MPAA rating released

edited September 2012 in Skyfall Posts: 21
MPAA just released rating for Skyfall. PG-13 for intense violent sequences throughout, some sexuality language, and smoking
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  • Agent007391Agent007391 Up, Up, Down, Down, Left, Right, Left, Right, B, A, Start
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    How do I express my un-surprise?

    Edit: 2700 posts!!!
  • edited September 2012 Posts: 12,837
    I don't understand how age ratings work in America.

    I always thought PG 13 was the same as a 12 here in the UK (Taken 2 is an example), but then some PG 13 films (like Licence To Kill, Die Hard 4 and Expendables 2), have gotten 15's over here.
  • EX 2 was rated R wasn't it?
  • edited September 2012 Posts: 12,837
    OwenDavian wrote:
    EX 2 was rated R wasn't it?

    Just looked it up, I was wrong, sorry, it was an R. I read ages ago it would be PG 13 because of Chuck Norris.

    But then that's more confusing. If that's an R (which I always thought was the US version of an 18), why is it a 15 over here?
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    OwenDavian wrote:
    EX 2 was rated R wasn't it?

    Just looked it up, I was wrong, sorry, it was an R. I read ages ago it would be PG 13 because of Chuck Norris.

    But then that's more confusing. If that's an R (which I always thought was the US version of an 18), why is it a 15 over here?
    Perhaps English people grow up faster than Americans :O) ?
  • Agent007391Agent007391 Up, Up, Down, Down, Left, Right, Left, Right, B, A, Start
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    OwenDavian wrote:
    EX 2 was rated R wasn't it?

    Just looked it up, I was wrong, sorry, it was an R. I read ages ago it would be PG 13 because of Chuck Norris.

    Actually, the swearing was toned down because of Chuck Norris. Sometimes, ratings just have to do with violence.
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    Hang on Smoking?????
  • edited September 2012 Posts: 12,837
    Virage wrote:
    Hang on Smoking?????

    The french girl smokes, it was in the trailer I think, or a photo or something. Sadly I don't think Bond does.
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    jwxbulldog wrote:
    MPAA just released rating for Skyfall. PG-13 for intense violent sequences throughout, some sexuality language, and smoking

    This isn't the final rating, is it? The movie is not completely finished yet...
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    Virage wrote:
    Hang on Smoking?????

    The french girl smokes, it was in the trailer I think, or a photo or something. Sadly I don't think Bond does.

    Sadly?!? Ha. I cringe when he smokes.
  • Virage wrote:
    Virage wrote:
    Hang on Smoking?????

    The french girl smokes, it was in the trailer I think, or a photo or something. Sadly I don't think Bond does.

    Sadly?!? Ha. I cringe when he smokes.

    Years ago people smoking would have had no effect to a films rating. Like the Bond movies of yesteryear it wasn't a problem. In the modern era however smoking is seen differently by the powers that be. I dont smoke (I did occasionally socially with beers or a spirit or two years ago!) and have no issue with seeing Bond smoke in the older movies. I do however have no issue either with him not smoking in the Brosnan era (save for the cigar in DAD) and the Craig era. Smoking does not define him. Take away his smoking Walther then that would be a whole different point of view!
  • Posts: 1,310
    No surprises here, although an MPAA rating can only mean one thing:

    WE'RE GETTING CLOSE!!!!
  • Virage wrote:
    Virage wrote:
    Hang on Smoking?????

    The french girl smokes, it was in the trailer I think, or a photo or something. Sadly I don't think Bond does.

    Sadly?!? Ha. I cringe when he smokes.

    Why?

    I don't see why Bond has stopped smoking. He smokes. He smoked in the books and most of the films. I don't get why people are always on about how Bond should stay true to Fleming, and then are happy for him not to smoke? There's basically no reason for him not to, apart from it being "PC"
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    One of my biggest post-Dalton complaints is not being able to see Bond smoke as per Fleming's description of the character. I say this as a non-smoker too!
  • I don't think it's maybe the thing to do now for Bond to be smoking, it worked for Dalton in the 1980s and Connery before that, but times change and I just don't think it works for Craig's Bond

    I'm all for in recent releases, getting some hard edged action and a Bond movie release, not so much for adults, but mature teenagers. Nothing too violent, no real extremes of profanities, just some fine action for that everyone can enjoy, while not being too sugarcoated as pre-Craig releases
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    As a smoker, I've always appreciated seeing smoking in films. If this is going to be a classic Bond film, I can only hope Bond has a cigarette in this. It looks like Severine will smoke, but why not Bond while he enjoys death, or have one as he meets with Severine in Macau?

    Craig has been an on-and-off smoker in real life, and took up smoking for his role in TGWTDT, so why not one or two here for the film, as well?
  • Agent007391Agent007391 Up, Up, Down, Down, Left, Right, Left, Right, B, A, Start
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    Since we're on the subject of smoking, I guess I'll throw in my two cents.

    I'm a non-smoker, and I'm always trying to get my family (who all smoke) to stop, though it's usually just in jest, because I know they won't. I have no problem with smokers in film, video games, books, comics. The only time I've ever had that problem was the novelization of Resident Evil Extinction, where damn near every character was described as a heavy smoker.

    As far as Bond smoking, well, Fleming wrote him as a smoker, Gardner wrote hims as a smoker, Benson wrote him as a smoker, even Jeffery Deaver wrote his reboot Bond as a former smoker. Bond is a smoker or a former smoker, pure and simple.
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    Since we're on the subject of smoking, I guess I'll throw in my two cents.
    Me too, me too.
    Craig´s chiseled body doesn´t look at all like smoking. The black one yes, the small glowing ones, never. It fit all the other actors because even when trim none of them looked like he spent a tenth of the time in the gym Craig seems to have spent there.

  • It's only a film. Yes in real life Craigs Bond probably wouldn't smoke if he wanted to stay that fit but does anybody care, it's only a film?
    Bond is a smoker or a former smoker, pure and simple.

    Exactly my point.
  • edited September 2012 Posts: 7,653
    The smoking subject again.

    Well throw any tantrum you want but 007 will not be smoking in the near future.

    The kind of job 007 has makes it highly unlikely he smokes, and that is the reality of today. Smoking makes little sense and is no longer considered cool. And Fleming was a bit racist too and we do not have that in the movies these days do we? Times change and 007 has too change as well. His not smoking does not really alter his character.
  • X3MSonicXX3MSonicX https://www.behance.net/gallery/86760163/Fa-Posteres-de-007-No-Time-To-Die
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    Bond's smoking just fitted the 60's, not the nowadays. Connery's Bond was an example.
    Imagine Brosnan in DAD smoking a cigar while he was in that silly simulator. Just didn't fit.
  • St_GeorgeSt_George Shuttling Drax's lovelies to the space doughnut - happy 40th, MR!
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    That pretty much means it'll be a '12A' in the UK then, I suspect.

    Good stuff - just as every Bond film has been since GE (or at least a '12', before the '12A' came into being for cinemas)...
  • edited September 2012 Posts: 12,837
    X3MSonicX wrote:
    Bond's smoking just fitted the 60's, not the nowadays. Connery's Bond was an example.
    Imagine Brosnan in DAD smoking a cigar while he was in that silly simulator. Just didn't fit.

    Yeah but he smoked at the bar in cuba and it fit fine.


    I don't see why Bond can't smoke. He's smoked before and it's not like smokings illegal or something, people still smoke today. He could smoke in the casino scene from the trailer with Severine, or like @Creasy47 said, he could smoke while he was enjoying death.

    @SaintMark I wouldn't say his job makes it highly unlikely, his job is pretty stressful, maybe he smokes when he's just having a break during the mission, like in the bar or casino?
  • X3MSonicXX3MSonicX https://www.behance.net/gallery/86760163/Fa-Posteres-de-007-No-Time-To-Die
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    Yeah but he smoked at the bar in cuba and it fit fine.

    Actually I didn't remembered that. Thanks for refreshing my mind.
    I don't see why Bond can't smoke. He's smoked before and it's not like smokings illegal or something, people still smoke today. He could smoke in the casino scene from the trailer with Severine, or like @Creasy47 said, he could smoke while he was enjoying death.

    @SaintMark I wouldn't say his job makes it highly unlikely, his job is pretty stressful, maybe he smokes when he's just having a break during the mission, like in the bar or casino?

    We didn't see the whole movie yet, so maybe he smokes something out on the scenes we didn't see.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    I mainly pointed out his 'enjoying death' because it seems like one of the more logical places to do it: it appears that he is doing some hardcore drinking while everyone cheers him on, so why not smoke as well? That's pretty classic to me. I don't see how people can get so uptight about a cigarette.
  • edited September 2012 Posts: 5,767
    SaintMark wrote:
    Well throw any tantrum you want but 007 will not be smoking in the near future.

    The kind of job 007 has makes it highly unlikely he smokes, and that is the reality of today. Smoking makes little sense and is no longer considered cool.
    Bond films were never and never will be about reality.
    I agree that smoking makes little sense in general, however smoking being cool depends entirely on the presentation. It should be hard to make smoking look cool in a 60s Connery way, but then Connery didn´t really present it as a vice, and why sholudn´t Bond have one more imperfection? It wouldn´t pass the 12/13rating, but apart from that smoking could give Bond a dirtier appearance in a very cool, though not necessarily amiable, way.
    However, since recent Bond is very much about visual impression, I stick to my previous point that Craig´s Bond simply does look much more like a fitness freak than a chain smoker. His physique just looks too healthy. He would have the face to play a chain smoker, but then he shouldn´t have this muscular body. The scraggy body he had in Cowboys and Aliens would fit rather well to a chain smoker.

  • DAD was a 12 when it was released and Severine was smoking in the trailer so I think it'd still get a 12 if Bond smoked.
  • MrBondMrBond Station S
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    In Sweden the movie is rated for 15 years. But Sony Sweden and the Swedish cinema is in negotiation to lower the rating to 11 years.
  • I am guessing like all the BOND films SKYFALL will be rated "TOUS PUBLIC"...meaning everyone can watch it....Its interesting the different rating systems in different countries...
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    Still I will not take my daughters to the cinema to watch Craigs 007, I find the violence in his movies a tad more in the face than some of the previous actors. They love Moore, Brosnan & Connery.
    It is my perogative and responsibility as a parent that is in place here. I find craigs Bond a tad on the aggresive side for younger kids.


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