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  • Risico007Risico007
    Posts: 9,843
    details are coming soon on Risico... I mean Bond 24 (note I just wish bond 24 is risico not that I know the title)
  • Pajan005Pajan005 Stockholm, Sweden
    Posts: 432
    I hope the press conference is done the same way as with SF. Title first, then director, then cast.

    Funny how G. Wilson said that Skyfall's title was the worst kept secret in London. I think they all learned from that.. Which could mean: B24 title is secret until December.
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy My Secret Lair
    Posts: 13,384
    Although the early rumours had it as Red Sky. :)
  • nobodydoesitbetternobodydoesitbetter
    Posts: 1,021
    Hoping that for Bond 24 they use the locations to the fullest. While it is understandable for budget reasons that certain scènes are filmed in one location doubling for another/or on the backlot at Pinewood it is nice to see Bond soaking up the local atmosphere. While the sequence in Shanghai was short in Skyfall I can see why the producers didn't see any reason to send Daniel Craig there. As his scènes in these locations were mainly interiors it made sense to shoot them on the stages at Pinewood. I was watching The Man With The Golden Gun the other night and there were many scènes where Moore was on location. When he is having dinner with Goodnight in Bangkok he is there with Britt Ekland in Bangkok at the Manderin Oriental Hotel. If that was today it would probably be shot on the backlot at Pinewood. When Moore and Adams walk off the ferry in Hong Kong the scene is shot in Hong KONG.Today it would probably be filmed at a bus station near Borehamwood.Watching TMWTGG I had the feeling that all the exterior shots were filmed on location in the exotic locations featured. In DAD Pierce never stepped foot Inside a real hotel in HONG KONG. It was on the stages at Pinewood. The older films definately feel Moore like globetrotting films! SF used London and Scotland well (even if the Skyfall house scènes were filmed in England)
  • Gustav_GravesGustav_Graves
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    ufff, kind of negative article about actor Idris Elba:

    http://www.cinemablend.com/new/Here-How-Much-Idris-Elba-Hated-Shooting-Thor-2-68054.html?utm_source=zergnet.com&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=zergnet_311605
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy My Secret Lair
    Posts: 13,384
    Basically he doesn't like being left hanging about in a harness during retakes.
    I'm sure it's not fun.
    At least he didn't do a Christian Bale and ball out some lighting guy. :))
  • jake24jake24 Sitting at your desk, kissing your lover, eating supper with your familyModerator
    Posts: 10,591
    Sandy wrote: »
    Just a few minutes ago Chris Corbould tweeted this:

    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="pt"><p>Locations for Bond24 are amazing!</p>— Chris Corbould OBE (@Chriscorbould1) <a href=" November 2014</a></blockquote>
    <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

    When asked by the HMSS blog:
    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-conversation="none" lang="pt"><p><a href="https://twitter.com/Chriscorbould1">@Chriscorbould1</a>; Will we get to find out details soon?</p>— The HMSS Weblog (@HMSSweblog) <a href=" November 2014</a></blockquote>
    <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
    He answered:
    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-conversation="none" lang="pt"><p><a href="https://twitter.com/HMSSweblog">@HMSSweblog</a>; Details will be revealed soon but not by me!

    For Skyfall, the date of the press conference was announced a little less than a month before it occurred (the article on Mi6-HQ was written on Oct. 9th, and the press conference was held on Nov. 3rd, 2011. Also, Javier Bardem was confirmed on Oct. 11, 2011, so could we be expecting some major news in the next week or two?
  • PanchitoPistolesPanchitoPistoles 2.0
    edited November 2014 Posts: 4,619
    A photo of Hoytema filming Interstellar. Using the IMAX camera hand held! He is a great cinematographer but had never worked on a big budget movie before Interstellar. I think Bond 24 will definitely benefit from the things he learned while shooting that film.

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  • Suivez_ce_parachuteSuivez_ce_parachute
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    The other end of the spectrum was :

    746392deakins.jpg
  • jake24jake24 Sitting at your desk, kissing your lover, eating supper with your familyModerator
    Posts: 10,591
    Considering the lack of news, we should all abandon this forum for two weeks and come back with more information on Bond 24. :P
  • GetafixGetafix
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    Gustav_Graves wrote: »
    nobodydoesitbetter wrote: »
    Getafix wrote: »
    I don't know if the success of SF means Mendes can just get anyone he wants. There is still a funny stigma with Bond. Not sure that with the exception of the lead actors it's ever done any actor's career any huge favours.

    What would you say was the funny stigma? Of recent actors some have gone on to have some good careers in film. While they are not opening films by themselves they certainly have been cast in films with A list talent. Rosamand Pike for example who starred in the worst Bond film DAD has had a pretty good career since that film. early buzz suggests a possible oscar nomination for her stunning performance in Gone Girl. Not everyone goes onto super stardom but there are a few who have made careers out of appearing in a Bond film.

    I think what @Getafix means is the danger of being typecasted after one has performed in a Bond film. Not only that, for more established actors it was most of the time the reason not to star in a Bond film.

    Rosamund Pike back in 2002 was not a star. I love it that she's doing so well now. But being part of a Bond film always makes your acting-CV slightly "different" compared to other fantastic actors who did not star in a Bond film yet.

    You could argue that Pike's career is only just recovering from DAD. I'm not saying it set her back but I'm not sure it did her that many favours. She was an up and coming serious actress. She has done well, but not sure whether DAD was a help or a hindrance. It raised her profile but perhaps not in a good way. It led to parts in Johnie English. Tbh I am not sure that Gone Girl is the big break some might have predicted. The film is essentially a rehash of those 80s bunny boiler erotic thrillers.

    Toby Stephens career has gone nowhere since DAD. Jonathan Price ditto.

    Bardem was a coup for SF. But was he at the end of a good run or is SF the start of a new career trajectory for him? Only time will tell, but the truth is that Bond actors have tended to be unknowns who have not achieved much afterwards, or older guys with not much to prove and up for a laugh. Despite the critical accolades that SF got, I'm still not sure it's all that attractive to serious and career conscious actors. No matter how good the films, they're still looked down on I think within the industry.

    It's a strange side effect of Bond's longevity and success. Actors covet the part of Bond though.
  • bondbat007bondbat007
    Posts: 1,407
    Jonathan Pryce was and still is a very big theatre actor and also appeared in the Pirates films after his Bond stint so I don't agree that his career was hurt by Bond.
  • GermanladyGermanlady
    Posts: 6,601
    Thanks Sandy, for the corbault tweets. Nice to have a confirmation like this. I mean, he could just have said nothing, if he didn't really think so. So...yeah
  • Gustav_GravesGustav_Graves
    Posts: 11,119
    Getafix wrote: »
    Gustav_Graves wrote: »
    nobodydoesitbetter wrote: »
    Getafix wrote: »
    I don't know if the success of SF means Mendes can just get anyone he wants. There is still a funny stigma with Bond. Not sure that with the exception of the lead actors it's ever done any actor's career any huge favours.

    What would you say was the funny stigma? Of recent actors some have gone on to have some good careers in film. While they are not opening films by themselves they certainly have been cast in films with A list talent. Rosamand Pike for example who starred in the worst Bond film DAD has had a pretty good career since that film. early buzz suggests a possible oscar nomination for her stunning performance in Gone Girl. Not everyone goes onto super stardom but there are a few who have made careers out of appearing in a Bond film.

    I think what @Getafix means is the danger of being typecasted after one has performed in a Bond film. Not only that, for more established actors it was most of the time the reason not to star in a Bond film.

    Rosamund Pike back in 2002 was not a star. I love it that she's doing so well now. But being part of a Bond film always makes your acting-CV slightly "different" compared to other fantastic actors who did not star in a Bond film yet.

    You could argue that Pike's career is only just recovering from DAD. I'm not saying it set her back but I'm not sure it did her that many favours. She was an up and coming serious actress. She has done well, but not sure whether DAD was a help or a hindrance. It raised her profile but perhaps not in a good way. It led to parts in Johnie English. Tbh I am not sure that Gone Girl is the big break some might have predicted. The film is essentially a rehash of those 80s bunny boiler erotic thrillers.

    Toby Stephens career has gone nowhere since DAD. Jonathan Price ditto.

    Bardem was a coup for SF. But was he at the end of a good run or is SF the start of a new career trajectory for him? Only time will tell, but the truth is that Bond actors have tended to be unknowns who have not achieved much afterwards, or older guys with not much to prove and up for a laugh. Despite the critical accolades that SF got, I'm still not sure it's all that attractive to serious and career conscious actors. No matter how good the films, they're still looked down on I think within the industry.

    It's a strange side effect of Bond's longevity and success. Actors covet the part of Bond though.

    I tend to disagree. Especially in the past 5 years. Although big Oscar-winning actors can have the advantage of being very critical in accepting roles (they usually have easier auditions, because producers want them at every cost), money is also important.

    And especially since the rise of big cable network channels like HBO, the rise of Marvel, and the rise of Internet channels like Netflix, big actor names don't mind starring in big Marvel movies, big popular TV series (TV series have become like movie productions) or on new media platforms like Netflix.

    Especially the Internet platforms really bit off quite a chunk of market share from the older cinematic film format. On top of that, big blockbusters reach big audiences (Marvel, 3d, IMAX). And apparently big Oscar-winning actors want to be part of that. Perhaps they have developed a better eye for commercialism and marketing.

    Hence actors like Marion Cotillard and Natalie Portman, recent Oscar winners, don't mind appearing in spy blockbusters or superhero movies. And the same goes for older, established actors. Robert Redford, the founder of the arthouse Sundance film festival no less, appears in a Marvel movie. Kevin Spacey and Halle Berry, also names with "high brand value", choose to appear in TV series "House Of Cards" and "Extant".

    So I kind of understand why this trend also affects the Bond franchise. It's now more a rule, more a logical result, than an exception that big stellar Oscar-actors consider appearing in a Bond film. Moreover Barbara and Michael saw what this concoction of high profile actors and crewmembers did financially.

    Although SF is perhaps not the best Bond film, it is without a doubt the most successful and lucrative one. So I expect a similar cast for Bond 24, with at least one lead role being given to an Oscar winner or other high profile Hollywood actor.
  • RC7RC7
    Posts: 10,512
    Suivez_ce_parachute wrote: »
    The other end of the spectrum was :

    746392deakins.jpg

    I really didn't like this shot!
  • leas_moleleas_mole love is the promise of suffering
    Posts: 574
    So no Bond 24 news from Baz Bamigboye but he does report that Gemma Arterton is in the musical, "Made In Dagenham". Also that Mark Strong will be in Arthur Miller’s A View From The Bridge (again). I know Mark Strong will not be a villain in Bond 24....but lack of news!


  • doubleoegodoubleoego #LightWork
    Posts: 11,139
    Gustav_Graves wrote: »
    Getafix wrote: »
    Gustav_Graves wrote: »
    nobodydoesitbetter wrote: »
    Getafix wrote: »
    I don't know if the success of SF means Mendes can just get anyone he wants. There is still a funny stigma with Bond. Not sure that with the exception of the lead actors it's ever done any actor's career any huge favours.

    What would you say was the funny stigma? Of recent actors some have gone on to have some good careers in film. While they are not opening films by themselves they certainly have been cast in films with A list talent. Rosamand Pike for example who starred in the worst Bond film DAD has had a pretty good career since that film. early buzz suggests a possible oscar nomination for her stunning performance in Gone Girl. Not everyone goes onto super stardom but there are a few who have made careers out of appearing in a Bond film.

    I think what @Getafix means is the danger of being typecasted after one has performed in a Bond film. Not only that, for more established actors it was most of the time the reason not to star in a Bond film.

    Rosamund Pike back in 2002 was not a star. I love it that she's doing so well now. But being part of a Bond film always makes your acting-CV slightly "different" compared to other fantastic actors who did not star in a Bond film yet.

    You could argue that Pike's career is only just recovering from DAD. I'm not saying it set her back but I'm not sure it did her that many favours. She was an up and coming serious actress. She has done well, but not sure whether DAD was a help or a hindrance. It raised her profile but perhaps not in a good way. It led to parts in Johnie English. Tbh I am not sure that Gone Girl is the big break some might have predicted. The film is essentially a rehash of those 80s bunny boiler erotic thrillers.

    Toby Stephens career has gone nowhere since DAD. Jonathan Price ditto.

    Bardem was a coup for SF. But was he at the end of a good run or is SF the start of a new career trajectory for him? Only time will tell, but the truth is that Bond actors have tended to be unknowns who have not achieved much afterwards, or older guys with not much to prove and up for a laugh. Despite the critical accolades that SF got, I'm still not sure it's all that attractive to serious and career conscious actors. No matter how good the films, they're still looked down on I think within the industry.

    It's a strange side effect of Bond's longevity and success. Actors covet the part of Bond though.

    I tend to disagree. Especially in the past 5 years. Although big Oscar-winning actors can have the advantage of being very critical in accepting roles (they usually have easier auditions, because producers want them at every cost), money is also important.

    And especially since the rise of big cable network channels like HBO, the rise of Marvel, and the rise of Internet channels like Netflix, big actor names don't mind starring in big Marvel movies, big popular TV series (TV series have become like movie productions) or on new media platforms like Netflix.

    Especially the Internet platforms really bit off quite a chunk of market share from the older cinematic film format. On top of that, big blockbusters reach big audiences (Marvel, 3d, IMAX). And apparently big Oscar-winning actors want to be part of that. Perhaps they have developed a better eye for commercialism and marketing.

    Hence actors like Marion Cotillard and Natalie Portman, recent Oscar winners, don't mind appearing in spy blockbusters or superhero movies. And the same goes for older, established actors. Robert Redford, the founder of the arthouse Sundance film festival no less, appears in a Marvel movie. Kevin Spacey and Halle Berry, also names with "high brand value", choose to appear in TV series "House Of Cards" and "Extant".

    So I kind of understand why this trend also affects the Bond franchise. It's now more a rule, more a logical result, than an exception that big stellar Oscar-actors consider appearing in a Bond film. Moreover Barbara and Michael saw what this concoction of high profile actors and crewmembers did financially.

    Although SF is perhaps not the best Bond film, it is without a doubt the most successful and lucrative one. So I expect a similar cast for Bond 24, with at least one lead role being given to an Oscar winner or other high profile Hollywood actor.

    I agree with all of this word for word!

  • RC7RC7
    Posts: 10,512
    Getafix wrote: »
    Bardem was a coup for SF. But was he at the end of a good run or is SF the start of a new career trajectory for him? Only time will tell, but the truth is that Bond actors have tended to be unknowns who have not achieved much afterwards, or older guys with not much to prove and up for a laugh. Despite the critical accolades that SF got, I'm still not sure it's all that attractive to serious and career conscious actors. No matter how good the films, they're still looked down on I think within the industry.

    He's being lined up as the villain in POTC:5 so I would probably go with 'new career trajectory'. I agree that it's potentially not that attractive to serious and career conscious actors, but I think there may be a slight change in the tide, particularly if someone of his calibre is featured in B24. It seems to me that it really depends on the actors mindset and where they feel they are career wise, not necessarily that they've little left to prove, but that they feel like they have a body of work decent enough to allow them to step away momentarily. Bardem spoke of watching Bond films as a kid, the idea of joining that pantheon of greats, and if I remember rightly Amalric spoke of his kids' influence on his decision. I do think it's a nostalgia thing with some of these guys, but if the films continue along the path they are there's nothing to say that decisions won't be made from an artistic view. That said, I still prefer the idea of a decent actor saying 'yes' purely because they want to let rip and have a riotous time.
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy My Secret Lair
    Posts: 13,384
    It could also be a great chance for an actor who's known for playing in a particular genre of movie, to do something different.
  • LudovicoLudovico
    Posts: 15,106
    If I'm not mistaken, Bardem was already meant to be the villain when he was still relatively unknown.
  • ColonelSunColonelSun
    Posts: 1,490
    Ludovico wrote: »
    If I'm not mistaken, Bardem was already meant to be the villain when he was still relatively unknown.

    Bardem has been an A-list actor for many, many years. Highly respected and sort after. But having the Mendes/Craig combo does attract top acting talent, no question about it. We'll again see some strong names in Bond 24, I'm sure.

  • nobodydoesitbetternobodydoesitbetter
    Posts: 1,021
    To be honest I'm not bothered if we don't get an A list star to be the villain or the main Bond girl. The most important thing is an actor/actress with presence and chemistry with Bond. I can understand for commercial reasons why getting a "name" would be important but lets be honest here. The names Bond, James Bond is the star of these films.
  • zebrafishzebrafish <°)))< in Octopussy's garden in the shade
    Posts: 4,341
    Sam Smith neither confirms nor denies that he's been asked to perform the Bond 24 title song. But he would like to do it.

    capitalfm.com/artists/sam-smith/news/ed-sheeran-collaboration/
  • Gustav_GravesGustav_Graves
    Posts: 11,119
    nobodydoesitbetter wrote: »
    To be honest I'm not bothered if we don't get an A list star to be the villain or the main Bond girl. The most important thing is an actor/actress with presence and chemistry with Bond. I can understand for commercial reasons why getting a "name" would be important but lets be honest here. The names Bond, James Bond is the star of these films.

    I'm just stating certain facts in today's movie business. Whether you're bothered by it or not....it is a bit of a trend that high profile Hollywood actors choose to be in big commercial blockbusters (either internet platform a la Netflix or 3D/IMAX a la Marvel).

    In my personal opinion.....the best of both worlds is also nice: A) A very good charismatic actor/actress, regardless of his brand value, but that B) Happens to be a high-profile name with some Oscar nom's behind his/her name.
  • Gustav_GravesGustav_Graves
    Posts: 11,119
    zebrafish wrote: »
    Sam Smith neither confirms nor denies that he's been asked to perform the Bond 24 title song. But he would like to do it.

    capitalfm.com/artists/sam-smith/news/ed-sheeran-collaboration/

    I think Sam Smith is not my kind of stuff, especially when you compare him with Adele. Whereas Adele's compositions are truly refined, beautifully orchestrated and are helped by the wonderful soul in Adele's voice, Sam Smith for me is a way more ordinary pop-choice with no clear, stand-out uniqueness to his discography. Sam Smith for me is simply not true "Bond material", especially after hearing his music in more detail when the rumors surfaced. Then I prefer Michael Bublé (voice-wise) or Jonathan Jeremiah (now HE has a voice that marvels me).
  • RC7RC7
    Posts: 10,512
    nobodydoesitbetter wrote: »
    To be honest I'm not bothered if we don't get an A list star to be the villain or the main Bond girl. The most important thing is an actor/actress with presence and chemistry with Bond.

    I concur.
  • nobodydoesitbetternobodydoesitbetter
    Posts: 1,021
    @gustav_graves - absolutely. I am sure there are a number of A listers that would love to be in some big Hollywood franchise. I have no problem with them appearing in a Bond film. But when the cast gets announced for Bond 24 and the main villain is being played by some world class actor that has never appeared in a mainstream Hollywood production I won't be dissapointed either. I was watching a recent interview with Denzel Washington (a big A list actor and a very good actor) promoting his film The Equalizer. The interviewer brought up the subject of stars appearing in franchise films (Downey Jnr in Iron Man for example) and asked if he was interested in appearing in a big film. He said yes of course. They suggested that he could play Bond and even had a photoshopped image of Denzel on the poster from Casino Royale. Now if I remember well he does indeed say that he would probably be interested in the villain part. Now thats a great idea. I could see Denzel as the villain.
  • Gustav_GravesGustav_Graves
    Posts: 11,119
    nobodydoesitbetter wrote: »
    @gustav_graves - absolutely. I am sure there are a number of A listers that would love to be in some big Hollywood franchise. I have no problem with them appearing in a Bond film. But when the cast gets announced for Bond 24 and the main villain is being played by some world class actor that has never appeared in a mainstream Hollywood production I won't be dissapointed either. I was watching a recent interview with Denzel Washington (a big A list actor and a very good actor) promoting his film The Equalizer. The interviewer brought up the subject of stars appearing in franchise films (Downey Jnr in Iron Man for example) and asked if he was interested in appearing in a big film. He said yes of course. They suggested that he could play Bond and even had a photoshopped image of Denzel on the poster from Casino Royale. Now if I remember well he does indeed say that he would probably be interested in the villain part. Now thats a great idea. I could see Denzel as the villain.

    I saw Denzel in "The Safe House". IMO I prefer Denzel over Idris Elba and Chiwetel Eijofor. He has tons of charisma, absolute screen presence a la Bardem, and at times he reminds me of Telly Savalas also.
  • LudovicoLudovico
    Posts: 15,106
    ColonelSun wrote: »
    Ludovico wrote: »
    If I'm not mistaken, Bardem was already meant to be the villain when he was still relatively unknown.

    Bardem has been an A-list actor for many, many years. Highly respected and sort after. But having the Mendes/Craig combo does attract top acting talent, no question about it. We'll again see some strong names in Bond 24, I'm sure.

    But wasn't he considered before he won his Oscar? He was more famous than Mikkelsen and Almaric no doubt, but he was no say Tom Cruise.
  • LudovicoLudovico
    Posts: 15,106
    nobodydoesitbetter wrote: »
    To be honest I'm not bothered if we don't get an A list star to be the villain or the main Bond girl. The most important thing is an actor/actress with presence and chemistry with Bond. I can understand for commercial reasons why getting a "name" would be important but lets be honest here. The names Bond, James Bond is the star of these films.

    Agreed. There is no bigger name.
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