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What's the secret signal?
The funny part is I'm not even kidding at all. The man is INTELLIGENT. Come to grips with it! He knew what to do. Just a pity he's not in office. We need a good comeback.
What's the matter with a little post-election debate, eh?
RC, 00Beast is a child; I suggest you treat him as such.
-Spockisall
First off he had very little to do with the Bin Laden thing....the only thing Obama did was authorize the invasion on the compound. The jobs overseas coming back? I don't see it...all I see is the unemployment rate at a high figure for the last 2 years or so.
Nah, just an American putting in his two cents like everyone else. Forgive me if that's "not allowed".
The auto industry how I love hearing people praise him on this topic. What he did was waste so much tax payer money (I think I read on CNN that the tax payers lost over 30 Billion dollars in that little bailout) I still think it was a bad move.
Obamacare is a joke....when this act finally kicks in you will see how bad people will abuse it and how much money will be wasted. What about having adequate doctors and nurses on hand?
Some things were good..mostly bad
Really? Just because I pulled for Mitt Romney and George W. Bush, and like to speak about God and Christ? You know that "Land of the Free" thing works both ways, buddy.
IMHO
Abused it? From whence does this logic hail? Pretty sure I'm just the guy that's easy to attack because he thinks differently from the vast majority of posters around here. Suddenly that's a penalty?
True. I'm sure the comment was appropriated at face value. Satire would be lost.
Beast, you need more education on these issues & history to carry on an intelligent discussion. For instance, I could not discuss quantum physics or diamond cutting intelligently because of my lack of knowledge in these areas, similarly when you use words like 'intelligent' when discussing Bush, you immediately lose a great deal of credibility, like someone discussing Star Trek would by referring to a certain character as Dr. Spock.
Obama has failed. Cheap promises and easy smiles are what got him into power in 2008 and again this year. He has failed to live up to the hype and abandoned his programme early on (climate change, anyone?). On some things like healthcare, this isn't his fault. But he's far too slick and PR orientated. There seems no substance about him and he appears weak. Tub thumping can only get you so far and imo, he is just a poor man's Jimmy Carter. I hope Obama's second term is better than his first....but I wont hold my breath.
Obama was the lesser of two evils. The Republicans are like Thatcherites in the UK but only worse, much worse. There politics are divisive and are out of touch with the world's needs. Men like Nixon and Reagan won land slides because they offered real change not just to the privledged few but to everyone, no matter what. Romney just flip flopped too much. Going from the radical right to the centre was a mistake. People would be more willing to vote for you if you stuck by your principles and not changed what you said just to win votes. Thatcher's policies may have been hugely unpopular and wrong (imo) but at least she was straight and honest and she didn't bow to public popularity unlike Obama and Romney.
The way large sections of the American population picked who they voted for is the most worrying aspect of all this. 95% of Black Americans voted for Obama. How disgusting is that....they vote for someone based exclusively on skin colour. No examination of his record or his manifesto for the next four years. Some people voted based on the religious background of the candidates, some voted just because a candidate opposed abortion and same sex marriage. Ridiculous. In times of economic turmoil and high danger from terrorism, the fact you pick your leader based on there views on abortion is, quite frankly, dangerous and repulsive. At least David Cameron will be judged on what he has/hasn't done, not his skin colour or his moral/private views on non issues such as abortion and same sex marriage (PRO CHOICE, anyone?).
Ultimately, Obama winning may push the Republican party further into the hands of the Tea Party group. I can see a massive lurch to the right, with Sarah Palin becoming the GOP's candidate in 2016. And that is scary and worrying quite frankly. America needs a strong leader, the world needs America to have a strong leader. Not a war mongerer, a voice of hatred, a voice of denial in the face of scientific fact. Nor do they need someone who will ignore the budget deficit or forget about the poor and needy. Obama may have won....but America is a divided nation in almost every sense.
Nah, it's basically your tone. You talk down to others, spitting out your beliefs as if they're fact and telling us that our beliefs are wrong just because yours are right. You don't exactly know what the word "belief" means, and like all Republicans, you equate the words "Democrat" and "Liberal" with "wrong" and "evil".
I just found it funny how direct people were being about it "he killed Bin Laden", so I made a joke, that's all.
Now I don't understand why people are so against Obama care or whatever it's called. In the UK we have the NHS and it works fine. I don't think the hospitals over there would suddenly turn to sh*t if health care was free in the US.
Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11.
Oh yes they did. They live in a foreign land, speak funny, have a tan and eat babies...that's enough isn't it. How many more excuses does team America at the behest of Israel need? Oh yes and they have oil or neighbours who pump oil through their borders but that's not important.
Just because we don't have a government healthcare program (yet) doesn't mean we don't have access to it.
There are hundreds of affordable plans for middle working class people, and often times people get *free* healthcare (taken from their paycheck) at their places of employment.
There are fewer and fewer good jobs these days, thus less offer easy healthcare plans, thus more people lack healthcare. But it's still big business. It's something every American has had to plan for and be mature about until now.
Now we've just given it up to the government, and it's nice to see the good it can do, but simultaneously scary to think of where it can go.
Why should we take money for them to help people less fortunate. How is that fair? They made their way through college and got their jobs and made their money. Earned their money. Overpriced or not we pay it, so it's their's.
Who has the right to take that from them? I understand that some people are less fortunate, no, alot of people are less fortunate, but you can't justify robin hood tactics in a democracy.
Who the hell gives anyone the right to take from me and give to someone else. How about you encourage charities, or hell, just add a tax on doctor's offices that goes straight to funding a program for only those less fortunate. Don't overhaul the whole damn system and force me into something that will cost me control over my life, literally.
We had a similar debate in Britain in 1948. Things turned out alright.
Cheers, and I'm not so pessimistic I'm brainwashed in believing it wont work. But I don't like people's attitudes towards taking from the rich simply because they're rich. I don't take chips from a factory simply because they have an abundance of them.
And not to be a dick, but Americans have a history of setting themselves distinct from the Brits.
Sometimes for the worst, honestly. Comedy, to be specific.
And the ones who just inherited it? They should just get to keep their money because they laid around and waited for their parents to die? I'm not saying they don't have a right to their money, but does that mean that I don't have the right to mine, even though I also earn my money?
I'm not saying we should go Robin Hood, but why is right for the rich to horde it all and the poor to suffer just because the rich are the rich?
So, you are saying that only the rich deserve anything, huh? That's the problem with Republicans, they want some sort of money monarchy, where the rich rule and the poor do their bidding just to live.
It does seem a bit unfair but wouldn't free health care work better in the long run?
I did one archery lesson in the 90s and I was in the army so if things ever do get all Robin Hood over there give me a call ;)