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Feel free to speak for yourself. But please, don't speak for "anyone."
I really rather agree with Murdock. And Willy.
I don't find Zimmer to be very creative or outstanding.
I could not play the Man of Steel. But I listened to Interstellar and it is much the same. Nothing to get excited about.
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All I said was I'd take Williams over Zimmer.
You're the one who then had a hissy fit over it.
But I respect all opinions.
No, I respect your opinion, and I won't argue over taste. But I will argue than you can't speak for anyone.
Over and out.
I missed this quote.
What was that about a weak argument?
Exactly. We shall most like have Newman again. Though I would be happy with Arnold.
Because everybody is ripping off Zimmer these days. It's sad that the days of movie scores with epic memorable themes are about dead. I'm glad I'm learning how to write music. I'm writing the theme song to my own movie and even it has more heart in soul in it than anything Zimmer's done in the last decade.
Huh? I love the Williams theme. I just don't think it's very modern. There are bits that sound very dated. Feel free to argue otherwise. Or just leave it. I'm not trying to prove you wrong, mate.
Then you should probably feel miserable when reading this:
"Hans Zimmer – Net Worth: $90 Million"
http://www.therichest.com/expensive-lifestyle/money/making-millions-5-makers-of-movie-music/4/
And if keeping "modern" and creative indeed is a priority, then Newman certainly is a given choice...
Why should I feel miserable? I don't give a crap. Your attempt to provoke me is rather useless. If you enjoy mediocrity then you go eat it up like the rest of the sheep. ;)
Zekidk, please give it a rest. No one is saying Zimmer hasn't earned money, had a long career, made some memorable music (for some that means years ago). This thread should not turn into an argument about him.
Eh... okay. Fine with me. Good luck with your own project which "has more heart in soul in it than anything Zimmer's done in the last decade."
And sorry if you think I wanted to provoke a discussion. That wasn't my intention.
I agree regarding that observation. Action music has become very generic during the last couple of decades.
Regarding Bond music especially, I think it's important that the composer either writes or contributes to the arrangement of the theme song. That's one of the areas where Newman's score was really lacking. There's only one real moment when the theme song is utilized, and that is probably my favourite part of the soundtrack. We should have gotten more of those moments! Throughout the history of Bond music, the best moments are when the theme song really gets to shine in the film. In Skyfall it seems like Newman and Adele worked completely separate.
The "making of" on the Blu-Ray explains why we first get to hear variations of the main theme when Bond sails towards the Macao casino: Because they (Mendes and Newman) thought it would get the "proper impact."
They missed the mark IMO, and I agree with you entirely.
On another note: I was watching 'Cars 2' with my son the other day, which has this Aston Martin spoofing Bond. There's usually a very significant score attached to every scene the Aston Martin is in (you can find in on youtube quicky) and when my son said "it sounds like James Bond" I thought John Barry.
Isn't it a part of the formula, that composers should adapt to this "sound" rather than creating their own unique style, which will either sound dated by time (Bill Conti) or just out of place (Eric Serra)
At least Arnold understood/understands this. I'm not sure Newman does.
That's a shame! That theme tune was one of the best in decades, and would have deserved to be an even stronger reference point for the film.
Zekidk said: On another note: I was watching 'Cars 2' with my son the other day, which has this Aston Martin spoofing Bond. There's usually a very significant score attached to every scene the Aston Martin is in (you can find in on youtube quicky) and when my son said "it sounds like James Bond" I thought John Barry.
Isn't it a part of the formula, that composers should adapt to this "sound" rather than creating their own unique style, which will either sound dated by time (Bill Conti) or just out of place (Eric Serra)
At least Arnold understood/understands this. I'm not sure Newman does.
Yes, that has been talked about on other threads, too. Adele and Newman definitely worked separately and Newman did not want to incorporate the Bond theme song into the film a la Barry's template. Arguments ensued. He was (surprising to me) really not involved 100% with the piece I love that does include a snippet of the theme song, the section named Komodo Dragon (Bond floats towards the casino). I forget how that was done; it is on this forum somewhere, but Newman was not a major contributor to that part. I find that whole attitude by Newman more than a little annoying. I want the composer to bring his own talents and unique style but also it is a Bond film and I want the Bondian elements there, specifically the theme song woven into the film at times (in variations) and the James Bond theme used more (not overdone, just used properly).