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When you go into the theater you should relax, clear your head, and watch the plot unfold. Not think "they did that with this, which makes it lame." Someone shouldn't have to risk their life to please anyone, and I'm VERY happy, and most other people too, at the turnout of CR and its stunt scenes. The fact the guy was willing to fight on a foot of metal hundreds of feet above death is good enough for me. I would want strings. :P
There is an intermediary possibilty here: take a page out of THE DARK KNIGHT's playbook. For the car chase sequence, Christopher Nolan attempted to create a Tumbler rig that could actually eject the Batpod the way it is seen in the finished film. However, this was found to be largely impossible, but they managed to shoot it with a one-second CGI shot in it of when the Batpod actually ejects. It's possible that the landing on the train in BOND 23 could be done with a little bit of CGI, with everything else done by practical effects.
Of course, we don't know the demands of the scene. Like I said, landing one moving vehicle on top of another is ridiculously dangerous, but that can be downplayed a little bit. For example, if the train is travelling at low speed, or if the jump that has to be made is a short one, or if the surface Bond has to land on is flat (as opposed to the curved top of many carraiges), then the danger is downplayed. It's still a factor, of course, but there's a bit difference between Bond jumping onto a freight train that is slowing for an upcoming corner, and jumping onto the TGV on a straight section of track.
The next time you want to make an argument to disprove a point, at least pick one that actually applies. I mean, the bus getting cut in half in LIVE AND LET DIE doesn't even involve heights in the first place.
You'll also note that I said "practically every stunt", not "every stunt". There's a subtle, but important difference between the two statements that changes the meaning entirely.
I would love to see some pictures of the locations considered does anyone know where I should go.
The question is, is bad rear projection and obvious stunt doubles worse than CGI where you can see the actual actors as the characters? Six of one perhaps..?
For Dalton.
And again call me crazy Bot as long as the stunt looks amazing I could care less how it's done I watch Bond to enjoy bond not to critque film making but that's just me. And Please don't go by me I'm Looking forward to Same of Shadows Ghost Protocol and TGWDT.
Sources of the Indian Express confirm that a recce of the spot, located in the thick jungles on the state border, has already been done and the railway ministry has also given its approval. The South-Western Railway operates train services from near the waterfall.
Some issues related to shooting, however, are yet to be sorted out.
“Height is an issue. For the sequence, they require a particular height, which is not there near this spot. But they have still listed this place,” a source told the paper.
But, even though the Entertainment Society of Goa (ESG), a nodal agency which gives permission for film shooting in Goa, is yet to receive an application for the shooting, sources said the next Bond movie would be shot over 40 days from January to March.
If British super-spy James Bond comes visiting at the Dudh Sagar waterfall, he had better take care of some do's and don'ts. Local people regard it as a guardian spirit.
The crew of Bond 23, which is on the floors and will star Daniel Craig, has shortlisted Dudh Sagar as one of the locations for their January to March shooting schedule along with another location in Gujarat.
But sociologists and social historians say the waterfall Dudh Sagar, literally translated as 'Sea of Milk', is regarded as a fear-invoking deity, whom the villagers of nearby villages call 'Rakhno Dev' (protector god) and unfailingly pay obeisance to.
The waterfall, which comes thundering down a few hundred metres into a basin barely kissing a railway arch bridge, is located deep in the Western ghats, 70 km from here.
Prajal Sakhardande, a leading social historian from Goa, said, "The Dudh Sagar is a guardian spirit for the villagers of Collem. People worship it in awe."
He said a temple has also been built in its honour a short distance away.
"You are not supposed to spit when you are near the waterfall or throw non-vegetarian food into the water or shout and scream loudly. All these things are taboo at the waterfall site."
Sakhardande said these are factors that the Bond 23 crew might have to consider, if they finally choose India's sixth highest waterfall as a shooting location for their January-March 2012 schedule.
The alternative shooting locale for the stunt sequence, which reportedly involves the blond Bond Daniel Craig jumping off the train with the waterfall in the backdrop, is in Gujarat.
"The villagers of Collem (a nearby village) regard the Dudh Sagar waterfall as god itself. The waterfall, because of its sheer size and because of the fact that it provides them with water all year round, is for them a deity, whom they worship and treat with awe," sociologist Bernadette Gomes said.
Villagers say several families annually slaughter roosters as an offering to the 'Dudh Sagar Deo', seeking his protection against any potential evil.
"The sacrifice happens at the Dudh Sagar temple located a short distance from the waterfall. It is an old, old custom, which most families observe, either when they want a favour from the 'rakhno', or when they feel some trouble is plaguing them," said a local resident of Collem, who did not want to be identified.
The authorities in Goa earlier this month confirmed an interest expressed by the Bond production team for shooting a sequence for the forthcoming film at Dudh Sagar.
"They have shortlisted Dudh Sagar as one of the locations for their January to March shooting schedule along with another location in Gujarat," said Manoj Srivastava, CEO of the Entertainment Society of Goa (ESG), which issues permission for film shoots in the state.
http://ibnlive.in.com/news/will-it-be-bond-versus-goas-waterfall-deity/184443-8-67.html
Thoughts?
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So I'd say Bond will be on the train when it goes past them. The waterfall itself won't figure into the sequence - Bond won't ride his bike off them or whatever - they'll just be in the background as Bond rides the train.
I could understand the QOS procudtion team deliberately shooting the ESO observatory building without actually showing the telescopes in the background, but I can't imagine EON would pick this particular location and then ask Roger Deakins to shoot it all with his back to the falls.