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  • MotleyCat74MotleyCat74
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    I saw two.new videos from Robert Bolton!
  • MotleyCat74MotleyCat74
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    A yacht scene and an outtake
  • LostionLostion
    Posts: 16
    Link Please? :)
  • MotleyCat74MotleyCat74
    edited January 2016 Posts: 114
    Lostion wrote: »
    Link Please? :)

    They've been deleted now, but a Q scene has been uploaded though.
  • LostionLostion
    Posts: 16
    What is the difference? The same Scene is in the Movie?
  • Gunbarrels007Gunbarrels007
    edited December 2015 Posts: 229
    Lostion wrote: »
    What is the difference? The same Scene is in the Movie?
    Yes a user on youtube was kind enough to reupload the yacht scene from the workprint that was taken down. It features an alternate take of Bond entering by firing instead of pointing his gun. Originally the idea was the Bond would go after Xenia on the yacht instead of after leaving but it was scrapped.
    Here's a behind the scenes photo of this. 1a91db2fc9a81168220f40bdc13ed49a.jpg
    This is a screenshot of the actual alternate take from the workprint.
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  • Gunbarrels007Gunbarrels007
    edited December 2015 Posts: 229
    This user also uploaded the rare original ending of the 1954 version of Casino Royale.
  • moneyofpropre2moneyofpropre2 France
    edited January 2016 Posts: 859
    Yes, this user is me (reupload it for the french dossier of deleted scene http://www.commander007.net/1995/11/goldeneye-les-scenes-coupees/). But what, you say me there was a chase between 007 and Xenia in the boat ? What sources ? Is a rumor ? This chase is in the workprint (smb saw it perssonaly) ? (why you have only 2 seconds of it ?), Because in the movie, we see the Amiral and Xenia leave the yacht with a boat before the arriving of Bond (in the yacth) (and a member of the crew look, calmly, the departing boat).
  • joshdeese93joshdeese93
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    Are there any additional Xenia Onatopp workprints/videos? (cut scenes from sex scene with Admiral, massacre at Severnaya, sauna scene, and jungle scene)
  • Gunbarrels007Gunbarrels007
    edited January 2016 Posts: 229
    joshdeese93 wrote: »
    Are there any additional Xenia Onatopp workprints/videos? (cut scenes from sex scene with Admiral, massacre at Severnaya, sauna scene, and jungle scene)
    Yes some scenes were shortened with the Admiral as well as the other cuts. Also compared to the workprint the final movie made a change in order of scenes. Originally, after Bond leaves M's office we cut straight to Bond visiting Q instead of the briefing scene by Ourumov with Mishkin and after that briefing the scene begins with Bond meeting Wade at the airport. I have made a reconstruction of this.

  • MotleyCat74MotleyCat74
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    Thx for the new info! ;)
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    I'm trying to decide whether or not I like that layout of scenes in the finished film or in the workprint more. It is nice seeing Bond handle his London business straight through (going from M's office, straight to Q's, then cutting to Ourumov's meeting with the board in St. Petersburg, then Bond's arrival there).
  • MotleyCat74MotleyCat74
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    Creasy47 wrote: »
    I'm trying to decide whether or not I like that layout of scenes in the finished film or in the workprint more. It is nice seeing Bond handle his London business straight through (going from M's office, straight to Q's, then cutting to Ourumov's meeting with the board in St. Petersburg, then Bond's arrival there).

    Hey Creasy, Robert Bolton said on one of his videos on YouTube to Jens that he'll try to get the headshot scene back.
  • Gunbarrels007Gunbarrels007
    edited January 2016 Posts: 229
    Creasy47 wrote: »
    I'm trying to decide whether or not I like that layout of scenes in the finished film or in the workprint more. It is nice seeing Bond handle his London business straight through (going from M's office, straight to Q's, then cutting to Ourumov's meeting with the board in St. Petersburg, then Bond's arrival there).
    Sorry for the late reply but I think Martin Campbell wanted to slow the pace of some scenes, I agree that the original sequence looks a bit rushed. Keep in mind that the transition as at 3.15 did not go that smoothly in movie maker so it's a second too short before the music of the St. Petersburg parade begun hence the awkward jumpt cut in the sound. Also something from the workprint is a longer version of Natalya's encounter with Boris and Xenia at the church. After he told her that it's him there's a short sequence where he explains what he is up to and she leaves with them.
  • Gunbarrels007Gunbarrels007
    edited January 2016 Posts: 229
    MotleyCat74 wrote: »
    Creasy47 wrote: »
    I'm trying to decide whether or not I like that layout of scenes in the finished film or in the workprint more. It is nice seeing Bond handle his London business straight through (going from M's office, straight to Q's, then cutting to Ourumov's meeting with the board in St. Petersburg, then Bond's arrival there).

    Hey Creasy, Robert Bolton said on one of his videos on YouTube to Jens that he'll try to get the headshot scene back.
    Yes I hope I will get that footage back because it shows a really grittier side of the film which worked better. In the meantime, I've shared this last week. A short clip of an early version of the chase scene without the Eric Serra score. Instead if you listen carefully it uses the music from the runway scene as a placeholder. It was taken from the Goldeneye documentary about Famke Janssen's character.
  • suavejmfsuavejmf Harrogate, North Yorkshire, England
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    It's still shit Serra music though. Unbondian.
  • joshdeese93joshdeese93
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    Gunbarrels007 wrote: »
    MotleyCat74 wrote: »
    Creasy47 wrote: »
    I'm trying to decide whether or not I like that layout of scenes in the finished film or in the workprint more. It is nice seeing Bond handle his London business straight through (going from M's office, straight to Q's, then cutting to Ourumov's meeting with the board in St. Petersburg, then Bond's arrival there).

    Hey Creasy, Robert Bolton said on one of his videos on YouTube to Jens that he'll try to get the headshot scene back.
    Yes I hope I will get that footage back because it shows a really grittier side of the film which worked better. In the meantime, I've shared this last week. A short clip of an early version of the chase scene without the Eric Serra score. Instead if you listen carefully it uses the music from the runway scene as a placeholder. It was taken from the Goldeneye documentary about Famke Janssen's character.

    I felt this music would have done well in the sauna scene as well.
  • MotleyCat74MotleyCat74
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    Gunbarrels007 wrote: »
    MotleyCat74 wrote: »
    Creasy47 wrote: »
    I'm trying to decide whether or not I like that layout of scenes in the finished film or in the workprint more. It is nice seeing Bond handle his London business straight through (going from M's office, straight to Q's, then cutting to Ourumov's meeting with the board in St. Petersburg, then Bond's arrival there).

    Hey Creasy, Robert Bolton said on one of his videos on YouTube to Jens that he'll try to get the headshot scene back.
    Yes I hope I will get that footage back because it shows a really grittier side of the film which worked better. In the meantime, I've shared this last week. A short clip of an early version of the chase scene without the Eric Serra score. Instead if you listen carefully it uses the music from the runway scene as a placeholder. It was taken from the Goldeneye documentary about Famke Janssen's character.

    That's good! We wish you the best of luck with that.
  • MotleyCat74MotleyCat74
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    Gunbarrels007 wrote: »
    MotleyCat74 wrote: »
    Creasy47 wrote: »
    I'm trying to decide whether or not I like that layout of scenes in the finished film or in the workprint more. It is nice seeing Bond handle his London business straight through (going from M's office, straight to Q's, then cutting to Ourumov's meeting with the board in St. Petersburg, then Bond's arrival there).

    Hey Creasy, Robert Bolton said on one of his videos on YouTube to Jens that he'll try to get the headshot scene back.
    Yes I hope I will get that footage back because it shows a really grittier side of the film which worked better. In the meantime, I've shared this last week. A short clip of an early version of the chase scene without the Eric Serra score. Instead if you listen carefully it uses the music from the runway scene as a placeholder. It was taken from the Goldeneye documentary about Famke Janssen's character.

    That's good! We wish you the best of luck with that.
  • MotleyCat74MotleyCat74
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    Just wanted to leave a comment hoping for new content.
  • MotleyCat74MotleyCat74
    edited January 2016 Posts: 114
    Robert just uploaded a new clip: a rough version of the Bond/Onatopp introduction scene.

    Robert also uploaded the helicopter escape scene.
  • MotleyCat74MotleyCat74
    Posts: 114
    One more thing, since Gunbarrels007 only posted the screenshot of the original yacht take where Bond fires his gun instead of just pointing it, I thought I'd post the actual clip itself from moneyofpropre2's YouTube channel.

    Oh, my God, this is more GE workprint than I can handle! :)
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    I wonder what cause Bond has for firing his gun on the yacht. Was he originally supposed to go toe-to-toe with Xenia and/or the Admiral, and then chase them to the frigate?
  • MotleyCat74MotleyCat74
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    Creasy47 wrote: »
    I wonder what cause Bond has for firing his gun on the yacht. Was he originally supposed to go toe-to-toe with Xenia and/or the Admiral, and then chase them to the frigate?

    I think so.
  • Gunbarrels007Gunbarrels007
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    I uploaded a short clip from the casino scene.

  • MotleyCat74MotleyCat74
    edited January 2016 Posts: 114
    Gunbarrels007 wrote: »
    I uploaded a short clip from the casino scene.


    That's good. I wanted to post the Ourumov scene you also uploaded.

    Hey viewers, there's a missing insert shot at 0:50 so don't miss it! Also, if you watch carefully, you may see an extra shot of the barrels falling on the guards at the end.

  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    Is it sad that I can immediately identify anything included and/or excluded in these scenes, no matter how tiny, because of the hundreds of times I've seen GE?
  • MotleyCat74MotleyCat74
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    Creasy47 wrote: »
    Is it sad that I can immediately identify anything included and/or excluded in these scenes, no matter how tiny, because of the hundreds of times I've seen GE?

    Of course not... I think.
  • Gunbarrels007Gunbarrels007
    edited January 2016 Posts: 229
    Creasy47 wrote: »
    Is it sad that I can immediately identify anything included and/or excluded in these scenes, no matter how tiny, because of the hundreds of times I've seen GE?
    Same goes for me.
    I know that this workprint is very sought after.
  • Gunbarrels007Gunbarrels007
    edited January 2016 Posts: 229
    MotleyCat74 wrote: »

    If you watch carefully, you may see an extra shot of the barrels falling on the guards at the end.

    The extra shot of the barrels falling down was from another clip from the workprint I uploaded on youtube a long time ago but I don't have that anymore. I hope this footage stays on youtube because i'm not going to retrieve deleted videos again. This is all I have right now and i'm also busy looking for other Bond movie rarities, such as the gunbarrel for the 1967 Casino Royale version I read about.
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