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I do hope for an actual legit title rumor soon but lord knows I have to wait a while for that
I think this is the first official confirmation from Naomie that she will be back
this was kind of expected though considering her charater's last name I believe Harris Fiennes and Craig have contracts through Bond 25
http://skymovies.sky.com/blofeld-potentially-back-in-the-bond-series
I think we should edit the title of this as now the big rumor is Blofeld will be the villain for Bond 24
The title is now "Blofeld Isn't Coming Back.. Yet" for a few reasons:
1. Eon has spent half a billion dollars setting up Quantum just between two films. Don't expect that to fade into nothing.
2. Assuming Bond 26 is another 'Bond re-boot' with a new actor, Eon only has two films to logistically use Blofeld without confusing everyone down the road.
3. The past is the past. SPECTRE and Blofeld made the early films classics. Eon secured the rights to protect those films from another Never Say Never Again incident. It's to protect the classics, not to try to stretch them out. Move on.
I will say I would love to see Blofeld written into a timeline-sequel to Solo.
Let me slightly correct your bullit points :-). Michael G. Wilson himself said already back in October 2012 -quoted from SFX Magazine- that they -EON- have acquired the rights of 'Blofeld' and 'SPECTRE':
If he says this already back in October 2012, then there was most likely quite a process during the entire year of 2012 to actually obtain those rights from the McGlory heirs.
Then last week, November 15th, extra 'news' arrives that the actual 'Bond Battle' has been 'officially' ended. Two other official entities -owners of the Bond franchise- make it public that they acquired the rights to Kevin McGlory's characters, namely EON's mother company Danjaq. LLC and movie company MGM.
My conclusion: If Barbara Broccoli and Michael G. Wilson still follow 'Cubby's' footsteps by saying that "Bond doesn't need Blofeld", then why trying for at least two years to actually win back the rights over 'Blofeld' and 'SPECTRE' back?? Because they most likely will use crime syndicate QUANTUM, its possible successor SPECTRE and the character Ernst Stavro Blofeld for at least a longer storyline written by John Logan or even an entire trilogy: Bond 24, Bond 25 and even Bond 26.
That's my logical conclusion really. I do agree with you however that the new title is perfectly suitable for the recent news ;-).
You really believe that? One of the reasons that a 2nd NSNA was never made, is quite easy to explain. Kevin McGlory himself needed more than just Blofeld and SPECTRE. He very well saw that a 2nd NSNA -or with any other title- could work only if legal rights of using Bond, the gunbarrel and the James Bond theme, would have been allowed to him for that occassion only. A remake of a remake is lame and has a chance of becoming a flop alltogether. McGlory knew that very well.
Nah, I also think that as soon as McGlory died in 2006, EON knew they would have a chance of solving this issue alltogether.
It's a good chance that's part of the reason. Think about it. EoN not having those right would leave many people open to getting them. Like Quentin Tarantino. since he never got to Film Casino Royale like he desperately wanted, he could have tried getting the rights to Thunderball since Technically those are the rights EON just got back.
You are right on that one. So it could have been, like I said, quite a process of actually acquiring these rights ever since McGlory died in 2006.
If that's the case, then another logical thing is actually doing something with this iconic character no?
Well that's for EON to decide. not me.
Why is that?
I'm not @fjdinardo, but I don't they'll bring Blofeld back (nor do I want them to) for all the reasons enumerated. SPECTRE goes along with Blofeld, and, while Quantum is more probable (and I'd support that way more), the negative reception of QoS could steer them away from bringing them back for more films.
i agree
Still, I feel I argue 3 extremely valid points.
You just posted why I think quantum will be back re read that quote he says he thinks "quantum is still out there" and that they "might come back for bond 24"
I can live with the name QUANTUM, but QUANTUM itself needs to be changed. They need to go completely underground. Perhaps they tantalisingly need to let MI6 know that QUANTUM is finished, dead, period! Then they can re-organize themselves. Change the organisation into a more structured syndicate with clear hierarchy. Something SPECTRE always did quite well.
Also, realism is important. But don't try to make everything forcefully 'realistic'. QUANTUM or SPECTRE: Both syndicates are quite ludicrous, even for Fleming's standards. I just think SPECTRE was worked out way better than QUANTUM. SPECTRE basically streamlined and canalized FOUR important elements of criminal activities:
-> Counter-intelligence
-> Terrorism
-> Revenge
-> Extortion
If Michael G. Wilson says that these elements are slightly outdated, then I disagree. Silva's actions in 'Skyfall' were clearly an action of revenge (an element of SPECTRE). Terrorism, well, we saw that in both 'Casino Royale' and 'Skyfall'. The attack on the jumbojet in Miami was clearly a terrorist attack to get more financial stability for QUANTUM. The terrorist attack on MI6 in 'Skyfall' had its roots in revenge (Silva). And then Extortion, well clearly Dominic Greene did that with General Medrano.
You see, the elements of SPECTRE are still alive and kicking. I just hope the future crime syndicate Bond will be dealing with, will be:
A) more secretive (meeting during an opera? Really...)
B) better organized (it helps clarity among cinema visitors)
C) having a better hierarchy (paves the way for a Blofeld-like villain)
D) more threathening and sinister (do like Silva. Kill off a Bond-girl one or two)
If then the name will be either SPECTRE or QUANTUM, I don't care that much (I can remember in the German dubbed Bond films, SPECTRE was renamed FANTOM (=Phantom). Idea?). I still think 'SPECTRE' sounds a bit more sinister though :-).
Concerning Ernst Stavro Blofeld. Well, besides being a Bond fan, I'm also a proud fan of Ian Fleming. When we talk about making a Bond film more 'Fleming-esque', it doesn't always mean that the Bond films should become realistic in an almost exaggerated way.
I think, if I read carefully between the lines of what posters in here are saying, that Bond 24 could have the more light-hearted influence of Ian Fleming, then why ignoring well-crafted characters....like Blofeld?? That's like saying "Goodbye Ian. You are dead now. We do it our own way". Ignoring Blofeld IMO is ignoring an entire universe full of well-crafted recurring characters like Bond, Leiter, Moneypenny, Q, Tanner, M and indeed...Blofeld! And trust me, Michael and Barbara have shown us how to update old Fleming plots ('Casino Royale') into today's modern-day society. I wanna bet they are eager to do this with Blofeld too. Also, be a bit more proud of Fleming's legacy and that Polish/Greek psychtic he created :-).
The Q-pin is indeed an earpiece as well. Rewatch 'Quantum Of Solace'. The Q-earpieces even make this peculiar sound when they are activated in their ears.
As for QUANTUM, I hope you agree with this though. It should be:
A) more secretive (meeting during an opera? Really...)
B) better organized (it helps clarity among cinema visitors)
C) having a better hierarchy (paves the way for a Blofeld-like villain)
D) more threathening and sinister (do like Silva. Kill off a Bond-girl one or two)
For me QUANTUM would have already been more sinister, if a certain QUANTUM operative would have eliminated another QUANTUM operative. In a nasty kind of way. Perhaps during the opera scene.
http://jamesbond.wikia.com/wiki/Quantum
As for your input:
A.) Sometimes the most obvious meeting place is the best. Who would suspect a massive terrorist organization would meet at a place such as an opera? It most certainly goes away from the traditional board room meeting locale.
B.) I do agree. They threw a lot of members at us in QoS and it was tough trying to decipher who was who, who is higher up, etc.
C.) I think that goes with B, mainly, so I agree.
D.) While the plot in QoS isn't the most "threatening," it's obvious that QUANTUM doesn't prefer loose ends (White blows away Le Chiffre, albeit for the money, and they also kill Greene.)
Greene's bodyguard (or whoever he is seen is) does kill the man who falls on the car, though I suppose they don't really know who is who and that they're technically working together.
Their main goal seems to be merely financial gain. Even the terrorist acts they commit are for money, but then again, nearly every Bond villain's main scheme is for money in some way.
The only way I will be fine with Blofeld coming back is if they make a faithfull adaptation of the novel You Only Live Twice. Obvs dont call it YOLT give it a different name but use the plot of the book for the movie with a few name changes to characters
I wouldn't be surprised if they made the leader of Quantum a lady (call the film 'Property of a Lady' :) ). Gardner's 'For Special Services' actually had Blofeld's daughter as the head of Spectre. She fooled Bond, pretending to be his ally. Bond didn't discover this until the end of the book. There should be someone who is clearly in charge. It doesn't have to be revealed into the end of the film though.
In terms of SPECTRE, I have no problem with Eon bringing them back. As for Blofeld himself, unless they change his appearance (this can be done seeing we now have a complete reboot of the series) and get rid of the cat, I don't think that it would be a good idea to bring him back. The Austin Powers flicks have overplayed the image of this character and have turned him into just too much of a parody. This is presuming we even get to see the identity of the leader.
I am talking about Telly Savalas as Blofeld.
Savalas was maybe the best flesh and blood incarnation of Blofeld (the best Blofeld IMO was Erich Pohlmann, but he had the luxury of just being a voice), that said he was not perfect. Not quite anyway. The definitive Blofeld has yet to be seen on the screen. And he will be one hell of a challenge to cast. Ten years ago I would have said Ciaran Hinds, now he is getting too old.