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Terminator: Dark Fate (2019)
Arnie has signed up and it has been revealed there will be three new stand alone movies based on the premise that the series will be a reboot!
What's wrong with the studios, don't they like original screenplays anymore? Don't they like being creative? Or is it the lure of a cgi money making strategy.
It really does upset me. Soon we will be watching reboots of reboots...batman, spiderman anyone?
Sick of it really, the original Terminator should not be touched. I even enjoyed Bale's movie, it was great, I don't why it got the slagging off it did? It set up a premise of the war that I would have liked to have seen some more of.
Oh well let's see how they destroy the legacy.
Skydance Productions, Annapurna Pictures and Paramount Pictures have jointly announced they will partner on a rebooted Terminator movie, to be released by Paramount Pictures on June 26, 2015.
The first in a stand-alone trilogy, Terminator will be produced by Megan Ellison of Annapurna and David Ellison of Skydance. Dana Goldberg and Paul Schwake of Skydance will serve as executive producers. Laeta Kalorgridis (Avatar, Shutter Island) and Patrick Lussier (Drive Angry) are attached to write the screenplay.
Launched in 1984 with star Arnold Schwarzenegger as the title character, Terminator spanned 3 subsequent films, which have earned over $1 billion at the worldwide box office.
David Ellison most recently executive produced, along with his partners at Paramount, World War Z, Star Trek Into Darkness, G.I. Joe: Retaliation and Mission: Impossible – Ghost Protocol. A 5th installment of in the "Mission: Impossible" franchise is in active development, along with a 3rd film in the "G.I. Joe" franchise, among other films.
Megan Ellison most recently produced the Academy Award®-nominated Zero Dark Thirty, The Master and executive produced Spring Breakers via her Annapurna Pictures banner and has David O. Russell's American Hustle, Spike Jonze's Her, and Bennett Miller's Foxcatcher set for release later this year.
What's wrong with the studios, don't they like original screenplays anymore? Don't they like being creative? Or is it the lure of a cgi money making strategy.
It really does upset me. Soon we will be watching reboots of reboots...batman, spiderman anyone?
Sick of it really, the original Terminator should not be touched. I even enjoyed Bale's movie, it was great, I don't why it got the slagging off it did? It set up a premise of the war that I would have liked to have seen some more of.
Oh well let's see how they destroy the legacy.
Skydance Productions, Annapurna Pictures and Paramount Pictures have jointly announced they will partner on a rebooted Terminator movie, to be released by Paramount Pictures on June 26, 2015.
The first in a stand-alone trilogy, Terminator will be produced by Megan Ellison of Annapurna and David Ellison of Skydance. Dana Goldberg and Paul Schwake of Skydance will serve as executive producers. Laeta Kalorgridis (Avatar, Shutter Island) and Patrick Lussier (Drive Angry) are attached to write the screenplay.
Launched in 1984 with star Arnold Schwarzenegger as the title character, Terminator spanned 3 subsequent films, which have earned over $1 billion at the worldwide box office.
David Ellison most recently executive produced, along with his partners at Paramount, World War Z, Star Trek Into Darkness, G.I. Joe: Retaliation and Mission: Impossible – Ghost Protocol. A 5th installment of in the "Mission: Impossible" franchise is in active development, along with a 3rd film in the "G.I. Joe" franchise, among other films.
Megan Ellison most recently produced the Academy Award®-nominated Zero Dark Thirty, The Master and executive produced Spring Breakers via her Annapurna Pictures banner and has David O. Russell's American Hustle, Spike Jonze's Her, and Bennett Miller's Foxcatcher set for release later this year.
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Why can´t they just make a decent film that stands for itself?
Original screenplays have always been more challenging, commercially, than films based on pre-existing IP.
Filmmaking is a very unusual business - unlike selling cars or cutlery or combine harvesters or computers, studios are producing and selling a one-off product every time. And they're expensive to make. And there's no way of knowing whether a film will be a success and make a lot of money or be a failure and lose a lot of money. Heaven's Gate is an example of what happens when things go very wrong.
As William Goldman wrote in Adventures in the Screen Trade, "nobody knows anything" i.e. you can't predict if a film will be successful before it hits cinemas. This is a problem hardwired into the film business. The best way to mitigate it is to make films that already have a pre-existing consumer base. That means films based on popular books or plays; or sequels or remakes; and usually with established stars.
It's not new: out of the 10 Best Picture winners from the 1940s, "the Golden Age of Hollywood," only 1 was an original screenplay. 8 were based on existing books or plays and a ninth, Casablanca, was based on an unproduced play. Almost every film Hitchcock ever made was based on pre-existing material and he even remade his own film, The Man Who Knew Too Much. The popular version of The Wizard of Oz starring Judy Garland was the sixth(!) time the story had been made into a film.
Without adaptations, remakes, sequels and prequels, the film industry as we know it wouldn't exist.
That aside, it definitely deserved a sequel. And now that Arnold is dedicated to coming back, whether or not the previous film made money is less of an issue as fans will come to see him back as the character regardless, no?
I whas happy to hear to Paramount going to make T5 because Paramount is connect with the T1 and T2 directer work for Paramount (and Fox) with Titanic/Avatar and Paramount have connections with Universal (T2 is re-released by them on BD and dvd, and a lot of Paramount movies (Animated) be released by Universal or the other way around who soon going to be released by Fox who going to take over Dreamworks.). Afterall Terminator franchise is a MGM/Fox/Sony/Universal/Paramount thing and Terminator 4 is more a Warner/Sony thing. So Warner runed the franchise, Christian Bale be in Terminator 4 i see symbol of Warner and there making the prequel tv series and my feeling be Terminator 4 feels a bit like that.
Mabey there get scary after Die Hard 5, but the good thing be is that it be easier to get a directer for T5 and 100 minutes movie is les of problem. The directer of Terminator 4 is not the problem. Note i haven't seen Die Hard 5 but i heard it is QOS of Die Hard franchise, it have left over from Die Hard 4 i whas afraid wil not happen and like Mi4 i like the idea it be a story with russians.
As a rule of thumb, a film generally needs to make back about 3 times its production budget to break even (cinemas take approx 50% of Box office and the distributor's P&A costs are usually at least 50% of the production budget.)
The Last Stand, his first starring role in 10 years, flopped badly.
The Last Stand was a stand alone feature though, the difference here would be Arnold returning to his most iconic role. Surely that would make a difference. Probably one of the reasons Salvation underperformed was because he wasn't in it?
Everyone knew it wasn't really him.
Lost money or not, it was better than T3, and that got a sequel.
I know but retro cgi Arnie just being pure evil had be hiding behing the sofa. T3 was awful like having ones testicals coated with honey and putting them in a bee hive.
If I have my Termintor chronology correct, Sarah Connor Chronicles was a tangent which branched from T2, in which she didn't get killed, while T3 and T4 were a different tangent extending from T2 in which Sarah is killed and Judgement Day happens.
I am happy at least that more Terminator is being served up. A re-boot makes for 3 different Terminator continuities, I guess.
They should stop force feeding us these CGI expensive films and just save the money and concentrate on more story driven tales.
Lincoln
Django
42
Crash
Several of these films did not do too badly at the box office and even won some Oscar Gold. They do not cost as much to make, the studio can earn back it's money that much faster. They would rather spend 200 million and sweat bullets that the film may not recoup its costs rather than spending 10-20 million and earn back the money the first weekend or two.
"If they keep serving slop, the people will acquire a taste for it."
Much as I loved The Sarah Connon Chronicles, and would love to see a continuation showing the time-misplaced John in a future where nobody knows who the hell he is, the show is sadly dead.
Then again, there's going to be a Veronica Mars movie. The future is not set.
Also, McG (what the hell kind of a fake name is that?) stated that his ideas for a fifth movie, set after Salvation, would have revealed that Sarah faked her death in order to survive Judgement Day.
Besides, as great as Schwarzenegger is, is he really going to return as a Terminator? He's too old. I thought the models for the machines were supposed to be near perfection?
Whilst I would be happy to explore more of the post apocalyptic point in the franchise, I am more happy that they have chosen to revisit the origins of the franchise whereby a mean killing machine is sent from the future to be unleashed on an unsuspecting public. The first movie The Terminator remains my favourite because it is sci-fi but first and foremost is a frightening horror of cat and mouse. Human fighting against all odds against an unstoppable machine that will never never give up until you are dead or somehow can destroy it first.
When it comes to hope that any future film in the series, reboot or not, will ever match or even top the quality of the first two, I have none. I rather think of the Terminator franchise as ranging, on average, from good to great, with the first two films being exceptionally great almost by accident. They benefit from Cameron's direct involvement, a luxury the other two never had. So, if the new film ends up between good and great, I'll be happy. To put a different spin on it, it doesn't have to be exceptionally great, like T-2, to get me excited for it.
I'm always interested to see what a new Terminator film brings. Because ultimately, the war against the machines offers fertile ground for truly impressive sci-fi stories. Yes, I can dig yet another Terminator film and I'm not ashamed to admit it. ;-)
That got a sequel because it made money. That's how it works. Sadly, it has little or nothing to do with the perceived quality of the film.