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@marketto007 Will we get to see it?
GG, Baron, and the Golden Gun are specific Bond items/characters, the DB5 isn't, but has become so associated that it has actually transcended to that being the first association. As far as a Lotus, eh, I'll have to disagree there. If I see a Lotus, I'm like "hey, sweet Lotus" and that's about it.
I'm definitely not misinterpreting the second though. My point is they aren't aping anything. These are consistent thematic elements. Specifically your example existed in the books beforehand and was just carried on, and continues to be carried on. I'd be way more concerned about the PTS if I had the same resistance to repetitive visuals as you, but you don't seem at all bothered by that, which I find odd as it is going to have a way more similar aesthetic as several movies before.
Pretty much my feelings.
Are you saying that the idea of a
I'm not resistant to repetitive visuals, it's unavoidable and inevitable. Stuff like the DB5 is. The excuse it's the 50th anniversary is just bullshit.
Tons of posters on the Bond sites seem to just hate the modern, gritty, darker Craig Bond and say the films are no longer Bond films. Tons of others want a totally original take on Bond and hate the references to previous Bond film plots, clothes etc. My 2 cents is that they are trying hard to make a modern Bond, but one that also clearly respects and stays within the Bond tradition EON has created for 50 years. I think they are doing pretty well with trying to balance the two ends given they now have to deal with a ton of imitators. Almost every single spy film made these days is imitating Bond in small and sometimes very major ways.
It's apparently becoming one.
I'm pretty sure the 50th anniversary wasn't an excuse for the DB5, it's been 5 of the 8 films since being used in Goldeneye, and was filmed for DAD before the sequence was cut, which would have made six. If you are that opposed to it you are going to have a pretty big row to hoe as I don't think it is going away.
I thought it had gone with QoS, alas it came back guns blazing, quite literally. Bond's personal car, fair enough. Loaded with gadgets. Give me a break.
I hope we will see a video of this.
I've not read any leaks / spoilers but it doesn't stop me speculating wildly! As the DB5 is clearly making another outing in SP maybe Q's resurrected it and showing Bond around it in it's first shakedown after the rebuild. Only for Bond to suggest he's forgotten how torturous it is to drive any distance and the run to Skyfall virtually crippled him and was the main reason he was off his game. That's OK Bond, we've got a replacement with extra refinements for you as we expected you to say this...
Enter stage left DB10 = twice the car the DB5 is!
It's rebirth is now on file for any future cameos!
Don't forget a car just as iconic and could only be Bond is PPW306R which shows not what the car is but what it does in the film! Let's see what Rome shows us in the bigger context.
James Bond se adueña de las calles del Centro Histórico
http://www.eluniversaltv.com.mx/videos/v_f52ab0dbb2b5491196fc08945298a4cf.html
Q Branch apparently humours him and helps maintain the thing.
Then with the actual reboot, Martin Campbell finesses a way to return the DB5 to Bond's contemporary setting.
I found what Mendes did with the car in SF though to be somewhat hamfisted. The steering wheel being on the wrong side was inexcusable. We fans thus have to contrive all sorts of scenarios, which would cause Bond to suddenly have a reverse-side steering wheel.
Same car, different car? Who knows. The movie wasn't going to tell us.
I thought the whole scenario was overstated, and seemed like an interlude excuse to also compartmentalize the car with the Bond theme, as apparently neither fit anywhere else, along with the opening gunbarrel etc.
Remember SF was coming off QoS, a film heavily lambasted for not feeling like a Bond film.
So I think Mendes in response, oversold the DB5 interlude, without thought to sane continuity.
But what's done is done. Now I know longer care, as Mendes is establishing serious Bond bonafides IMO with this new film, moreso than he did with SF.
SP is the Craig-era Bond film that I have been waiting for. ie Bond seems to have his mojo intact, not to mention familiar elements such as M, MP, Q and old office.
And with DB5 returning yet again in SP, clearly this is now a running gag. Re-booted Craig Bond, just like Brozzer Bond has a thing for the old car. So be it. I can roll.
I was not bothered so much, by the presence of the car in SF.
I just wanted the car's inclusion to make a little more sense, within the context of the reboot ie tie it in more obviously with what we got in CR,and not use it as some token isolated non-sensical nod to days of yore.
But moving forward, it does appear that at least SP DB5 is connected to what was left of SF DB5, so I am fine. We at least have attempt at continuity, even if is somewhat farfetched.
FWIW, I am not a huge gadgets person either.
I personally think more to associate the movies with the novels. CR was CR, of course, QOS I think channeled LALD and SF to MR, but also YOLT and TMWTGG. SP I think will echo both TB and OHMSS.
So they just do this forever, now? Sometimes things just have to be put to bed. Is Bond going to be driving a DB5 in 2064? Everything in the 21st Century is tinged with a comforting nostalgia. I don't deny the warmth of it sometimes, but it stunts creativity. Like I said in a previous post, the public don't know what they want. You can give them nostalgia, or you can risk failure by trying something new. Risk isn't popular these days. I think I'm still gutted by the failure to capitalise on the majority of CR. It's the most refreshing entry since 1969.
Yes, most likely. Thanks.
Am I the only one, who did expect a full blown Istanbul like PC?
Nice to see MGW jet-setting.
I agree. I love the 60s/70s Bonds, for their nostalgic fun. But those films have been satirized a bit much, and it is good that the 21st century Bond is grittier and more realistic.
Same.