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Easily the best bit of the track, by a mile.
Just another generic movie soundtrack.
The usage of the Grand Bazaar track didn't bother me too much. I like the links. It's the use of electronics throughout that dulled it for me.
The brassy statements are good, and the choir was a great idea. I think the score will at least be better than Skyfall.
That I agree on. But Skyfall is hardly a benchmark to aim for.
It's not like SF had a bad score, just generic.
By the way, I think it's NOT fair to say that Thomas Newman is "blatantly rehashing previous music". Completely unfair! HE GAVE HIS OWN INTERPRETATION to an action theme and cues of Monty Norman's Bond theme. This is what gave fame to several of John Barry's themes also. The repeated use of the 007-theme for instance, but also Vesper's theme which David Arnold used again in "QOS". We don't call those "blatant rip-off's" either.
Also, these are only two tracks so far. Be daring to stop all the comparisons for a while and take it for what it is: Beautiful movie music. Try to...let it grow inside you....to see the beauty of it takes some re-thinking...and not only pre-conceived conventions. It's why my music taste is so broad. Not saying that others don't have a big music taste...
This kind of backlash is a bit unfair I think. Same thing with Sam Smith's song.
All I'll add is they should get the Game of Thrones composer (or someone similar) to do the score. At least I was associating his themes with the TV show, and with the various houses depicted in it.
You could put Grand Bazaar in any action movie and it wouldn't be out of place
Backfire... convoluted, way too repetitious and generic. The middle part with the choir was great then the reuse of Grand Bazaar was uninspired and very lazy in my eyes.
I want David Arnold back or Joe Kraemer helming the music department from here on out.
Hopefully it will fit perfectly, but unless you've actually seen the film I would imagine that's a tough thing to say definitively.
Your passion is always a source for admiration, @GG
Give the poor man a break please :-(. Only two tracks and you're asking for change? I find that a bit impatient and also disrespectful towards Thomas Newman.
I think EON should keep an eye on Henry Jackman and Daniel Pemberton (NOT David Arnold or Joe Kraemer). But here I go as well! Thomas Newman is the composer. Accept it. And if you don't instantly like it, then please let it grow to you....listen to it more often. 'Growers' in music also have a certain beauty.
Exactly @Antovolk. Completely agreed. Moreover, this is an appreciation topic foremost. Don't loose that aspect of this topic pls.
As for the use of the Grand Bazar motif - why not. Its essentially one of Newmans interpretations of the Bond theme. Fits the music well and I do like it linking up with SF in that regard.
I agree it's too early to write this score off on the basis of two tracks. Let's hear it all and then pass judgement. Backfire is rather generic & incoherent though (And perversely reminds me of something Arnold did for CR....can't place it though) but not terrible.
I didn't say "definitively".
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I was speaking about the track itself.
But what I seriously hope (and I'll be REALLY disappointed if otherwise) that Newman will use Writing's on the Wall as a love theme for Bond and Madeleine.
It's not bad, and on more listens the similarities to Grand Bazaar drift away and it stands on its own.
My concern (and I realize it's too early to pass judgement) based on this one track is that it could have come from another action film (not necessarily Bond). This is the kind of stuff Arnold gave us for years, and Newman too in SF. The compositional finesse & defining 'hook' that we have come to expect from Barry or any of the other 'one off' Bond composers for that matter is missing from this piece.
I hope for better from the rest of this score. It's not terrible though...on par with SF and Arnold's work.....which is to say Bond deserves better.
Yes to both, especially WOTW. That would be beautiful.
So the IFPI is chasing you and hunting you down also @Antovolk :-P?