at all. I guess I will at some point though.
Disney knows there will be collectors/completists who go straight for those kind of titles more so than something like ELEMENTALS or JUNGLE CRUISE. Geek culture can always be depended on when it comes to physical media. And nobody knows that better than LucasFilm.
True, but they've only just decided that.