The name's 25. Bond 25, or rather, it's NTTD.

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  • Posts: 12,466
    I think No Time to Die is a definite upgrade over A Reason to Die, which I was okay with. You can interpret it a couple ways, and it rolls off the tongue a bit better. I like the titles of every Craig movie, but if I had to rank them in order of preference:

    1. Casino Royale
    2. Skyfall
    3. No Time to Die
    4. Quantum of Solace
    5. Spectre
  • Fire_and_Ice_ReturnsFire_and_Ice_Returns I am trying to get away from this mountan!
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    The title lends to an easy lyric with the title song
  • edited August 2019 Posts: 624
    The title lends to an easy lyric with the title song

    Remember when I said to say goodbye?
    You looked at me and said there's... no time to die!
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
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    The die is cast.
  • No Time (Sponsored by Omega Watches) to Die

    The marketing for Omega is endless with this title!
  • 00Agent00Agent Any man who drinks Dom Perignon '52 can't be all bad.
    edited August 2019 Posts: 5,185
    It's funny, just a couple days ago i was thinking of possible Bondian titles and all of a sudden Predator came up in my head and Jesse Venturas "I ain't got time to bleed", and i thought about it for a couple seconds and even though it doesn't sound very bondian it's just the most macho thing ever....

    And now i am wondering if NTTD will have a scene with Bond, being shoot multiple times, bleeding out, Madeline looking at him going "you're hit, you're dying man" he looks straight at her and says "I got No Time To Die" and jumps back into action lol.
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    The title lends to an easy lyric with the title song

    Remember when I said to say goodbye?
    You looked at me and said there's... no time to die!

    I think I'm going to cry.

  • vzok wrote: »
    The title lends to an easy lyric with the title song

    Remember when I said to say goodbye?
    You looked at me and said there's... no time to die!

    I think I'm going to cry.

    Need a tissue for your eye?
  • DragonpolDragonpol https://thebondologistblog.blogspot.com
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    vzok wrote: »
    The title lends to an easy lyric with the title song

    Remember when I said to say goodbye?
    You looked at me and said there's... no time to die!

    I think I'm going to cry.

    Need a tissue for your eye?

    Don't give up the day job! ;)
  • edited August 2019 Posts: 5,767
    00Agent wrote: »
    It's funny, just a couple days ago i was thinking of possible Bondian titles and all of a sudden Predator came up in my head and Jesse Venturas "I ain't got time to bleed", and i thought about it for a couple seconds and even though it doesn't sound very bondian it's just the most macho thing ever....

    And now i am wondering if NTTD will have a scene with Bond, being shoot multiple times, bleeding out, Madeline looking at him going "you're hit, you're dying man" he looks straight at her and says "I got No Time To Die" and jumps back into action lol.
    Haha, I had the exact same thought :-))!



    Dragonpol wrote: »
    vzok wrote: »
    The title lends to an easy lyric with the title song

    Remember when I said to say goodbye?
    You looked at me and said there's... no time to die!

    I think I'm going to cry.

    Need a tissue for your eye?

    Don't give up the day job! ;)
    Wow! Now THAT would be a terrific Bond film title!




    Calling NTTD bland and uninspired is a bit like calling a four minute pop song primitive.




    On the other hand, I don´t feel good about the fact this title inevitably refers again to Bond´s significance, which is bad bad bad.
  • Posts: 4,044
    vzok wrote: »
    The title lends to an easy lyric with the title song

    Remember when I said to say goodbye?
    You looked at me and said there's... no time to die!

    I think I'm going to cry.

    Need a tissue for your eye?

    Goldeneyyyyyyye
  • 4EverBonded4EverBonded the Ballrooms of Mars
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    Happy with the title. It's solid Bond.
  • Posts: 2,917
    Happy with the title. It's solid Bond.

    More like solid Columbo.
  • Dragonpol wrote: »
    vzok wrote: »
    The title lends to an easy lyric with the title song

    Remember when I said to say goodbye?
    You looked at me and said there's... no time to die!

    I think I'm going to cry.

    Need a tissue for your eye?

    Don't give up the day job! ;)

    Hey, it's better than the song Sam Smith famously wrote in 15 minutes. :))
  • BennyBenny Shaken not stirredAdministrator, Moderator
    Posts: 15,134
    I have no problem with the title 'No Time To Die'
    If you'll forgive me, it's much better than most of the suggested titles that have been mooted around here. It's got a Bondian feel too it, and let's be honest. No matter what EON came up with, it was never going to appease everyone.
  • DoctorNoDoctorNo USA-Maryland
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    Okay this does give a nice historical link so it’s growing on me:

  • edited August 2019 Posts: 2,917
    Birdleson wrote: »
    It means that of the four titles that are unrelated to Fleming or from Fleming (TND, DAD, SF, NTTD), three have the word "DIE" in the title. 3 out of 4; that's a joke.

    It definitely doesn't reflect well on the screenwriters, considering all the time they've had to think of a title. But I'm inclined to believe a title this bland was probably the result of group-think among the producers and studio higher-ups--I would like to think that professional writers wouldn't hack out something so robotic and pseudo-Bondian as No Time to Die.
  • matt_umatt_u better known as Mr. Roark
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    Birdleson wrote: »
    Fleming used the term "Die" in one title, and now it seems to have become the fall back word. With that and the continuation of elements from SP, they're batting 1000 with me.

    NTTD doesn't sounds like ANY other Craig era films. You should blame the Brosnan era, since both TND and DAD are quite awful and less meaningful titles than NTTD.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    Benny wrote: »
    I have no problem with the title 'No Time To Die'
    If you'll forgive me, it's much better than most of the suggested titles that have been mooted around here. It's got a Bondian feel too it, and let's be honest. No matter what EON came up with, it was never going to appease everyone.

    No doubt there, and while I do really like the title, I can agree with @Birdleson that it has quite a fan-fiction flair to it. However, it's not a one word S-title and it gives me Brosnan vibes. I'm more than happy with it, let's just hope that the film itself is great.
  • matt_umatt_u better known as Mr. Roark
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    Honestly NTTD gives me more Live and Let Die vibes, as a title. Especially since that deliberately retro font.
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    matt_u wrote: »
    NTTD doesn't sounds like ANY other Craig era films. You should blame the Brosnan era, since both TND and DAD are quite awful and less meaningful titles than NTTD.

    Die Another Day has a similar meaning to No Time to Die though.

  • matt_umatt_u better known as Mr. Roark
    edited August 2019 Posts: 4,343
    Revelator wrote: »
    matt_u wrote: »
    NTTD doesn't sounds like ANY other Craig era films. You should blame the Brosnan era, since both TND and DAD are quite awful and less meaningful titles than NTTD.

    Die Another Day has a similar meaning to No Time to Die though.

    100%, but it doesn't feel cheesy like the Brosnan one, at least to me. Plus, the Cubby nod is a nice touch and the logo is wonderfully vintage.
  • RichardTheBruceRichardTheBruce I'm motivated by my Duty.
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    Closest mention I found in Fleming. Not a real match.

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    For Your Eyes Only, Ian Fleming, 1960.
    "The Hildebrand Rarity
    "
    Fidele Barbey, the youngest of the innumerable Barbeys who own nearly everything in the Seychelles, came up and stood looking down at the ray. "That's a good one. Lucky you hit the right spot or he'd have towed you over the reef and you'd have had to let go your gun. They take the hell of a time to die. But come on. I've got to get you back to Victoria. Something's come up. Something good. I'll send one of my men for the gun. Do you want the tail?"

    Bond smiled. "I haven't got a wife. But what about some raie au beurre noir tonight?"
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  • Posts: 12,466
    A few more random thoughts about the title:

    -Fourth title to feature “Die,” which definitely cements it as a classic trope for the series. Some may find this repetitive or off-putting, but I’m cool with it. Gives it a sense of familiarity. After all, death is a huge part of these films!
    -Thinking about it, I’m surprised it’s the first Bond to feature the word “Time” in it. Glad the title was NOT “All the Time in the World.”
    -There were many inferior title possibilities. Shatterhand has classic Bond significance, but would have been the third consecutive one-word S title. At least the last one to have “Die” in the title came back in ‘02. A Reason to Die got an upgrade with this official title. Any of the stuff with Genome just would have came off as awkward for a final title, as interesting as the concept is. And most importantly it was NOT “Swansong,” which to me was the worst suggested Bond title I’ve heard (not trying to come off as mean to whoever started it, just have a strong dislike of it for many reasons).
    -My first choice was The Property of a Lady, and Risico second, but I’m happy with what I got. After all, Fleming’s remaining titles can be used at any given time down the road.
  • Posts: 12,466
    Birdleson wrote: »
    What a reversal. Five years ago I was one of only a very few that what were happy with the title SPECTRE (of course I hated the actual film). Now I seem in a very small group disliking this current one.

    I’m sorry you’re not into it @Birdleson. Hopefully you can have a reversal of the SP experience though by not liking the title but enjoying the actual film, which matters most!
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    Birdleson wrote: »
    What a reversal. Five years ago I was one of only a very few that what were happy with the title SPECTRE (of course I hated the actual film). Now I seem in a very small group disliking this current one.

    We're in the minority but not a very small group, I hope. There's currently a poll on the Commander Bond forum regarding the title, with the following results:

    43% "Like it"
    35% "I'm not sure, bit generic?"
    10% "It Will Grow on Me"
    8% "I've No TIME For It. Do You see What I Did There?"
    4% "Remain"

    So the majority over there is actually not crazy about it. The "Like It" category might be larger on this board, but tant pis.
  • edited August 2019 Posts: 676
    It's not great. Not terrible either. They were shooting themselves in the foot if they picked A Reason to Die - "Newest 007 movie gives the series a reason to die." No Time to Die suggests the opposite - I've already seen the headline "Daniel Craig has no time to die."

    However, it's just not clever and (as others have noted) it means basically the same thing as Die Another Day and Tomorrow Never Dies (which should have been Tomorrow Never Lies). What's next? Yesterday Didn't Die? Die Next Week? Won't Die on a Tuesday?

    Perhaps No Reason to Die would have been slightly more interesting.
  • edited August 2019 Posts: 1,661
    I believe you can make a compelling case this is the height of cynical film making decisions. To keep rehashing the same sort of title over and over again and expecting the fanbase and casual audience to lap it up.

    TOMORROW NEVER DIES

    DIE ANOTHER DAY

    and now

    NO TIME TO DIE

    Indeed, you could argue NO TIME TO DIE means the same as DIE ANOTHER DAY. If you have no time to die then you won't die right now, you'll die another day. It's more-or-less the same title. And what's with this obsession with dying? Ian Fleming had one title with 'die' in the title: LIVE AND LET DIE. That was a clever twist on the adage LIVE AND LET LIVE. See, Fleming was clever and imaginative. He didn't keep rehashing the word die in other titles because he was clever and imaginative. There's no reason to keep rehashing 'die' or 'dies'. I do think

    DEATH TO SPIES

    is a cool title but even I would concede it's another title about dying! I think DEATH TO SPIES sounds more dramatic than NO TIME TO DIE.

    I think the repetitive use of 'die' is reason enough to question the decision making of Eon and MGM. It's not clever nor imaginative. Perhaps it is time for the franchise to move on with new owners. The 60th anniversary would be the ideal time for change.

  • RichardTheBruceRichardTheBruce I'm motivated by my Duty.
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    Milovy wrote: »
    They were shooting themselves in the foot if they picked A Reason to Die - "Newest 007 movie gives the series a reason to die."
    That's pretty much what they did with Skyfall (The Sky Is Falling), baiting detractors. Not automatically a bad thing.

    Then the pluses you suggested for No Time To Die, as applied to Craig or hopefully more Bond not having time to die. The mission!

    It will soon become familiar enough to be canon. If that's not automatic at this point.

  • Posts: 676
    Milovy wrote: »
    They were shooting themselves in the foot if they picked A Reason to Die - "Newest 007 movie gives the series a reason to die."
    That's pretty much what they did with Skyfall (The Sky Is Falling), baiting detractors. Not automatically a bad thing.
    Eh, I never saw a single headline where Skyfall's name was used to disparage the movie. Also not sure how such a headline would be written. I rarely even saw Bond fans acknowledge the "sky is falling" reference.
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