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  • 007HallY007HallY
    Posts: 4,162
    Denbigh wrote: »
    This might sound harsh but I actually think it looks awful...

    Yeah, I really get that too to be honest.
  • CraigMooreOHMSSCraigMooreOHMSS Dublin, Ireland
    Posts: 8,217
    Denbigh wrote: »
    This might sound harsh but I actually think it looks awful...

    Not harsh at all. There's a couple of nice shots and I am hyped by Keaton, but by and large it looks very wonky.

    The FX are likely poor, in part, thanks to the sheer volume of reshoots they've had to go through - but there's just something off about the whole thing. And obviously, Miller doesn't help.
  • SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷ Lekki, Lagos, Nigeria
    edited February 2023 Posts: 2,044
    I'm in for Keaton, Affleck & Wallfisch's score. I'm hoping the final film turns out well, as the trailer isn't particularly convincing....and after Miller's shenanigans, I'm not sure audiences might pay full attention to the film as they should have.
  • MaxCasinoMaxCasino United States
    Posts: 4,636
    As I said before, I really hope James Gunn doesn’t use General Zod for Superman Legacy or afterwards for a LONG TIME. He’s overstayed his welcome, way back when he was turned into Doomsday.
  • DragonpolDragonpol https://thebondologistblog.blogspot.com
    edited February 2023 Posts: 18,281
    Revelator wrote: »
    Dragonpol wrote: »
    I get that it's a bit camp and spoof-like but I see above that @Revelator said that it was based on the 1960s comics of the time which must've went more in that direction.

    The late 50s and early 60s Batman comics were definitely wilder than anything in the show, although they lacked its tongue-in-cheek self-awareness. A couple episodes in the first season of Batman are direct adaptations of the comics and relatively faithful ones too. This was largely because Lorenzo Semple Jr. was the showrunner. Unfortunately the scripts for the next two seasons were edited by other people, so there were fewer adaptations and the show's humor went from tongue-in-cheek absurdity to cornball self-parody.

    As for the Flash trailer, seeing Keaton back in the cowl (though it looks different than those from his earlier suits) is a delight. The film also seems to be taking cues from the Flashpoint Paradox, an excellent animated film based on the comics. Aside from those factors I'm not excited by all the overblown CGI.

    Thanks, @Revelator. You certainly have the requisite expertise when it comes to Batman. I am a rank amateur in comparison as James Bond and Columbo are my two main areas of pop cultural interest.

    I was wondering if you know of or could recommend any book that would serve as a guide or reference work on the history of the 1960s Batman TV series starring Adam West?
  • Risico007Risico007
    Posts: 9,847
    Dragonpol wrote: »
    Revelator wrote: »
    Dragonpol wrote: »
    I get that it's a bit camp and spoof-like but I see above that @Revelator said that it was based on the 1960s comics of the time which must've went more in that direction.

    The late 50s and early 60s Batman comics were definitely wilder than anything in the show, although they lacked its tongue-in-cheek self-awareness. A couple episodes in the first season of Batman are direct adaptations of the comics and relatively faithful ones too. This was largely because Lorenzo Semple Jr. was the showrunner. Unfortunately the scripts for the next two seasons were edited by other people, so there were fewer adaptations and the show's humor went from tongue-in-cheek absurdity to cornball self-parody.

    As for the Flash trailer, seeing Keaton back in the cowl (though it looks different than those from his earlier suits) is a delight. The film also seems to be taking cues from the Flashpoint Paradox, an excellent animated film based on the comics. Aside from those factors I'm not excited by all the overblown CGI.

    Thanks, @Revelator. You certainly have the requisite expertise when it comes to Batman. I am a rank amateur in comparison as James Bond and Columbo are my two main areas of pop cultural interest.

    I was wondering if you know of or could recommend any book that would serve as a guide or reference work on the history of the 1960s Batman TV series starring Adam West?

    Well I believe Adam West Burt Ward and Frank Gorshin all did auto biographies with huge chunks dedicated to the tv series
  • DragonpolDragonpol https://thebondologistblog.blogspot.com
    Posts: 18,281
    Risico007 wrote: »
    Dragonpol wrote: »
    Revelator wrote: »
    Dragonpol wrote: »
    I get that it's a bit camp and spoof-like but I see above that @Revelator said that it was based on the 1960s comics of the time which must've went more in that direction.

    The late 50s and early 60s Batman comics were definitely wilder than anything in the show, although they lacked its tongue-in-cheek self-awareness. A couple episodes in the first season of Batman are direct adaptations of the comics and relatively faithful ones too. This was largely because Lorenzo Semple Jr. was the showrunner. Unfortunately the scripts for the next two seasons were edited by other people, so there were fewer adaptations and the show's humor went from tongue-in-cheek absurdity to cornball self-parody.

    As for the Flash trailer, seeing Keaton back in the cowl (though it looks different than those from his earlier suits) is a delight. The film also seems to be taking cues from the Flashpoint Paradox, an excellent animated film based on the comics. Aside from those factors I'm not excited by all the overblown CGI.

    Thanks, @Revelator. You certainly have the requisite expertise when it comes to Batman. I am a rank amateur in comparison as James Bond and Columbo are my two main areas of pop cultural interest.

    I was wondering if you know of or could recommend any book that would serve as a guide or reference work on the history of the 1960s Batman TV series starring Adam West?

    Well I believe Adam West Burt Ward and Frank Gorshin all did auto biographies with huge chunks dedicated to the tv series

    Thank you for the recommendation, @Risico007.
  • DenbighDenbigh UK
    edited February 2023 Posts: 5,970
    CraigMooreOHMSS wrote: »
    Denbigh wrote: »
    This might sound harsh but I actually think it looks awful...
    The FX are likely poor, in part, thanks to the sheer volume of reshoots they've had to go through - but there's just something off about the whole thing. And obviously, Miller doesn't help.
    Yeah, I feel you, the FX is just strange and plasticy like I'm watching the dated cutscenes of a video game, and I'm sorry to those Keaton fans but from what we've seen, I have a suspicion they've just turned him into a joke. Not to mention this reeks of the same kind of filmmaking that Marvel does, like Spider Man: No Way Home, where they make a film just for audience cheers, which just isn't for me. For example, that pause between Keaton's lines, is so obviously a gap left for those cheers.
  • 007ClassicBondFan007ClassicBondFan
    Posts: 2,270
    I was throughly impressed by the trailer. I don’t know if it was the nostalgia of seeing Keaton back in the suit, or the brief glimpses of Affleck back as Batman, but I thought it was pretty good. The CGI didn’t really bother me all that much, and even Miller himself didn’t put me off. My hope is once this film comes out we can close the book on the DCEU and let Gunn finally go forward with his iteration of the Universe. I’m also hoping Miller is done after this film.
  • RevelatorRevelator
    edited February 2023 Posts: 2,918
    Dragonpol wrote: »
    I was wondering if you know of or could recommend any book that would serve as a guide or reference work on the history of the 1960s Batman TV series starring Adam West?

    I'd start with the Feb. 1994 issue of Cinefantastique, which has an excellent section on the 60s show and can be downloaded here. The articles were later expanded into the book Batman: A Celebration of the Classic TV Series. And for even more information there's also The Official Batman Batbook: The Revised Bat Edition.
  • DragonpolDragonpol https://thebondologistblog.blogspot.com
    Posts: 18,281
    Revelator wrote: »
    Dragonpol wrote: »
    I was wondering if you know of or could recommend any book that would serve as a guide or reference work on the history of the 1960s Batman TV series starring Adam West?

    I'd start with the Feb. 1994 issue of Cinefantastique, which has an excellent section on the 60s show and can be downloaded here. The articles were later expanded into the book Batman: A Celebration of the Classic TV Series. And for even more information there's also The Official Batman Batbook: The Revised Bat Edition.

    Thank you, @Revelator. Some great suggestions for further reading there. I'll have to see if I can seek those out. Exactly the sort of thing I was looking for.
  • Risico007Risico007
    Posts: 9,847
    Speaking of Batman curious after watching the Batman does anyone else want to monologue over something in the way by nirvana or no
  • MaxCasinoMaxCasino United States
    edited February 2023 Posts: 4,636


    First look at Lady Gaga as Harley Quinn.
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
    Posts: 24,183
    Not a lot to see yet, but I'm certainly intrigued.
  • FoxRoxFoxRox
    edited February 2023 Posts: 12,473
    A crazy and potentially controversial idea for The Batman Part II popped into my head last night.

    I’m relieved to know I’m far from alone in wanting different villains for this series to shine instead of falling back on The Joker, who was teased at the end of the first and has been used so much more than every other Batman villain. What if when the marketing ramps up for the movie, all signs point to The Joker once again being the main villain, but when the movie drops, he is killed by whoever the real main threat is, like 30 minutes into the movie - or at least sometime before the halfway mark. I’d absolutely love this, to guarantee this series gets different villains and doing something doing with Joker, even if it might piss people off. As for what’s really going to happen, he’ll probably play a central role in one of the next two planned films, if not both, but I’d also be happy if they relegated him to a Hannibal Lecter role.
  • TheSkyfallen06TheSkyfallen06 Buenos Aires, Argentina.
    edited February 2023 Posts: 1,101
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  • DwayneDwayne New York City
    edited February 2023 Posts: 2,847
    This made me smile.......


    I think I know what to watch tonight!!!! :)
  • RevelatorRevelator
    Posts: 2,918
    Frank Gorshin still owns the Riddler. He brought a gleeful high-strung tension to the role that even Jim Carrey and Paul Dano couldn't re-capture. Plus he was a terrific impressionist!
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
    Posts: 24,183
    Revelator wrote: »
    Frank Gorshin still owns the Riddler. He brought a gleeful high-strung tension to the role that even Jim Carrey and Paul Dano couldn't re-capture. Plus he was a terrific impressionist!

    I absolutely agree. Gorshin brought an energy to the character that was never quite paralleled afterwards.
  • DaltonCraig007DaltonCraig007 They say, "Evil prevails when good men fail to act." What they ought to say is, "Evil prevails."
    Posts: 15,718
    I have no idea what is going on with the DCEU (apart from the upcoming semi-reboot/whatever post-Aquaman 2), but the recent trailers for Shazam! 2 and The Flash look absolutely horrible. It is very cool to see Michael Keaton back as Batman, but these next two films look very low-budget and the CGI seems extremely wonky. Shazam 2 looks like it was entirely shot in front of greenscreens, while the CGI in The Flash may well have come from a video-game cutscene from 10 years ago.

    The Batman Part II, however, I will be there day one for that. Robert Pattinson knocked it out of the park in his debut outing.
  • MaxCasinoMaxCasino United States
    edited February 2023 Posts: 4,636
    DarthDimi wrote: »
    Revelator wrote: »
    Frank Gorshin still owns the Riddler. He brought a gleeful high-strung tension to the role that even Jim Carrey and Paul Dano couldn't re-capture. Plus he was a terrific impressionist!

    I absolutely agree. Gorshin brought an energy to the character that was never quite paralleled afterwards.

    He and the 60’s show did to the Riddler what Batman TAS did with Mr. Freeze. They helped make them memorable and worthwhile villains for Batman and Co. to fight.



    We should have a main cast by the end of the year! Hopefully, Superman Legacy isn’t to far behind!
  • TheSkyfallen06TheSkyfallen06 Buenos Aires, Argentina.
    edited February 2023 Posts: 1,101

    'Mystery Of The Batman' - 'The Case Of The Chemical Syndicate' (1939) - 2016 "Remaster"
    Never seen a fan project like this in terms of concept before, and i like it.
  • MaxCasinoMaxCasino United States
    Posts: 4,636
    https://www.reddit.com/r/DCEUleaks/comments/11i9ck2/folie_a_deux_set_pics/?amp;ref=share&ref_source=embed&utm_content=body&utm_medium=post_embed&utm_name=faf58386ab5641b889d2b04753b0c8d5&utm_source=embedly&utm_term=11i9ck2

    https://www.reddit.com/r/DCEUleaks/comments/11ihiyi/further_look_at_a_chase_scene_filming_for_joker/

    https://www.reddit.com/r/DCEUleaks/comments/11iu37k/closer_look_at_joaquin_phoenix_in_costume_on_the/
  • RevelatorRevelator
    Posts: 2,918
    Let's not forget the greatest live-action Batman, Spike Milligan:

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  • MaxCasinoMaxCasino United States
    edited March 2023 Posts: 4,636


    Batman’s own Cubby Broccoli. If he says it, it’s true.
  • DaltonCraig007DaltonCraig007 They say, "Evil prevails when good men fail to act." What they ought to say is, "Evil prevails."
    Posts: 15,718
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  • FoxRoxFoxRox
    Posts: 12,473
    That is awesome!
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
    Posts: 24,183
    Sweet! I have such high hopes for this film. I predict it will be funky, weird and very polarizing. ;-)
  • Risico007Risico007
    Posts: 9,847
    https://thedirect.com/article/robert-pattinson-the-batman-2-villain-report


    I am actually extremely excited!!!

    It’s like let’s just double down on the horror for the sequel with the creepiest and scariest villains in the Batman universe
  • FoxRoxFoxRox
    Posts: 12,473
    Just a rumor for now, but I would be extremely stoked if Clayface was the lead baddie.
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