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Another prospective Wizlam follower methinks?
Nope. I'm only 007 follower :P
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I don't think it's your English he's bemused by, more the fact that anyone can think Rory is great.
And BTW I don't think Rory Kinnear is great in Bond films. For me he's a good enough to be a background recurring character.
You're English is excellent @Librarian,as the Wiz said,im just bemused.
Perfect...wasted.
Now, I find Kitchen far more annoying than Kinnear (who is very good in other roles). Michael Kitchen is..exactly the same...in every role...with an annoying habit of...pausing during line delivery.
Tanner = Foyle = Jack Turner = everyone else he has played.
He's not even good enough to be a background non speaking extra.
His line delivery is why I like him
It used to be Vauxhall Cross but who knows now ?
Take a look of what happend with Bond
Waiting on Bond after he brings him with boat.
Stil waiting on Bond. Are he expect that Bond wil return wih him.
Bond take the car.
In QOS he was not fan of Dench M. But he is fan of Q and Bond. In Skyfall he was there when new M returns with his broken arm and he was with Bond, M and Eve and looks happy then. He hated Dench M.
Moost of time he is in London exept QOS. But he was new and against Bond in that movie, till he made a switch later in SF. Tanner was worried in court scene, yes i also think he be afraid for him self.
HM Prison Pentonville is an English Category B/C men's prison, operated by Her Majesty's Prison Service. Address: Caledonian Rd, London N7 8TT.
He is serving a life sentence for crimes against the Bond franchise and for being the worst Tanner thus far.
Whoa which are the very good Rory Kinnear performances? I've got to hear this.
There's a thing about Lord Lucan on Netflix I watched the other day (craftily they have Rory posing with Christopher Eccleston on the poster so you assume he will be playing the lead) and if you read anything about Lucan he was this high living gambler who was popular and the life and soul.*
So to have him played by Rory just killed the whole thing stone dead as when Eccleston's character comes out with stuff like 'He's a great bloke and we're going to stick up for him' you find yourself thinking 'No he's not. He's a crushing bore who keeps bleating about his wife.' Now maybe that's the script's fault but it can't always be the script can it?
Watching Rory in anything is like trying to eat your way through a pack of Ryvita without being allowed a glass of water.
* In Lucan's wiki it even goes so far as to state the following:
'His profligacy extended to hiring private aircraft to take his friends to the races, asking a car dealer he knew to source an Aston Martin drophead coupé, drinking expensive Russian vodka and racing powerboats. In September 1966 he unsuccessfully screen tested for a part in Woman Times Seven, prompting him to automatically decline a later offer[why?] from film producer Cubby Broccoli, to screen test him for the role of James Bond'
I've certainly never heard anything about this in Bondian circles has anyone else? I feel sure it would've been in Helfenstein's making of OHMSS if it were true.
Good lad. Keep at it. Just think of the virgins.
Ok. ;)
Since Kitchen is very much liked as Tanner I'd say you should put that in the controversial opinion thread.
I just don't get how seriously people take all this, or Rory's performance (seemingly forgetting that he didn't write his lines or parts in the films) as if Tanner is this paradigm changing character. Even in the books that people are so upset for the films treading on in their portrayal of Tanner, old Bill doesn't really do much of anything and I never get the feeling there that he and Bond are great friends. They see each other once in a while, have lunch in the canteen once, and maybe share a joke here and there. But I never feel anything close to a friendship from them that approaches even what Bond and Felix have, which isn't a perfect dynamic either. It's like someone being offended by how Ponsonby is portrayed on screen, when she's another inconsequential character.
It's clear that Tanner in these current films isn't trying to be Fleming's Tanner, and even if he was there's really not much there to pick from anyway. An okay character, but not one of Fleming's creations to get all hot and bothered over. Rory takes what he's given and gets on with it; at the very least I find myself chuckling when he and Bond are around, and that is the ultimate purpose of his character.
He isn't there to add further charisma to a scene, anymore than Patrick Robinson was (thankfully).
Sorry Kitchen fans, try not to lose any sleep.
Ditz wasn't the right word, as people usually take that as an intellectual comment first and foremost. I just mean that in relation to Bond he can come off as very uncoordinated or amusing in a derisive way, because he's not as cool and collected as Bond and doesn't have his brass balls. The purpose of his character is to contrast with Bond in funny ways, and that's it. We can disagree about the choice to use him that way all we want, but that's what is intended by his presence.
But to further my point from the last page, I'm never seen it confirmed in the Craig films that Tanner is M's Chief of Staff. I've always taken it that he's Villiers 2.0, M's personal assistant who follows her around to note her demands and to make contact with whoever she needs orders getting to. If Tanner was the Chief of Staff we know from Fleming's books he'd have an assistant of his own, not act like an assistant to M as Tanner in the Craig films does. The role he serves doesn't fit that CoS mold.
This really is like comparing who's a better Leiter, Lord or Nutter. It's almost a competition of who out of two inconsequential characters did more than nothing on screen, a victory that could only be described as a hollow one and rather silly. How could one pick a winner from two characters who offer so little of importance in the grand scheme?
If there's a rising Kitchen fan club on here I'd be quite surprised, as there are far meatier parts in Bond history for our members to follow than the one of the man who is best known for saying a gag about the "Queen of Numbers."
I'm going to start a Pinder fan club next, and set up a fan thread for it.