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  • Samuel001Samuel001 Moderator
    edited February 2014 Posts: 13,355
    Fantastic work P2D. Here's hoping.
    Deakins did outstanding, beautiful, and at times stunning work in Skyfall. He did a far from ordinary job on that film. There are other good cinematographers/directors of photography - I just want another top quality person in that role. I would be happy if we got confirmation of that soon. I hope we get news in spring ... I cannot remember what is usually announced early on. Some of you will recall that better than I.

    Location rumours come first, perhaps with news of action scenes based there. Don't rule out casting one of two roles early on as well.
  • Freddie Young was a latter-day Roger Deakins.
    Well, one has no academy award, and one had three, but somehow I guess this criteria only applies when needed :) Or let's say one did "Lawrence of Arabia", and one did not :)

    The history of Bond Director Of Photography could be told like this also :

    From DN to TMWTGG, every DOP ended his carrier with at least one academy award, except for the DOP of OHMSS. From TSWLM to SF, no DOP ever got an academy award, except for the DOP of TND.

    One could say it "explains" why the 60's Bond still look like movies nowadays, while the 80's Bond look more dated.. but it's far from being a rule. I don't think TND would be amongst the first choice of anyone asked about the best looking Bond movies...

    And in defense of Phil Meheux, let's not forget the Campbell/Meheux pair made GE and CR, they are part of the crews that somehow saved Bond twice, if they had been people with no talent, Deakins may not even have the opportunity to work on Bond...


  • And in defense of Phil Meheux, let's not forget the Campbell/Meheux pair made GE and CR, they are part of the crews that somehow saved Bond twice, if they had been people with no talent, Deakins may not even have the opportunity to work on Bond...


    I was not aware of a Meheux backlash? His work on GE and CR is fantastic. Action cinematography is a hard thing to master and Meheux has great skill at it. Roger Deakins may have won plaudits for his work on 'Skyfall', but Mehuex’s lighting and camerawork in CR is great and the movie is beautifully glossy, opulent and stylised. It’s by far one of the greatest looking Bond movies. The same can be said of GE.

    The only issue with CR I do have is that out-of-context some of the shots do look a little on the bright side. However, Mehuex was clearly trying to give the film a glossy wealthy feel which made the whole thing work very well.


  • Samuel001Samuel001 Moderator
    edited February 2014 Posts: 13,355
    Here, Judi Dench says she wishes she got a chance to sort James Bond out:

    http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/judi-dench-wishes-shed-fixed-682234
  • edited February 2014 Posts: 2,015
    I was not aware of a Meheux backlash?

    There isn't. But Gustav_Graves wrote that Deakins stirred interest into the cinematography of Bond, "something Phil Meheux ('Casino Royale') and Dennis Gassner ('Quantum Of Solace') could only dream off". And I tried to explain to him, that with such comments, his opinions are not very popular, even if he thinks he can "prove" them as facts (thanks to Academy Award nominations, box office figures, etc.)

    Does this shot ring a bell about Skyfall ? :)

    ac1206_CR_08.jpg

    Phil Meheux may also be the only DOP of a B&W scene in a Bond movie for a long time, and the story goes he proposed it.. He had quite some guts !

    To read more about Phil Meheux's work on CR :

    http://www.theasc.com/ac_magazine/December2006/CasinoRoyale/page1.php
  • Deakins work in Skyfall was extraordinary, but that doesn't diminish Meheux's work imo. Prior to Skyfall, I thought Casino Royale was the franchise's crown jewel in cinematography. Although Deakins departure is disappointing, I'm not concerned. I don't think Sam Mendes got enough credit regarding the visuals in Skyfall. The cinematography in all his films are excellent and Deakins or not, Bond 24 will likely look beautiful as long as Mendes is directing.
  • SandySandy Somewhere in Europe
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    Deakins work in Skyfall was extraordinary, but that doesn't diminish Meheux's work imo. Prior to Skyfall, I thought Casino Royale was the franchise's crown jewel in cinematography. Although Deakins departure is disappointing, I'm not concerned. I don't think Sam Mendes got enough credit regarding the visuals in Skyfall. The cinematography in all his films are excellent and Deakins or not, Bond 24 will likely look beautiful as long as Mendes is directing.

    Wise words @battleshipgreygt! Bond films are known for being stylish, there are a few lackluster ones in the middle but mostly they are beautiful looking films. Oscar or no Oscar some extraordinary cinematographers have worked in the franchise since the very start and that will obviously continue. The same thing has to be said about Sam Mendes films, I don't like all of his films but I think all of them, without exception, look gorgeous! It seems to be very important for him to get the right visual tone to tell a story. That is why we can be sure that whoever is replacing Deakins is going to be a talented professional who is going to deliver a beautiful looking film.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    I'm with you there, @Sandy. I'm real upset that Deakins isn't returning, but with Mendes' films, they all look beautiful and stunning, whether you love or hate them. I'm sure whoever he is paired with for 'Bond 24' won't disappoint.
  • ShardlakeShardlake Leeds, West Yorkshire, England
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    Richardson is an interesting choice, he certainly has given, Stone ( all his work since they departed has paled), Scorcesse and of course Tarantino a distinctive look.

    I've no problem with Phil Meheux or Roberto Schaefer work on CR and QOS but Deakins work on SF was my favourite.

    Mendes will choose someone who'll deliver I'm sure, he knows how much weight Deakins carried and that allot of the notices the film got commented on the masters work so he'll be definitely be picking a replacement that impresses.

    Hoyte Van Hoytema is one I'd definitely be keen on and Lubezki is riding high with his success with Gravity and has links with Terrence Malick.
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    Shardlake wrote:
    Richardson is an interesting choice, he certainly has given, Stone ( all his work since they departed has paled), Scorcesse and of course Tarantino a distinctive look.

    I've no problem with Phil Meheux or Roberto Schaefer work on CR and QOS but Deakins work on SF was my favourite.

    Mendes will choose someone who'll deliver I'm sure, he knows how much weight Deakins carried and that allot of the notices the film got commented on the masters work so he'll be definitely be picking a replacement that impresses.

    Hoyte Van Hoytema is one I'd definitely be keen on and Lubezki is riding high with his success with Gravity and has links with Terrence Malick.
    I´d suggest Rodrigo Prieto, his work on Wolf of Wall Street was outstanding and absolutely Bond-worthy, but I suspect that Lubezki will get an Oscar for Gravity and Eon will chase him because of that.

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    When is Mendes starting work on bond 24 March or April?
  • MrBondMrBond Station S
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    Officially he's starting in April. But i'm sure that the team has gotten together and started to map out the production, started the casting process etc.
  • Posts: 9,846
    so a little over a month away
  • ShardlakeShardlake Leeds, West Yorkshire, England
    edited February 2014 Posts: 4,043
    boldfinger wrote:
    Shardlake wrote:
    Richardson is an interesting choice, he certainly has given, Stone ( all his work since they departed has paled), Scorcesse and of course Tarantino a distinctive look.

    I've no problem with Phil Meheux or Roberto Schaefer work on CR and QOS but Deakins work on SF was my favourite.

    Mendes will choose someone who'll deliver I'm sure, he knows how much weight Deakins carried and that allot of the notices the film got commented on the masters work so he'll be definitely be picking a replacement that impresses.

    Hoyte Van Hoytema is one I'd definitely be keen on and Lubezki is riding high with his success with Gravity and has links with Terrence Malick.
    I´d suggest Rodrigo Prieto, his work on Wolf of Wall Street was outstanding and absolutely Bond-worthy, but I suspect that Lubezki will get an Oscar for Gravity and Eon will chase him because of that.

    I've not seen WOW yet, unfortunately I think it will be on the small screen, the price of tickets is too expensive and I'm currently unemployed at the moment.

    Anyone that Marty is using is likely to be a top DOP and Prieto has an impressive record having seen a few films on his resume. Interesting to see Scorcesse again using a cinematographer utilised by Oliver Stone.
  • Samuel001Samuel001 Moderator
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    MrBond wrote:
    Officially he's starting in April. But i'm sure that the team has gotten together and started to map out the production, started the casting process etc.

    Don't forget the constructing of sets. That will begin very soon as well. Exciting times.
  • Sandy wrote:
    there are a few lackluster ones in the middle but mostly they are beautiful looking films.
    Don't forget that some DOPs had to deal with a 50 yo+ Bond, and were asked to try to hide that fact (and I love Roger, don't read too much in it !). Would a super crisp image have been a good thing... ?

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    Samuel001 wrote:
    Don't forget the constructing of sets. That will begin very soon as well. Exciting times.

    Hopefully they won't need to construct as many sets as last time and shoot a larger percentage of the movie on location than they did 3 years ago. Most of the sets made for 'Skyfall' were relly great but nothing beeats a real location.
  • Samuel001Samuel001 Moderator
    edited February 2014 Posts: 13,355
    I agree, entirely. I'm sure there will be more location work this time and well deserved it is too.
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    I can't believe we are almost into March already! :O Going so quick already but at least it means we will soon have something official to get our teeth into! :-bd
  • doubleoegodoubleoego #LightWork
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    Yeah, the combination of the misuse of funds in shooting on location in QoS and the the whole MgM restructuring really hindered the full potential of what SF could have been but here's hoping Bond 24 goes all out in shooting on location. No penny-pinching or austerity bs.
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    Samuel001 wrote:
    Don't forget the constructing of sets. That will begin very soon as well. Exciting times.

    Hopefully they won't need to construct as many sets as last time and shoot a larger percentage of the movie on location than they did 3 years ago. Most of the sets made for 'Skyfall' were relly great but nothing beeats a real location.

    I hung out with a film crew about 10 years ago now and the producer told me about the 3 key things that start first in pre-production.

    Set building
    Costume design
    Storyboarding

    Casting can be first but can be left to the very last days.
  • doubleoegodoubleoego #LightWork
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    I would have thought story boarding would be prioritised over set building at least.
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    Do we think the (embarrassingly) revealing clapperboards will return this time around? If the team has been working prior to Mendes officially starting in March/April, they could be prepped to start some preliminary shooting before the summer.
  • M_BaljeM_Balje Amsterdam, Netherlands
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    I go for Robert Richardson. He be DOP of The Four Fathers, who's writer/directer i like to see work on Bond movie and i like his cinematopgraphy i have seen from the trailer

    Also he did the bit darker spy movie and he be a compromise choose ''Dutch: Water bij de wijn doen''.
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    Sam Mendes will receive a theater award in New York City on March 10. Perhaps someone will ask him about BOND 24. :)

    http://variety.com/2014/biz/news/sam-mendes-to-be-feted-at-roundabouts-spring-gala-1201114510/
  • RC7RC7
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    Sam Mendes will receive a theater award in New York City on March 10. Perhaps someone will ask him about BOND 24. :)

    http://variety.com/2014/biz/news/sam-mendes-to-be-feted-at-roundabouts-spring-gala-1201114510/

    And perhaps he'll say, 'I can't tell you anything'.

  • Samuel001Samuel001 Moderator
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    Mendes' last theatre project opens on 24th April. He'll get to work on Bond around that time, then.
  • MrBondMrBond Station S
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    JWESTBROOK wrote:
    Do we think the (embarrassingly) revealing clapperboards will return this time around? If the team has been working prior to Mendes officially starting in March/April, they could be prepped to start some preliminary shooting before the summer.

    I don't think they'll return. Although I'm sure that their viral strategy will be even larger to reach out to a huge group of people.

    The shooting will commence in October, that gives Mendes 7 months of prep which is a quite short span of time compared to many other films.
  • ShardlakeShardlake Leeds, West Yorkshire, England
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    Sean Bobbitt, he seems to becoming one of the most sort after cinematographers out there at the moment.

    His work with Steve McQueen is extraordinary, I finally got round to watching my Criterion Blu ray of his astonishing debut Hunger. It was the first time I'd watched it since seeing at the cinema back 2008.

    As sobering and powerful an experience as ever. Bobbitt's framing of the now famous 17 1/2 minute take alongside McQueen's direction and Michael Fassbender and Liam Cunningham's acting is one of the single greatest pieces of film in the last 10 years.
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