SPECTRE Production Timeline

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  • Posts: 4,619
    MrBond wrote:
    My hopes are still up for Emmanuel Lubezki as the DoP. Look no further then "The Tree Of Life" or "Children Of Men" to see that he got the talent!

    It won't be Lubezki. Hoyte Van Hoytema is the cinematographer of Bond 24.
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    MrBond wrote:
    My hopes are still up for Emmanuel Lubezki as the DoP. Look no further then "The Tree Of Life" or "Children Of Men" to see that he got the talent!

    It won't be Lubezki. Hoyte Van Hoytema is the cinematographer of Bond 24.

    I thought we all knew what happens when rumors and hearsay is stated as fact? I like to trust my friends, too, but I don't count on them to always be right.
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    IF true, that would be quite cool.
  • marketto007marketto007 Brazil
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    Just testing some flat design using the Bond 24 logo. :)

    Bond24_Marketto_FanArt_Flat001.png
  • Posts: 5,745
    REALLY like the subtle shadowing @marketto007

    That almost looks.. commissioned...
  • Posts: 15,125
    Time for another font debate, while we are waiting for some news?
  • QBranchQBranch Always have an escape plan. Mine is watching James Bond films.
    edited July 2014 Posts: 14,585
    Exactly. What's everyone's favourite Bond font? And can we get a poll for this please, mods.
  • tqbtqb
    Posts: 1,022
    comic sans!
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    tqb wrote:
    comic sans!

    Yeah, if Bond is rescuing children in an elementary school that have been taken hostage!
  • marketto007marketto007 Brazil
    edited July 2014 Posts: 3,277
    Looks like the stunt coordinator Gary Powell is extremely excited with Bond 24. Here is an interview he gave to Jon Auty for Behind The Stunts.



    He basicaly talks about his career in the Bond franchise and other movies. But the main part of the interview begins in 23m25s, where he talks about Bond 24.

    "The outline is gonna be freaking fantastic"

    "If Skyfall was Sam Mendes's way of getting his feet wet into the Bond franchise, this one his jumping into deep end"

    :D

  • RC7RC7
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    "If Skyfall was Sam Mendes's way of getting his feet wet into the Bond franchise, this one his jumping into deep end"

    :D

    I'm sure many people will take this in many different ways, but it's the first time I've heard anyone involved with production showing even an ounce of enthusiasm, so that bodes well.
  • Posts: 11,425
    I am hoping for some really great proper old-school stunts. Non of this CGI rubbish.
  • RC7RC7
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    Getafix wrote:
    I am hoping for some really great proper old-school stunts. Non of this CGI rubbish.

    Me too and some great location work. They should have the budget on this, so no excuses.
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
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    Getafix wrote:
    I am hoping for some really great proper old-school stunts. Non of this CGI rubbish.

    I'm with you on this, @Getafix.
    I want to gasp like I did in CR. Real stunts is one of the major selling points of the Bonds.
  • Samuel001Samuel001 Moderator
    edited July 2014 Posts: 13,355
    They're going further, pushing forwards it seems and so they should. Skyfall had stunt work, but this one will likely have more, as long as they're well thought out and are a great spectacle, bring it on. Also, it's nice to see someone also confirm only the words are being tweaked.
  • Posts: 11,425
    Was the free running sequence in CR CGI free? It looked quite CGI to me in places. It's a shame these days that you cannot always tell, so sometimes a real stunt is dismissed as CGI.
  • edited July 2014 Posts: 5,745
    Getafix wrote:
    Was the free running sequence in CR CGI free? It looked quite CGI to me in places. It's a shame these days that you cannot always tell, so sometimes a real stunt is dismissed as CGI.

    I am 98% sure the only CGI used was when Craig himself was on the crane. They had it lowered to just above the ground and keyed everything out with blue screen technology. It was still on location, even. Other than that I don't believe there was anything major done.

    I was surprised to learn the scene where Bond almost hits the freerunner with the tractor was NOT CGI, just excellently timed. Also, one take!
  • Posts: 11,425
    What about when they jump from the cranes? If that was real, then it's incredible. I just assumed it was CGI...
  • RC7RC7
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    Getafix wrote:
    What about when they jump from the cranes? If that was real, then it's incredible. I just assumed it was CGI...

    It's real. It's wire-work from a higher crane.

  • edited July 2014 Posts: 5,745
    Getafix wrote:
    What about when they jump from the cranes? If that was real, then it's incredible. I just assumed it was CGI...

    Nope, real. 100%. At least on Foucan's part for sure. The heaviest visual effects (the CGI stuff, as opposed to stunt work which is special effects) are of course the sinking house, parts of the airport chase (where the police car goes flying in the air, which they did for real but recreated using CGI), and not much else.

    Edit: The commentary on the film reveals that the jump was indeed 100%. Here's link, #14 confirms it. http://filmschoolrejects.com/features/48-things-we-learned-from-the-casino-royale-commentary-kcarr.php

    The crane jump won 'James Bond's Best Stunt' in a Radio Times poll.
  • M_BaljeM_Balje Amsterdam, Netherlands
    edited July 2014 Posts: 4,520
    One action scene more close to end as in Skyfall and not so much beginning of CR iam happy. Les agression in cinematography and music. Everything also wil be based or we wil get Phil Meheux back or not and choose of locations. Pretitle of Skyfall partly whas to much DAD mixed QOS to me.

    Producers stil searching to right way of filming thins since it go wrong with DAD.
  • StrelikStrelik Spectre Island
    edited July 2014 Posts: 108
    Creasy47 wrote:
    I, for one, am still waiting for that Hoytema announcement...*taps fingers on table*.
    I'm hoping Mendes picks Hoytema too. His latest DP work on Nolan's Interstellar looks great.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    Like some of you said, I want to be wowed like I was in CR, mainly in the parkour sequence. Not so heavy on the CGI this time, please.
  • JWPepperJWPepper You sit on it, but you can't take it with you.
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    Strelik wrote:
    Creasy47 wrote:
    I, for one, am still waiting for that Hoytema announcement...*taps fingers on table*.
    I'm hoping Mendes picks Hoytema too. His latest DP work on Nolan's Interstellar looks great.

    Hoyte van Hoytema is great! He is one of the most talented DP's working and he's Dutch ;-)

  • TheWizardOfIceTheWizardOfIce 'One of the Internet's more toxic individuals'
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    Good to hear that Gary Powell is back - just hope he gets a bit more to do this time round.

    I want big stunts like we used to get in the 70s and 80s and for me SF just didn't deliver. The bike jump off the bridge and driving the JCB along the train were the only really decent stunts IMO.

    After the PTS there was nothing really jaw dropping. A tube train crashing (actually done for real but looked like a miniature) and some shoot outs. That's nowhere near enough for a modern Bond film. I don't want another QOS with pointless action scenes one after the other but when there is action Bond has to lead the way with epic real stunts.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    Good to hear that Gary Powell is back - just hope he gets a bit more to do this time round.

    I want big stunts like we used to get in the 70s and 80s and for me SF just didn't deliver. The bike jump off the bridge and driving the JCB along the train were the only really decent stunts IMO.

    After the PTS there was nothing really jaw dropping. A tube train crashing (actually done for real but looked like a miniature) and some shoot outs. That's nowhere near enough for a modern Bond film. I don't want another QOS with pointless action scenes one after the other but when there is action Bond has to lead the way with epic real stunts.

    Agreed, something massive and entertaining that you only see in Bond films: real falling out of helicopters without a parachute (no CGI), bungee jumping off a dam, ridiculous car stunts, etc.
  • QBranchQBranch Always have an escape plan. Mine is watching James Bond films.
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    Yes, SF's PTS was pretty awesome for stunts, but it never quite made me think, 'holy crap, someone is actually doing that for real!'. I want that reaction again. The CR crane jump and plane stunt finale in TLD spring to mind.
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
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    QBranch wrote:
    Yes, SF's PTS was pretty awesome for stunts, but it never quite made me think, 'holy crap, someone is actually doing that for real!'. I want that reaction again. The CR crane jump and plane stunt finale in TLD spring to mind.

    Dan fighting on top of a speeding train certainly did that for me.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
    Posts: 40,976
    QBranch wrote:
    Yes, SF's PTS was pretty awesome for stunts, but it never quite made me think, 'holy crap, someone is actually doing that for real!'. I want that reaction again. The CR crane jump and plane stunt finale in TLD spring to mind.

    Dan fighting on top of a speeding train certainly did that for me.

    That was impressive. I think the CGI aspects of the faces of Rapace and Craig being placed atop the stuntman and the CGI fall take me out of the experience a little bit.
  • TheWizardOfIceTheWizardOfIce 'One of the Internet's more toxic individuals'
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    QBranch wrote:
    Yes, SF's PTS was pretty awesome for stunts, but it never quite made me think, 'holy crap, someone is actually doing that for real!'. I want that reaction again. The CR crane jump and plane stunt finale in TLD spring to mind.

    Dan fighting on top of a speeding train certainly did that for me.

    Was it speeding? Looked like about 25mph to me and I'm sorry but half most of that fight was just two blokes standing on top of a train. After the JCB it wasn't anywhere as good as OP's train sequence. Dan standing on top of a train with safety a wire or Martin Grace literally risking life and limb just hanging on for dear life in OP - I know which I would choose.

    And two men slugging it on the back of a slow moving train is that the best we can expect from Bond? Hardly MR's parachute fight or TLD's cargo net is it?

    This is a key mistake of the Craig era for me - Dan is keen to do hîs own stunts but the only ones he can do safely can't be, by definition, that spectacular. I like having the actor visibly getting stuck in (Christ no one wants a return to the days of AVTAK) but they should not design action sequences with keeping DC in view as much as possible the key criteria. There should always be a moment in a Bond film where the only person able to do a stunt is the world leader in his field be it skiing, parachuting, driving whatever.
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