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Good point but Charlie’s Angels was sort of dead on arrival, and save for the Disney musical, no ‘movie song’ is as singularly important or marketable as the Bond title theme.
I know she isn't bubble gum light pop, Thom Yorke remarked that she is the only artist doing anything expletive interesting.
Thom Yorke says he’s a fan of Billie Eilish: “Nobody’s telling her what to do”
When someone like him says that I sit up and listen, I'm definitely anticipating this song.
I didn't mean she wasn't popular or great at what she does, but what she does is confined to the same sound. So we already know what we're getting with her and I'm not looking forward to that for the aforementioned reasons.
May I ask what prompted you to start posting after 5 years of reading posts?
And why even bother when they made you so miserable?
Poster wanted to use flattery so he/she can blend in. Most of the times it's just Bullock, the same thing he/she mentioned we all have been doing soul dreading posts except for a few VIP's who have contributed reliable information.
There's a great fit for timing, yes. And I suspect her star will rise even farther (faster) after the Grammys. Anyone who's ever wanted Lana Del Rey should be pretty pleased with this choice, as well.
Can't wait to hear what they've come up with!
Spoilers.
Not every episode is written by Walter Bridge, music tracks playing inportent part in series to tell something. It made me curious or there wil be more then one song heard in NTTD and or producers and writers already have idea of this since SF. Or Killing Eve was inspyred.
For $1 billion global box office - yes. Other things the film is doing to chase this demographic - PWB, Nomi possibly being the new 007...
I suspect you haven't visited Tumblr since 2012, because exactly that demographic has jumped on the Bond fandom for shipping purposes. The most popular ship is 00Q, which is exactly what you think it is.
So whether you like it or not, *that demographic* has been involved with Bond since the casting of Ben Wishaw. There was some buzz within that demographic when Andrew Scott was cast (because of Sherlock), but since that role led to not much in SP, it has died out. With Waller-Bridge and Eilish on board, *that demographic* is here to stay.
And I don't think it's a wrong move.
Hiring a "hip artist" to sing the theme or Ben Whishaw as Q have virtually nothing to do with the film's success. EON should understand that it's about the story, the locations, the larger than life characters, the women, the humor, and the music, which should be like a strong omniscient character. Boy George released a theme for 'NTTD' as a joke, but it's so good, that it could use a few orchestrations and be used as a solid, legitimate theme. Personally, I don't think they've hit a home run with a song since K.D. Lang's 'Surrender' and that wasn't even the main title theme.
What kind of song do we think this one will be? Perhaps only hard rocker is ruled out.
Aside from that ... I want to ask if that clip from Killing Eve is typical ... is it? I have never seen anything from that before, and I just found that clip really disgusting. I guess it is meant to be disturbing. Is there much of that kind of thing in the series? Just wondering.
At the time that ‘A View To A Kill’ was released Duran Duran was a hip, new band. The same with Bassey and Jones. These artists weren’t legends in 1964, 1965 and 1985.
EON understands that the film, as an artistic piece, is the ultimate determinate of its own successes, but hiring new and interesting talent helps too. It’s one thing not to like Eilish but your argument doesn’t track.
It has those moments in the series but it isn't all the way through, it is pretty dark and the humour is decidedly black.
I'm curious about Eilish, she is quite experimental in her style so I could see something closer to that than an outright ballad, anything will be better than that wimpy nonsense last time round.
I do think, as it is now 2020, that EON should/will confirm the singer soonish. Like this month at least.
Producer machine artists are the only source of "new and interesting talent?" In many consensuses, Madonna's 'DAD,' Jack White and Alicia Key's 'AWTD' and Sam Smith's 'TWOTW,' are considered to be poor Bond themes, and I happen to agree. Sure, Duran were teeny boppers, to a certain extent, but they came from a different school. For that band, they are great musicians, and had the assistance of the late genius, John Barry.
Somehow, I don't think Hans Zimmer along with Billie Ellish or anyone of these producer cranked artists will create history, once history has already been made. I think it's safe to assume that lifelong Bond fans will always relate to many of the theme songs from yesteryear, along with the bombastic scores provided by such incredible composers as John Barry, Marvin Hamlisch or Bill Conti who added so much to the films.
It's not that I won't give it a chance, but I feel like so many opportunities for classic themes have gone to waste in recent years.
You missed Burgess’ point: all Bond artists have been the hip new thing: including Barry himself! He was in his twenties when Dr No came out and was having pop hits in the hit parade. They hired John Barry because he was a hip young pop artist! Tom Jones was a teen idol, Bassey was 27 or so; pretty much the only time in the first 25 years or so they used a ‘legend’ would’ve been Louis Armstrong: even Paul McCartney had only been around ten years or so- the equivalent of using someone like the Arctic Monkeys now. The idea of using someone long established probably only kicked in with the likes of Gladys Knight or Tina Turner.
If you think hiring a ‘hip artist’ to do the theme has nothing to do with Bond, you don’t know Bond.
Although subjective, I think the 'hip artists' of yesteryear had a lot more pizzaz. We can both agree that we would like a good theme, regardless of who provides it, but I just feel the music in the series has been lackluster in recent years. I mean, how likely is someone to hum or whistle 'The Writing's on the Wall' and a Thomas Newman cue in comparison to say, 'YOLT' and 'Space March'?
I guess my point is that "hip" needs to have pizzaz. I know we are no longer in the 60s, 70s, or 80s, but there still needs to be an upholding of tradition. From the few songs that I've heard, and the videos I've seen, Billie Ellish's sound and visual concept look like a result of total societal decay and the imminent threat of an apocalypse. Great, art should reflect the times, but I feel that there are other ways to do that, especially for a Bond film. Bond is escapist fare, after all.
Just look at the movies and music produced by that generation. 😎🤙🏼
Yes, we both want a good, nay, great title song. But comparing one of the most iconic Bond (and film) scores to one of the most disliked Bond title songs is imbalanced.
There’s always the good and the bad in any art form, and a sixty year old film series will certainly have some stinkers. Billie Eilish, if she’s the one, has yet to be proven a good or bad choice. She’s certainly popular, talented and distinctive, which is the mix I like for Bond title song performers. Let’s see what she brings. We both want the same thing: Bond at his best.
Totally agree. I have to say, listening to 3 different examples of Billie's work hasn't exactly inspired me or made me jump for joy. Her voice is dreary, her songs make you want to slash your wrists.
I hope this isn't another token nod to being hip and trendy, and we end up with another DAD or AWTD - easily the 2 worst songs in the franchise.
EON got it spot on when they hired Adele, yet they seemed to have regressed again if this rumour is true.