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At least there is still the first film and the amazing show right :)
More news [url] http://www.showbiz411.com/2013/05/29/confirmed-skyfall-director-sam-mendes-in-for-bond-24-and-likely-25[/url] 8-}. Thanks @Samuel001. This is wunderful, delightful news. Now we probably get a similar Mendes-feel for Bond 24. Something that worked with the Terence Young Bond films and Young's protégé Peter Hunt (Re-watch them in right order: 'DN - FRWL - TB - OHMSS' and you know what I mean). I keep re-watching CR and SF lately.....and I am dying for a THIRD! I'd love to see Logan's and Mendes' take on SPECTRE and Blofeld in modern day world. Probably the first Bond film since TMWTGG that shows a pre credits sequence WITHOUT Bond. Just to let the people know Bond now needs to do a more simple, plain, solid bit of 'secret agent-work'.
Sorry, I'm a bit too enthusiastic. But I have a distinct feeling that if Mendes returns, Bond 24 might well be as big as 'Skyfall'. Especially newer, younger Bond fans would be into that.
Good heavens, I hope that makes Deakins a shoo-in, too. That's an A+ partnership!
Mind you, I am not buying this 100% yet until it is, finally, at long last officially confirmed. But yeah, I would be more than pleased.
I will squeal like a 14-year-old girl if Deakins does return.
If I have a camera conveniently around at the time of this possibly being announced, I just might record it!
You should use the Mac's Photo Booth feature to record a video of it should it happen! :))
Haha, I will do my best to make this happen!! I really hope Deakins does return.
It will be the sequel that OHMSS never had...
The funny thing is.....I thought SF was a perfect sequel to the OHMSS of our lifetime, CR @-). We now truly live in another 'Golden Era of Bond'.
I think QoS was a pretty great sequel to CR. SF wasn't really tied to the main plot of CR, though it did continue to develop most of the characters we had known since Dan's intro, so I will give you that one.
Shall I be very honest here? Style-wise, I find CR and SF way more connected than CR and QOS. QOS is sitting between these movies as some kind of 'lame duck'. Don't forget, Sam Mendes himself was not only inspired by the revived Batman films, he was similarly inspired by colleague director Martin Campbell and his new refreshing take on the Bond franchise.
Let's take an example, compare a few scenes. The dinner scene and the train scene in CR, where Bond and Vesper Lynd are exchanging quite a few bit of, hefty, lines. I loved it, especially when Bond referred to Vesper's Algerian love necklace.
That same scene reminded me of the casino scene in SF where Bond was basically reading Severine's fear, when Bond grabbed his wrists and started a little wiki-talk about her tatoo and the prostitution house she was in.
That, my dear fans, that is what a call stylistical continuation. Especially that moment I truly connected with Campbell's/Mendes' revived Bond world. Something....I didn't feel with QOS.
Now that's why I want Sam Mendes to return. He doesn't necessarily want to direct 'his own take' on the Bond franchise, like predecessors Roger Spottiswoode, Michael Apted, Lee Tamahori and Marc Forster did. Mendes' has an almost sacred respect for the Bond franchise. He and the entire team were dissecting each part, each film of the franchise, from Bond film nr.1 to Bond film nr.22. Then Sean Connery. He couldn't be bothered reading the novel 'Diamonds Are Forever'. That's a huge difference with how the current 'Bond team' is working.
Sam Mendes could be what Christopher Nolan was for Batman and the legendary Terence Young was for his Bond films. We need that. Sam Mendes will return.
http://www.theshiznit.co.uk/feature/bond-24-director-shortlist-the-yays-the-nays-and-the-no-ways.php
There said this about Nolan:
This about Tom Hooper:
I think that only the scene's aroud the court look like on the thrill of TDK and M her speach mabey The King's Speach. Note that i never seen that last and i never will. But i don't whant that for a whole movie and i think after a couple of views of this in Skyfall this goiing to be a boring moment. As i think about the whole movie at this momet, it wil not survive time. Hooper isn't another Marc Forster at all.
Joe Wright. Hanna traveling/dream world be very intresting and very FRWL/LALD, but the rest disapointed a bit.
Since Twine we don't get any Bond movie who is made to view more then 10 times.
From the moment of 2016 remour i must think about it mabey possible return of Sam Mendes who should be blame that. Second: I am most worried about that the 4 years waiting isn't needed to get same result. From my first view i feel Skyfall is a movie who ca be released in 2010. If Mendes return i hope atleast there wil try to give the movie in January 2015.
I believe Skyfall can inprove with next one, but it should not take to long. There already missing a extra Bond movie in 2010.
If Mendes direct again atleast please drop the digital filming.
I find it difficult to argue with any of that Gustav.
I feel the passage of time will more and more see QOS feel like downloadable content to tag onto the end of CR and SF will be regarded as the true sequel.
Already it feels that QOS is the black sheep of the Craig era that people would prefer never existed.
Also, I read once again many people re-writing history to make it in line with their current opinion on the movies. Try to find any connection between Martin Campbell and Sam Mendes. On the other hand, I've yet to read someone here who remembers that the movie that alllegedly got Marc Forster the job was produced by some people including... Sam Mendes (the Kite Runner). If Skyfall had turned into a QoS-like movie, the connection would be all over the place as a proof of the mistake, etc...
Sony needs content to showcase its new 4K hardware to be widely released in the next years. I think Bond going back to analog film is as unlikely as a Sam Mendes opening scene without the hero or the narrator !
And Bond 24 could turn Skyfall into the "overrated one", you can't predict these things...
The IMBD rating's slowly but surely going down, as the vote of the younger ones weighs less and less over time. What was the max ? 8.4 way above the other Bonds ? Now Casino Royale is back on the #1 Bond spot on IMDB. Ranking aficionados do not talk about this any more here :)
That would be such a great idea. But for Bond 25 or 26, maybe not 24.
I agree and disagree with these CR-QOS-SF thoughts.
Stylistically @GustavGraves makes some great points. Campbell and Mendes had a much more similar vision than Forster in this respect, there is a certain "air of class" that separates CR and SF from QOS, which was more down and dirty in real world grit that can't help but engender further comparisons to the Bourne series. We all know now this was the wrong path to go down stylistically, and hopefully EON has learned well for the future that any director should prefer reverence to radical reinvention.
I also agree with his second point abut having a director like Mendes who is a true fan of the franchise. He is reverent, he knows the films and their history, and I believe his approach is in keeping with that. I don't think having a "house director" is a bad thing by any means in the case of Mendes.
Where I disagree fairly strongly is comparing SF's story content more favorably to CR than QOS. SF is far from a true CR sequel, in fact in no way is it as far as I can see. No Vesper, no Mathis, not even any QUANTUM references, nothing whatsoever save the continuation of M's trust issues ties SF to either. I'm seeing Bond's character traits fully returned in SF short of his relationship with M which did carry over, otherwise it's a brand new adventure where Bond has moved on from his past. Having Moneypenny and Q back just adds to that feeling of normalcy for me. I'm not sure where Wiz sees this differently, although I definitely agree that QOS to date is the black sheep for Craig just as DAD was for Brozzer, LTK for Dalton, MR for Moore, and DAF for Connery.
Perhaps I shouldve made myself clearer. I'm not saying SF is a sequel to CR in any way except the feeling that it comes from the same stable in terms of overall quality and gloss.
QOS has more of a feel of a fake Chinese Rolex - if you glance at it you can be fooled but the closer you examine it the more its flaws become apparent.
Thats a rather bold statement Sir. I'd be enlightened if you could point me in the direction of any of them, Or indeed one.
I dont hate QOS - I see it more as a missed opportunity than anything else, and its certainly a step up from the likes of DAD, DAF etc - but a couple of good dialogue scenes apart where are these greatest moments of the series you speak about?
The action is average verging on poor, the plot is mediocre at best, the villain is weak, the henchman a joke, the titles, song, direction and editing are all awful. Theres only really Craigs performance, Olga, the scenes with Mathis, some of the scenes with M and the photography that are worthy of note. And none of those could be claimed anywhere near the greatest in the series, or even the greatest in the Craig era.
Yes but you've got the DB5, Bond crying over the corpse of the main female character, Bond strapped to a chair in front of the villain, "Do not touch your ear", etc.. - none of this happening in QOS. This is the very first I can remember, surely there's more (and similarly if the box office had put QOS and SF in the same vein, then we'd be speaking about the way Camille and Bond attitude mirror Silva and M at the end, etc.. It's just to point out that IMO "similarities are everywhere", you can always prove anything if you look for them).
The problem IMO is that Skyfall is so full of references to the other Bonds, that if in the future some director want to refer to Skyfall, I don't know how he can do it :)
Right you are @Suivez, which is why I reject the comparison past the style. There were subtle tributes to more than just CR all over the place, which anyone with half a brain should realize were intended to acknowledge the anniversary. I'm sure something will come up in BOND24 that will remind someone of something, but it will not be as obviously intentional unless the storyline calls for it.
Well, they can mention a rat left standing. ;)
Or Bond can pull out an old knife and say something about, "Sometimes, the old ways are the best ways."
Or if they're going with the "Casino Royale-Skyfall are prequels to Dr. No-Die Another Day" theory, which I believe Mendes supports, they can mention Strangways or Quarrel or missile toppling. That would be a good moment and not club the audience over the head.
You must have missed the Bond vs. Slate fight.
I agree that's a good fight as is the rope fight. But the pitiful dull boat chase, the mediocre plane duel followed by the execrable freefall CGI debacle added to the passable but destroyed by editing PTS and rooftop chase when combined all add up to average.
And good though the Slate fight is its not as good as Bond v Grant, Bond v Trevelyan or Bond v Obanno so hardly a serious contender for greatest of the series. The bit where Bond coldly waits for him to bleed out is superb though.