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  • RC7RC7
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    RC7 wrote: »
    RC7 wrote: »
    What EON needs to do and fast (for Bond 25) hire a director/writer (as examples to show what I mean: Guy Ritchie/Nolan Brothers/Coen Brothers/Paul Thomas Anderson etc).

    Pre-production should already begin NOW for Bond 25. But I'm afraid it won't until late 2016.

    They will be chucking around ideas, unofficially.

    As you think Guy Ritchie is absolutely not the right person to direct a Bond film, I want to ask this. Do you have a shortlist of favorite directors you'd like to see directing Bond 25....26?

    I already mentioned it somewhere. Yann Demange, doing a really stripped back film with a new Bond. I'd also be keen to see what Joe Wright would do.

    I loved " '71". Great film. Have it on steelbook now. But ehm...I don't remember many films from him...

    What do you mean with " stripped back"?

    '71 convinced me he'd be a decent shout. I also think he did a great job with Dead Set and there was some nice work in Top Boy. I think he can work on a bigger canvas and would revel in it. I'd rather someone like him than a big name who wants to make it 'their' film.

    By stripped back, I mean a sort of back to basics approach. Think TMWTGG novel.
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    in terms of writers

    in a perfect world
    Chris Mcquarrie and Drew Pearce with a story by Ian Fleming and Michael G Wilson

    A realistic world

    Script by
    Chris Mcquarrie and Jez Butterworth

    What we will get

    Jez Butterworth, Neal Purvis and Robert Wade.
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    Real informative videoblog. So this time the Bond girls are independant, have a mind of their own, are beautiful and so forth. Well, that's a first.

    Underwhelmed. With so many lush locations why not any focus on those?
  • Why are people hyping so much about Jez Butterworth when we have no idea what he actually contributed?
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
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    Why are people hyping so much about Jez Butterworth when we have no idea what he actually contributed?

    With a name like that, he must be worth the butter.
  • BondJasonBond006BondJasonBond006 on fb and ajb
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    Butterworth is like the last straw people's hopes are hanging on to that the story might be written properly this time.
  • RC7RC7
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    Butterworth is like the last straw people's hopes are hanging on to that the story might be written properly this time.

    Butterworth hasn't 'written the story'.

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    But his wife -- Mrs. Butterworth -- has some syrupy-sweet tales to tell. :-j
  • mcdonbbmcdonbb deep in the Heart of Texas
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    He has an excellent reputation ...and I think the consensus from the leak freaks of which I'm one is that he fixed what needed to be fixed.

    Plus you Sony/Eon bashers they messed up sure but they didn't go into production until they had an agreed upon script.

    Its still a long way from script to screen and much to director interpretation. QoS may have looked a lot different on paper ...imagine if Mendes would have filmed that? I'm not knocking Foster btw. Misfire yes but he did attempt to elevate Bond artistically and a lot of thought and vision went into that.

    We are so stressed here ...I can't wait til October so some of the tension can subside.
  • edited August 2015 Posts: 832
    because the script is actually really good, or at least better than sf's, which produced a very good movie, and he is an explanation for that.
  • BondJasonBond006BondJasonBond006 on fb and ajb
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    @mcdonbb

    You're right, we should show a little more respect to Butterworth. I'm sure he contributed in a positive way to Spectre.

    EON (BB + MGW) can redeem themselves if Spectre is an artistic success. They have lost of lot of trust from many fans. Personally I'm cross with them (well, BB) for wanting Mendes again at all cost. It has cost us fans one year and that year could have meant that Craig could have done 6 movies. 2014, 2016, 2018.
    And I am 100% certain that would have been possible. Other studios can do it with much bigger movies, so why can't EON. There is simply no excuse.
    The reality seems to be that Bond 25 will hit the theaters at the end of 2018. I don't believe in a 2017 release. And even if they manage to do it by 2017 it will be Craig's last movie.
    I'm cross with them, did I mention that? Spectre better be another Casino Royale, OHMSS or FRWL!!!
  • RC7RC7
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    Ottofuse8 wrote: »
    because the script is actually really good, or at least better than sf's, which produced a very good movie, and he is an explanation for that.

    I'll be intrigued to finally read the old scripts once the film is released. It's not that I don't trust users on here, but I do wonder how many are versed in script reading and can spot a genuinely decent script from a seemingly decent one. Also, everyone has different criteria in mind regard their expectations from a Bond, so for people saying it's 'really good', it may well be in their mind. Whether it's actually great, I'll have to wait and see if it is for me. I hope it is, naturally.
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    RC7 wrote: »
    Ottofuse8 wrote: »
    because the script is actually really good, or at least better than sf's, which produced a very good movie, and he is an explanation for that.

    I'll be intrigued to finally read the old scripts once the film is released. It's not that I don't trust users on here, but I do wonder how many are versed in script reading and can spot a genuinely decent script from a seemingly decent one. Also, everyone has different criteria in mind regard their expectations from a Bond, so for people saying it's 'really good', it may well be in their mind. Whether it's actually great, I'll have to wait and see if it is for me. I hope it is, naturally.

    You should check out Bill Koenig's Spy Blog. He collects draft screenplays from every Bond film. And the latest ones he analized were drafts from TMWTGG, TWINE, TB and YOLT:

    "TB":
    https://hmssweblog.wordpress.com/2015/07/13/our-thunderball-script-posts-in-one-article/
    https://hmssweblog.wordpress.com/2015/07/10/1961-eons-first-try-at-a-thunderball-script/

    "TWINE":
    https://hmssweblog.wordpress.com/2015/07/19/1998-the-purvis-wade-era-begins/

    "TMWTGG":
    https://hmssweblog.wordpress.com/2015/07/22/1974-maibaums-1st-try-at-scripting-a-moore-007-film/

    "YOLT":
    https://hmssweblog.wordpress.com/2015/08/03/1966-roald-dahl-finds-twice-is-the-only-way-to-live/
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    Today is the first day I got the feeling we're in for a very special film. The girls look beyond stunning. Lea may beat back Eva Green for my favorite Bond girl. She's also interestingly in a white outfit very similar outfit to Eva's red Venice outfit.
  • RC7 wrote: »
    I'll be intrigued to finally read the old scripts once the film is released. It's not that I don't trust users on here, but I do wonder how many are versed in script reading and can spot a genuinely decent script from a seemingly decent one.

    The leaks do not contain the Logan-Mendes script/treatment (but we have some old notes on them, and well, not as much as some think), we only have several versions of the script after it, when they started to keep this and that, and throw this and that. And sometimes we were left with half of this and that !

    As people here know I'm more a Bond fan than a SF fan, most won't really care of my negative opinion of the SP scripts, but I think I was not the only one to have written in the leaks thread there were not so great.. In particular in the earliest one we got, there was a weird plothole about the villain's behaviour of SF proportion IMO - no spoiler, I'm talking about something that has completely disappeared from further scripts. Or at least, half disappeared :)
  • Red_SnowRed_Snow Australia
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    I completely forgot that they were also shooting at the Appia Street and this beautiful Villa Fiorano (just outside Rome) where it leads to:
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  • BondJasonBond006BondJasonBond006 on fb and ajb
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    Red_Snow wrote: »

    Thanks for posting this.

    The future doesn't look bright for MGM it seems. Why Sony didn't make a deal for a longer period of time escapes me. Now everything is up in the air and that's not good.

    Who knows if Spectre will not be the last James Bond movie for another 4-6 years.

    In any case, once people have taken their seat at the movie theatre to watch Spectre they should cherish every second of it.
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    After reading that article I'm a nervous wreck as to when Bond 25 may come out and Spectre hasn't even hit theaters yet. I think we're looking at a 4 year gap again
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    If we're looking at another four year gap once again, then we may be looking at a new Bond after SP is released. Craig will be past 50 once filming would start on B25, so who knows.
  • DaltonCraig007DaltonCraig007 They say, "Evil prevails when good men fail to act." What they ought to say is, "Evil prevails."
    edited August 2015 Posts: 15,713
    If stuff like this keeps happening, they should really cast an actor in his early 30's as Craig's successor. That way he can make 5 movies with 3/4 gaps between each outing before reaching 50 years of age. At this rate in the 1970's, Moore would have done only 4 films before 1984.

    @Creasy47 if, pray tell, that happens, we could have a very long gap, because for a start Craig would quit after waiting 2/3/4 years without production getting greenlight, and then we would still be atleast 3 years away from the film, with no clear candidates as Bond 7, it will be a long search. So I really hope Bond 25 is unaffected by this and Craig comes back in 2017/2018.
  • doubleoegodoubleoego #LightWork
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    I think that things will be fine for Bond 25 and will be out at the extreme latest by 2018 but I'm hopeful and trusting in a 2017 release.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    Well with the way the production has gone on the last few films, coupled with these new studio issues, I definitely don't see us receiving Bond 25 by 2017. It'd be a nice surprise, though.
  • DaltonCraig007DaltonCraig007 They say, "Evil prevails when good men fail to act." What they ought to say is, "Evil prevails."
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    Mission Impossible 6 is coming in 2017, no reason that EON can't make Bond 25 for that year too. If Cruise and co makes a film just as good as the 4th and 5th within a 2 years gap, I will be disappointed that EON has not been able to make a film that quickly since 2008.
  • BondJasonBond006BondJasonBond006 on fb and ajb
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    Mission Impossible 6 is coming in 2017, no reason that EON can't make Bond 25 for that year too. If Cruise and co makes a film just as good as the 4th and 5th within a 2 years gap, I will be disappointed that EON has not been able to make a film that quickly since 2008.

    Tom Cruise is probably the most capable, best and talented producer/actor of our times.
    I wish he would run EON.
    It just shows that the best times of BB + MGW are long gone.
    I don't mean the quality of the movies, but the whole production process from start to finish.
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    fjdinardo wrote: »
    After reading that article I'm a nervous wreck as to when Bond 25 may come out and Spectre hasn't even hit theaters yet. I think we're looking at a 4 year gap again

    Come on guys. We knew that a long time. MGM has become a B-Listed movie company ever since they made bad choices. Hence why they always need to team up with a big co-producer and distributor.

    It's very simple really, EON Productions becomes more powerful this way. They have more negotiation power. So whatever movie company will follow up Sony as distributor/financer, Universal Pictures (already distributing the Bond films in some European countries) or Warner Brothers (owns the rights to Ian Fleming's U.N.C.L.E. and has already good relationships with MGM), MGM will always agree. They can't be tough negotiators now. Bond needs to go on to bring in cash. And MGM knows that.

    So I'm not worried about this :-). Bond 25 will premiere in either 2017 or 2018. Period.

    Secondly, did ANYONE actually SEE the pictures I posted about Villa di Fiorano? It's a stunning villa! Wonderful bit of location shooting.
  • BondJasonBond006BondJasonBond006 on fb and ajb
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    @Gustav_Graves

    I admire your optimism.
    History has taught us otherwise when it comes to EON/MGM.

    So not to worry at all about this is kind of starry-eyed.
  • doubleoegodoubleoego #LightWork
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    fjdinardo wrote: »
    After reading that article I'm a nervous wreck as to when Bond 25 may come out and Spectre hasn't even hit theaters yet. I think we're looking at a 4 year gap again

    Come on guys. We knew that a long time. MGM has become a B-Listed movie company ever since they made bad choices. Hence why they always need to team up with a big co-producer and distributor.

    It's very simple really, EON Productions becomes more powerful this way. They have more negotiation power. So whatever movie company will follow up Sony as distributor/financer, Universal Pictures (already distributing the Bond films in some European countries) or Warner Brothers (owns the rights to Ian Fleming's U.N.C.L.E. and has already good relationships with MGM), MGM will always agree. They can't be tough negotiators now. Bond needs to go on to bring in cash. And MGM knows that.

    So I'm not worried about this :-). Bond 25 will premiere in either 2017 or 2018. Period.

    Secondly, did ANYONE actually SEE the pictures I posted about Villa di Fiorano? It's a stunning villa! Wonderful bit of location shooting.

    I'm in complete agreement with you, @Gustav. Also, those images are stunning and only reinforces the lengthy post I made earlier about sparing no expense for SP and US actually seeing it. As it is, SP in my eyes is tracking to be at the very least as good as CR from an aesthetics and atmospheric point of view.
  • marketto007marketto007 Brazil
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    Wonderfull place to visit @Gustav_Graves. Can't wait to visit Italy someday and take some snaps there. Thanks for sharing.
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    Bond is a cash cow. Why starve it?
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