"Ahoy, Mr Bond! Ahoy, Mr Bond!": Let's discuss... Dr No (1962)/ Poll

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  • Posts: 19,339
    No party DC007,just a few members in an vast minority who would rather watch a Brosnan Bond over DN huddling together - i gave it 5/10 as well.
  • doubleoegodoubleoego #LightWork
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    Dr.No may be a little rough but for me it's roughness is part of its charm and appeal. The movie is spectacular. The simplicity of the movie as a package reigns significant and is therefore one of the reasons why it's in my top 5.

    I love the old fashioned attitudes and behavioural patterns, specifically displayed by Bond i.e. Bond thanking Dent for sparing so much of his time when he met him at the lab, knowing full well Dent was full of crap and again when Bond leaves the lab and says good morning to Dent's secretary on his way out. It's nice little touches like that that makes me smile.

    Connery as Bond was a beast in this movie. He was the definition of Alpha male. His style, his swagger was ridiculously impeccable. The authority he was able to convey with his voice and body language was hypnotic and every time the Bond theme played, it complimented his every move, in fact I'd go as far as to say that it was as if Connery himself was the inspiration behind the Bond theme.

    The characters, the villains, the contrasting dreary atmosphere of London to sun-soaked Jamaica alll came together seamlessly. Dr.No is a classic example of capitalising on a shoestring budget and producing a film that isn't bloated with unfavourable excess. The significance of the film's simplicity is a contributing factor that makes Dr.No a Bond movie regularly revisited moreso than many of the other entries in the series.
  • Posts: 4,762
    No party DC007,just a few members in an vast minority who would rather watch a Brosnan Bond over DN huddling together - i gave it 5/10 as well.
    Hit the nail on the head, barry!
  • Posts: 2,341
    I saw DR NO many years ago and I was blown away. I had never seen anything like it. From the violent murders of Stangeways and his secretary to DR No's death scene. I really liked the movie. The low budget look can be ignored. I did have some issues with the PC and some parts seem overly racist even for 1962.
    Otherwise an enjoyable film. It was listed in a Men's Health Magazine as one of the top 100 "Man Movies" (along with Dirty Dozen, Death Wish, etc)
  • Posts: 1,994
    It's funny how so many view this film in terms of what's politically correct today, or today's technology, or whatever. It was raw, crude, original, and owed nothing to a predecessor. What you saw is what became--music, style, format, design, structure.
    You name it. This film exists on its own terms in its own time. It may be brutal, violent, misogynist, and racist, but it's pure and it's the original Bond.
  • QsAssistantQsAssistant All those moments lost in time... like tears in rain
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    Couldn't have said it better myself!

    While Dr. No isn't the greatest Bond film, it is one of the better ones. It has my favorite Bond kill in any of the movies... "That's a Smith & Wesson, and you had your six." (BLAM)
  • KerimKerim Istanbul Not Constantinople
    edited November 2011 Posts: 2,629
    Whoever did it, nice job on the trailer. Loved the modernized feel of the trailer without compromising the originality of the film.
  • My main issue with Dr. No has always been the dialogue. It seems flown in from the book, with no sense. Example: Honey and Bond are talking and all of a sudden she goes into this tirade about seeing insects and animals do things most people would never see. In this book this made sense, she was attempting to explain to Bond how smart she was compared to him, but in the movie it just seemed thrown in. There are other bits of dialogue as well that seem to be awkward. Unfortunately I can't think of any at the moment.
    Otherwise its not a bad movie and rather well done for a British film of the time (being shot on location and in color!) It's certainly born of its time with Cold War feelings of missile toppling and pitting the US and Russia against one another simply for money or kicks. I give it a 6/10.
  • QBranchQBranch Always have an escape plan. Mine is watching James Bond films.
    edited November 2011 Posts: 14,585
    I like DN a lot. There's really not much I can say about it that hasn't already been said. Maybe if it was made after FRWL or GF, I could be more critical towards it. PROBABLY my 3rd fave Connery outing after FRWL and TB, tying with GF.

    One thing that always amuses me is a continuity error when Bond meets Sylvia. At one point he takes the cigarette out of his mouth (back to the camera), then it cuts to him with the cigarette back in his mouth as he pulls it out to say "I have no objection". It's like they tried to make him look too cool in those first moments. However, DN does have some of the coolest lines in the franchise including (as @QsAssistant said) "That's a Smith & Wesson, and you've had yer 6." Plow! Plow!

    If I have to compare it to other Bond films, I'd give it 8/10.

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  • 4EverBonded4EverBonded the Ballrooms of Mars
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    Well, thanks to Samuel001 for bringing this thread a bit back to life. :)

    Dr. No - the original and how many of us love it? And why? Or think it is ... well, not worth talking about much? Hmmm.

    I really liked this, what I just read from DarthDimi (ages ago):
    DarthDimi wrote:
    Imagine if DN had been produced by a different crew. Imagine it had been someone else playing Bond and someone else directing, scoring, designing and so forth. The only exception here might have been Barry, scoring the film altogether. However, and this is a delicate point, I wonder if Barry's theme had resembled Norman's if they had left Norman out of this film completely. And without the Bond Theme, how about the rest of the score(s)? Would Barry ever have captured that Bondian sound were it not for those simple but pivotal bars that Norman decided to bring to this film?

    I love Sean (strong in his debut as Bond), Ursula, the story itself ... keeping in mind it was all so fresh and original, no previously template. Still to this day, hard to top Ursula as a stunning Bond girl. And yes, Monty's Bond theme - how I love it!

    P.S. I rather miss St. George.



  • MrcogginsMrcoggins Following in the footsteps of Quentin Quigley.
    Posts: 3,144
    I rather miss St George. Me too.
  • I watched Dr. No again just recently for our podcast. I completely fell in love with it again after not having seen it for several years. What's not to love? Connery in his absolute prime, the best Bond girl of all time, amazing locations, original Fleming story. Ahhhh, I think I need to go watch it again now...though I am currently 2/3 of the way into FRWL, so I guess it'll have to wait.

    For anybody who's interested, here's our in depth discussion and review of Dr. No...

    http://jamesbondradio.com/podcast-3-dr-no-reviewed/
  • chrisisallchrisisall Brosnan Defender Of The Realm
    Posts: 17,801
    DN is my second favourite Connery Bond after TB, and it's absolutely amazing for its time.
  • QBranchQBranch Always have an escape plan. Mine is watching James Bond films.
    Posts: 14,585
    Just watched DN the other night. I stand by my above comment from three years back regarding it. Top film there.
    QBranch wrote:
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  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
    Posts: 45,489
    16 out of 21 have given it 8, 9 or 10 out of 10. Happy to see that! Certainly still a top five film. For a debut it is absolutely amazing despite the low budget and inexperience of everyone involved when it came to making a Bond film.
  • Posts: 12,526
    Have a fondness for Dr No as it is the first official film, but mainly for the reason that to me it is the one where Bond just uses his powers of investigation and just thinking on his feet! One of Connery's best for me!
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    The film has a marvellous 60's retro vibe. This is evident from the first few minutes of the film with Maurice Binder's very sexy and stylised main-title sequence. The dot motif is very well used and the whole sequence despite being very much a product of it's time has really endured. In fact the whole film has. The 60's setting with all the glamours clothes, hairstyles and makeup really give the film a marvellous chic vintage feel (the image of Sean Connery in a trilby is pretty awesome). But despite being made over 50 years ago the best complement I can really pay 'Dr. No' is that, in my opinion, it really holds up today. This is really because the storytelling is very competent and the film is well paced and still as efficient today than ever.

    I think it's hard when reviewing or discussing a Bond film not to try and compare the film at hand with the ones that have either preceded it or are still to come. For that reason I'll try to remain conscious of the fact that 'Dr. No' was the first film and at this stage there had not been an established formula for these stories. Therefore, the first thing I must state is that DN functions essentially as a black comedy. The stuff that is happening on screen is inherently at times silly and often grandiose but the film plays these moments seriously and often very darkly. For this reason the film really works as it's clear the filmmakers are having fun. Terence Young spoke about how his approach with Bond was to always have his tongue firmly in his cheek and though he took his subject seriously he wanted his audience to have fun with the film. This is something he achieved with aplomb with DN as the film is thoroughly entertaining.

    The black comedic nature of the film is evident from the first scene where Strangways is killed by three supposedly blind-men who later ferry off his corpse in a hearse. Later these same men take down Strangway's secretary; this scene in contrast with the first is actually rather dark and these two moments together really contribute towards setting the tone of the piece to follow. Later moments like Bond's chauffeur turning out to be a stooge and his death by cyanide-cigarette and Bond blasé quip about his demise further cement the film's darkly comedic intent. Even later moments like the tarantula in Bond's bed are silly but because the film plays the moment straight it's very effective and most horrific to sit through.

    Let's move on then to Bond himself. Sean Connery is the epitome of perfect casting. Bond is a difficult role to cast especially as Ian Fleming described him. Essentially Fleming's Bond is a toff and an actor in the Roger Moore/David Niven-mould would have been too alienating for audiences and would have made it difficult for them to invest in the character. Connery was perfect as on paper he's totally wrong for the part. Bond is a an upper-class sophisticated Englishman and Connery was a working-class brash Scotsman. You wouldn't hire a cockney to play a Duke but that it exactly what Harry Saltzman and Albert Broccoli did. The result payed off in dividends.

    Connery is easily as good-looking as Fleming described the character and when he seduces women it's believable that they would fall for his animal magnetism. Connery is also a rare example of an actor that not only females but also males could fawn over as his brute machoism would likely have led many men in the 1960's to walk out of the cinema with their back's straighter and chest pushed forward. I found myself often marvelling at his physique. Furthermore, Sean plays the more sophisticated side of Bond's character with ease and is incredibly insouciant, nonchalant and just plain cool, especially in the small moments like the way he lights a cigarette, walks through a casino or leans against a bar. However, there is a beast lurking beneath that Anthony Sinclair suit and he can be become incredibly rough and genuinely intimidating and menacing when the time calls for it.

    One of the great things DN did was not to tell the origin story, something the producers could have done considering this was the first film but instead they took the option to let the character hit the ground running. In the first scene we meet Bond it's clear that he's a very cool character we know he's a bit of playboy and he flirts with his boss's secretary rather cheekily and a girl in a casino. Soon after we see him get a briefing from his chief it is therefore clear that he is some kind of detective or policeman. By his third large sequence he is confronting a chauffeur with a measured degree of force. Therefore within the first 20 minutes we gradually get a measure of who this man is and what he is capable of. However, it is not until the scene with Professor Dent that Bond comes full circle and we finally see what 007 is capable of. This slow drip-feed of information to the audience is far more preferably than being spoon-fed Bond's character in exposition and the film takes it's time over it's opening hour showing us who exactly 007 really is.

    Dent's killing is the most expertly staged of the movie and Ted Moore's cinematography is very effective with the fan in the ceiling providing a very eerie effect as Dent's gun smokes in the moonlight. Here we see Bond kill a man in cold blood and it becomes clear the messy business 007 is involved in. My favourite moment about this scene is that after Bond catches Dent he does not arrest or berate the man he merely places his gun down and enters a conversation with him while lighting a cigarette. It's a very cool and nonchalant thing to do and we the audience are shocked to see Bond let his guide down in such an obvious way. However, Bond has read the situation expertly and knows that Dent has used up his bullets and throughout the scene is aware that the cards are stacked in his favour.

    Furthermore, we see other shades in Bond's character throughout the film. For instance it's rare that we see Bond disgusted or even fearful however he openly admits to being scared when in Doctor No's clutches. One of the threads that links all of Terence Young's films together is the paranoia that perennially exists in the air. In Bond's world it never pays to be too careful, when he surveys his hotel room he knows the place has been searched over, he sniffs every drink served to him and is very weary of being in any room in case it has been bugged. In addition, airports have always been a place in Young's films where someone is watching.

    The ending is also great as Bond is really left in a bad way with his back firmly against the wall. Never have we seen Bond quite as brutalised and exhausted as he is after he escapes his cell and Connery is fantastic in these moments and really sells the physical aspect of the character. These moments I think really displayed Bond at his most human in the entire series at least until we got to OHMSS and CR.

    As I have said the film is very entertaining and I enjoyed it immensely. There is little glaringly wrong with the movie and the story moves so quickly that it's rare that any problems have a chance to resonant with viewers. I found myself happily being swept up in Bond's world. The film is a very fun and breezy affair even if it may not amount to anything too substantial as an end result. Therefore, it may be easy for more sniffy critics to cast it aside but there is no denying that spending two hours in the company of James Bond is a very exciting enterprise.

    The plot itself is very straightforward - Bond is sent to investigate the sudden disappearance of a fellow Mi6 operative in Jamaica. That's it really. There is some stuff about toppling American missiles thrown in for good measure but the plot is really a clothesline for the filmmaker's to string together some beautiful locations, colourful characters and inventive set-pieces. I found myself being swept up in the momentum of all this and really enjoying the inventive nature of the film. Remember of course this was the first Bond and there is definitely a blissful unselfconsciousness to the filmmaking of DN. Later films would of course unintentionally fall into the realms of self-parody.

    I can only imagine the excitement that audiences back in 1962 had when watching this film. Here was a character who openly killed people in cold blood and had sex with the most exotic of beauties. Back in those more conservative times the idea that the leading man had a sexual relationship with one woman in a motion picture was more than enough let alone three. Think back to 'North by Northwest', Cary Grant has to marry Eva Marie Saint before taking her through the tunnel, well don't expect that from 007. The Vatican apparently disapproved of DN and if anything this fact to me is more a seal of approval than anything else.

    Some have taken issue with the misogyny on show especially in the Miss Taro scene. I for one don't see the issue here, only moments earlier had she led Bond to his presumed death and it's only fair that he'd be angry with her. Furthermore, I like the scene as it perfectly displays Connery's flinty and mercurial nature as Bond and the great duality he bought to the character. One second he could be very charming and romantic and the next he could be very intimating and threatening. Another issue is the characterisation of Quarrel who at times is used for unnecessary comic-relief. It is also quite worrying that on one occasion Quarrel is literally left to carry Bond's shoes (it's with relief that in the next scene he isn't holding them - I like to think he threw them away once he realised what he was doing).

    For me the character of Doctor No does introduce something of a tonal misstep. For the most part the film has been a rather scrappy little thriller and Doctor No as a character feels a little cartoony/comic-book. The character is much more effective in the novel, however like the book the slow introduction before finally meeting him is very well done. In particular I enjoyed the scene with Bond sailing up to Crab Key for the first time and the ominous change in the score. I do love the dinner scene though, I think it's a great touch that when we do meet Doctor No he is a classy guy who treats his prisoners like guests of honour. I enjoy in particular the moment he threatens Bond while a waiter is pouring him a glass of champagne. There is clearly some homoerotic tension between Bond and Doctor No, especially on the good Doctor's side of things. This aspect makes the character slightly more unnerving as the dinner scene is basically No trying to seduce Bond after having been impressed by what he has seen of him. This is departure from the novel where No only keeps Bond alive to later put him through his obstacle-cause, in the film No seems genuinely bruised when Bond rebuffs his advances.

    The big problem for me in DN comes in the third act. For a thriller the ending is well...not really that thrilling. The film has been very tightly paced but the last part in Doctor No's reactor room is very slow moving and rather dull. For me at that point the film had really earned a better send-off and I was itching to see Connery get in another fist-fight. I think the ending could have been better done and I'd really liked to have seen Honey have escaped on her own volition like in the book (In the film she is reduced to the damsel-in-distress). After such a great and memorable entrance it's a shame that Honey does disappear into the background for the finale. We know she is a very strong and capable woman and I think the film owed her more after her fantastic initial set-up.

    As far as casting goes the film is impeccably decked-out. Ursula Andress is one of the most beautiful women in the world and is marvellous in the film. Honey is a strong Amazonian woman and her gentle flirtation with Bond and genuine chemistry with Connery leads to a very earned final kiss at the end. She's such a strong presence in the film especially at the end when she stands facing the Navy with her hands on her hips. Joseph Wiseman is very creepy and his very still stilted performance is suitably menacing. I don't think the guy even blinks or moves his head and it's all very effective. Anthony Dawson has a great hawkish face which gives him a great screen-presence when he's on. Both John Kitzmiller and Jack Lord are also very well cast and give great turns in their supporting parts. Bernard Lee is also fantastic in his small role and really in that very brief scene does a lot: immediately you know who is in charge and Lee has a real imposing presence when squaring off against Connery.

    On the technical side of things Ted Moore's photography is perfectly lush and exotic. The script is very sharply-written and often very witty. The Norman/Barry score is bang on the money. Ken Adam's sets are also great though I did find them to be the most dated aspect of the film especially the final reactor-room scenes. I really liked his 'fake' hotel set on Crab Key; there is something very artificial and eerie about that whole segment with the two nurses having a very 'Stepford Wives' quality to them. The car chase in the middle of the film is also slightly risible by today's standards.

    In summary then, DN is a thoroughly entertaining film that cemented the introduction of the Bond character with great elan and grace and not forgetting a hearty does of darkly-comedic menace. The film is breezy and fun and really the perfect opening act to the greatest film series ever and 50 years on it stands up with the best of them.
  • 4EverBonded4EverBonded the Ballrooms of Mars
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    Glad you posted this here, too. :)
    I concur with pretty much everything you said. And the last paragraph is nicely put.
  • Posts: 4,409
    I'm shocked reading through this thread to hear people complain that DN is slowly paced. I couldn't disagree more. The film moves at a very quick pace and it's simple straight-forward plot is very engaging and not particularly taxing. The film is pure cinematic entertainment.

    I'm also surprised to hear people condemning the lack of polish the film has. I'm not sure I watched the same film as others because the DN I sat through was a very classy production with no expense sparred. The film is slightly stripped back especially when compared to latter Bond entries and if anything it is better off for it as it doesn't suffer from the bloat that future 007 flicks endured.

    Personally I think the 60's retro style has really endured very well and the whole thing has a very impressive chic/cool feel. Look at filmmakers like Wes Anderson who try and recreate bygone eras in their films; well DN is a celebration of the 1960's in all it's glamour. I genuinely think if you show an audience today (whether they are familiar with the Bond films or not) they will be engaged by DN. This is really because the storytelling is very competent and the film is well paced and still as efficient today than ever.
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