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I disagree....I think the art direction, sets and costumes have a great real world texture. The film has a really rustic, live-in look and mood. Which is very fitting for the locations and politically-tinged story.
It deliberately scaled back on the 'glamour' - Apted was tuning into his documentarian instincts...
My thoughts exactly.
Yeah, I never got on board with this particular criticism. It's less shiney and glamorous for sure, but I like it nonetheless. Works pretty well in the film, I agree.
As for TND, it has a sleek techno vibe in a good chunk of its imagery which I enjoy immensely. Though, admittedly the second half of the film is not quite as visually interesting as the first. Still a very enjoyable 90s action blockbuster, though.
I find the Brosnan films far more visually appealing than a good chunk of the Glen era. I think we've just been spoiled with the Craig's era's excellence in the cinematography department so much that a lot of the more recent prior stuff pales in comparison, which is understandable.
And again, whether you like them or not, there is a distinct lack of flair during the Glen Bond films, in this regard.
I still don't think anything looks, or feels as drab as TWINE, though. The whole production feels tired. You can understand why EON decided to completely go the other way with DAD, successful, or not.
You really got the sense back then that they were having to beg people to direct the films.
The most baffling thing about TWINE's pre-production period was that Joe Dante was offered the gig. I love that director and the work he's done, but EON handpicking him for TWINE of all films just makes no sense given his background. I would have loved to see what Dante would do if he thought he could offer something, but not with TWINE.
Watching DAD is what I imagine being on LCD would be like. Watching TWINE is what I imagine being in a coma would be like.
I agree that the Glen films look stark in comparison to the films of Young, Hunt and Gilbert. CR was a return to form, but SP was awful.
Based upon the trailer of NTTD we can hopefully expect a film that brings back the vibrancy of those 60’s films.
It’s been a long day.
Wow, I've never heard that before. Intriguing. An odd consideration given the producers' aversion to using American directors at the time.
Agreed it wouldn't have made any sense for TWINE, but I also would like to see what he could've done.
+1. That’s why it’s Brosnan’s best. The 90’s were crap in terms of style.
Absolutely.
The whole concept of Renard was interesting but flawed from the start - an interesting idea that maybe shouldn't have made it all the way through to the final script. A more interesting idea maybe would be to keep the Elektra twist, but somehow have her lead Bond subtly down the path of thinking Zukovsky was the mastermind - for this to happen Coltrane's portrayal would need to have the element of menace and cynicism that was there in GoldenEye but was all but eradicated in TWINE for lines like 'Meet Nina and Verushka', 'The insurance company is never going to believe this' and 'I'm going to drown in my own caviar'.
It's part of why TWINE is my least favorite, it has very promising ideas on the table but never really uses them. It's just a very limp film.
Hell, Tarantino could have directed Brosnan and Marceau in TWINE! The screenplay is dire, but the story--the love interest is the villain--is good.
But it has so much redeeming qualities, namely the terrific locations, one of the best villains in Elektra King, a more emotional plot and story. Isn’t this everything we want from Bond? Also you have David Arnold’s score, Q’s farewell scene (perfect!) and the Thames chase. This is terrific stuff!
I mean it’s so good that Christopher Nolan basically ripped off the whole film in The Dark Knight Rises with Bane and Tallulah.
I’m really into the whole plot of Bond having to protect a former kidnapped heiress from her old captor - only for it to be revealed she has Stockholm Syndrome. In fact, it’s more complicated than that as she has both Renard and Bond wrapped around little finger. It’s very reminiscent of the Patty Hearst scandal.
Brosnan gives his best performance and there is some great action……I can’t see how this film is ‘boring’ or ‘beige’. In a post-Daniel Craig era, TWINE is due a critical reappraisal.
Also, there are some amazing girls in this film….
As far as i know the film took place over a period of around 3 weeks? If you include the period from King's death to his funeral in Scotland which was probably 10 to 12 days.
So, therefore, the film opens around 10th December, and continues through the Christmas period to new year's eve.
So, where the heck were all the Christmas decorations?
OHMSS always gave off the sense of Christmas. TWINE ignores it all until the new years eve fire works. Always bothered me.
I could be wrong here as I've only ever been to Istanbul, but isn't it fair to say that a lot of TWINE takes place in countries that don't actually celebrate Christmas as tradition?
Very true that.
Brosnan gives his most meaty performance, Marceau is an excellent villain, the Arnold score is great, Brioni delivers some gorgeous attire, the Mi6 crew is fantastic without doing SP's Scooby-Doo stuff, you get some inventive gadgets, some fine stunts and, crucially, well-written plot that does something different without winking every two seconds: "Look how we're doing something different here.".
I also agree with @Pierce2Daniel that the film deliberately goes for a more real-life look without losing its beauty. I will now probably get shot on the spot, but give me TWINE's Istanbul or Scotland over SF's.
PS, Dr. Warmflash is the only doctor in Bond's universe I wouldn't mind to have around ;)
I'd wager that TWINE does more with its three or four new ideas than most Bond films do with one or two. So the notion that it's somehow just a pile of missed opportunities is baffling to me.
This movie has just about everything I could ask for from the series and manages to do so without compromising plot. A fleming-esgue story and villain's, great action (boat chase, buzzsaw helicopter attack) fun/inventive gadgets, a great score and title song, beautiful yet unpretentious cinematography, unique location's and so on.
This one keeps me glued to the screen, there's always a great character moment/interaction, plot development or action scene keeping me hooked. Not a lull in sight.
The criticism just never ends with this one. So it's nice to see some positivity in this thread from atleast a few members.
My biggest caveat with it is the climax on the nuclear submarine, which is pretty unexciting considering the stakes, and that's all down to poor direction.
Everything else though, I agree. I think it's unfairly maligned.
I agree. I'm gonna re-watch this weekend.
But just imagine if we got set pictures like this today online. We'd be over the moon. It's Pierce actually driving the speedboat. This is really terrific stuff in my opinion