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No Joker and Penguin do but he does not...
I do hope David Fincher Directs the next one or Brian De Palama only 2 that can bring the Riddler to the big Screen I would care about.
Maybe with
Bradley Cooper as Bruce wayne/Batman
Timothy Dalton as Alfred
Nicolas Cage as James Gordon
Jackie Earle Hailey as The Riddler
just my thoughts.
1/ The Dark Knight
2/ Batman Begins
3/ The Dark knight Rises
4/ Batman
5/ Batman returns
The rest is Rubbish. They are bound to get around to makingmore Batma films and i wouldn't want to be the guy who does them seen as Nolan's trilogy is untouchable.
DING DING DING. =D>
Batman Returns is better than The Dark Knight.
It's a question of art over publicly accepted technically proficient film-making IMO.
Your Bat-mileage clearly varies.
;)
Mad Hatter Hugo Dtrange Hush and Deadshot are all villains I want to see (and freaks like Killer Croc Clayface Mr Freeze would be nice too along with 20 other villains)
*Serious stories
*Stories where Batman acts like Batman and his backstory is canonical
*Batman not killing people
*Gordon actually being apart of the plot
*Bruce's parents not being killed by Joker (that still bugs me)
*Bruce and Alfred not letting some broad they barely know into the batcave
*Batman films with no penguins with rockets strapped to their backs
I could go on and on and on...
I like
*Batman being a detective
*No ridiculous raspy Bat-voices
*The Joker being...THE JOKER
* No trying to make The Batman as if he could exist in OUR REAL LIFE WORLD
* No "Q" to make his stuff
I could go on and on... :))
The Joker was the joker and there was detective work in Nolan's films, though not as much as you want because he knew who all the villains were. There weren't many mysteries to solve when the villain is overtly killing people of the city. You know who the bad guy is at that point.
The Kane/Finger Batman, in simplest terms, was a lone vigilante that was soon revealed to be driven by the death of his parents --all of this can be said for Burton's Batman as well, with the main difference being that he was most interested in the psychology behind the actions of the main character (including the killing that is notably present in the two versions) rather than just the actions themselves as far as point a to point b narrative resolution.
I think it's largely forgotten in many comic story lines that the underlying basis for Batman's nightly jaunts is psychological imbalance -- both as far as the depression and the heavily weird/illogical/psycho way he chooses to deal with that, by dressing up as a bat of all things. If you portray this on film and want it to be taken seriously at all, I think the point has to be made that this is not a psychologically healthy character at all, otherwise you get camp. If you don't deal with the central idea being a character that acts out in the manner he does because of lacking mental health in much the same way as the villains he encounters -- it's obvious, but sometimes forgotten, that the basis of so many of these characters stems from their psychological traumas, and that Batman's the same when you contrast underlying motivations.
Yes i saw it very funny and true but iam a fan of both Burton movies and the nolan's batman trilogy . Do you like Tim Burton's Batman movies ?
Agreed! Don't get me wrong, I thought the Tim Burton movies were okay but they don't even come close to Nolan's movies.
My ranking order of the Batman movies/TV shows I've seen...
Batman Begins
The Dark Knight Rises
The Dark Knight
Batman The Animated Series (90's cartoon)
Batman Returns
Batman (Michael Keaton)
Batman Forever
Batman (Adam West)
Batman & Robin
What I'd really like to see is all the deleted scenes from Batman 89 restored and put back into a Director's Cut. There's a glimpse of some of these in the special features of the 2-disc set.
I like Nolan's movies, I just think Burton's dark and twisted take appeals to me more.
:))
Yes I grew up with Burton's movies it's so sad that Michael Keaton did only two.
Oh and I love Elfman's score especially in returns captures the character of batman so well.
Damn! That music brings back some great memories. Thanks for that. Makes me want to go back and watch the Keaton movies again.
I grew up with the 60's Batman, all Batman comics from late 30's to 80's and with the Burton films and The Animated series inspired by Burton's two Batmans and the early comic books from the 30's and 40's.
I've never been against changing some things for the movies. Take the Penguin for example. Burton made him more interesting as a villain imo. I never found the Penguin in the comics all that interesting. Burton gave the character an edge. Tragic character, and not the real villain of the flick. That was Christopher Walken's character Max Shreck.
Batman Returns is also, to date, the most stylistic Bat-film out of them all.
Batman Returns will be forever my favorite batman movie I like that dark christmas atmosphere. For people like Bruce Wayne, who must forever remain outsiders of society, the best gift of all is knowing the sacrifices he makes are what allow others—even confused weirdos—to rest in peace on Christmas Eve.While to some Christmas may represent happiness and relaxation with the family, to others (such as Bruce Wayne) it can be a very cold, dark, and depressing time of year.
This is the real Batman
http://www.culturalzest.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/Batman-Returns-pic-2.jpg
But on the other hand, Batman Forever was so wildly different in tone (and pretty stupid too....) that I think Keaton was very smart to quit when he did.
Now Batman Forever with Keaton AND Tim Burton-- oh one can only dream!!!!
The rumor was that The Riddler was going to be played by Robin Williams-- and not only that, originally the character of Max Shreck in BR was supposed to be DENT, and he was to be horribly scarred, not killed, setting up for part 3
There's a lot of 'fan art' out there, that really makes me drool at the potential:
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I grew up with Keaton as Batman and to me he will be forever the best Batman.
*Killed people (sometimes with a sadistic sile)
*Let a woman he didn't even know into the batcave (thanks Alfred)
*Took off his mask for literally no reason, exposing his identity
*Comes up against guys with guns directly (duh!)
*Endangered civilians with a plane he flew through Gotham with bullets firing at the Joker or sorry, Jack Nicholson doing a Joker impression. My bad, it's been a while.
*He actually kills Joker, which Batman wouldn't do, even if he killed his parents.
This kind of stuff is why I will never think Keaton is was or ever will be Batman in any shape or form.
This brings up something intresting about the whole killing thing. Actually it says that in the comics he killed people for a while.
http://www.cracked.com/blog/5-reasons-batman-always-wins/
Because if he kills that means he is just like Joe Chill (not JOKER!), the man who killed his parents Thomas and Martha.
The said thing about the original Batman comics, the Burton films and future issues run by DC writers who make Batman do those things to sell comics is that none truly understand the character. Brilliant writers like Frank Miller (he used to know how to write Batman, but is horrid now), Paul Dini and Jeph Loeb along with Nolan have brought out the true image of Batman.