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  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    @Mallory, yeah, that's the best look I think we're ever going to see of it. Since it's been removed and they've had numerous chances to re-introduce it - I'm looking at you, 50th Anniversary re-releases - it isn't going to happen.
  • MalloryMallory
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    I personally don't want to see it, nor have it brought back. If they're going back to the Quantum organisation then it would be better to to re-introduce the organisation with only minor call backs to CR and QoS, much like Thunderball did with Spectre.
  • RC7RC7
    edited August 2013 Posts: 10,512
    Mallory wrote:
    The James Bond Archive elaborates on Purvis & Wade's original QoS Script:

    "The script featured a complex and emotionally powerful plot with Bond going in search of Vesper's Boyfriend. Bond then finds himself embroiled in a multilayered charade involving stolen antiquities, arms dealing, precious metals, nerve gas, the CIA, and a mysterious organisation similar to SPECTRE."

    'It had much closer links to Casino Royale, so much so that Eva Green was optionally contracted for the second film, where she would appear in flashbacks and as a spectre haunting Bond"

    "The plan to release a sequel in November 2007 was shelved. Wade and Purvis continued working on the screenplay and scouting the locations. In 2007, provisional date of December 10th 2007 was set. The draft script submitted in April has scenes sent in 8 countries; Italy, Algeria, Libya, Spain, France, Switzerland, Austria and Equatorial New Guinea.

    As in the final film, it started midway through a car chase with Mr White in the trunk of the car, followed by an interrogation, and a dramatic scene amidst the Siena Paulo. It also featured Quantum's secret summit at the Bregenz Festival and brought back Mathis, who would die helping Bond'

    Purvis and Wade's script is in there somewhere. I have to say I do like their idea, especially the Vesper flashbacks and haunting Bond.

    This is what I was referencing. I'd bloody love to read it. A lot of us have given P+W a kicking over the years, myself included, but I'd love to get my hands on this, if only to give a better idea of their specific input. With CR and SF either side, were they really all that bad? I know Haggis and Logan added content in varying amounts, but as they say, you can't polish a turd.

    As for the deleted end scene, I'd happily see it released, but I'm really not that fussed. It's one scene, of which we know the basic content.
  • SirHenryLeeChaChingSirHenryLeeChaChing
    edited August 2013 Posts: 3,494
    Creasy47 wrote:
    @Mallory, yeah, that's the best look I think we're ever going to see of it. Since it's been removed and they've had numerous chances to re-introduce it - I'm looking at you, 50th Anniversary re-releases - it isn't going to happen.

    Well. as @MrBond notes, some of it was shown on that Danish TV show so that might be something we could still yet see that is actually real. And that is possibly what I saw. I just can't remember any more than that.

    @RC7- I thought the CR script was much better as far as making sense at all times.
  • MalloryMallory
    Posts: 2,171
    RC7 wrote:
    Mallory wrote:
    The James Bond Archive elaborates on Purvis & Wade's original QoS Script:

    "The script featured a complex and emotionally powerful plot with Bond going in search of Vesper's Boyfriend. Bond then finds himself embroiled in a multilayered charade involving stolen antiquities, arms dealing, precious metals, nerve gas, the CIA, and a mysterious organisation similar to SPECTRE."

    'It had much closer links to Casino Royale, so much so that Eva Green was optionally contracted for the second film, where she would appear in flashbacks and as a spectre haunting Bond"

    "The plan to release a sequel in November 2007 was shelved. Wade and Purvis continued working on the screenplay and scouting the locations. In 2007, provisional date of December 10th 2007 was set. The draft script submitted in April has scenes sent in 8 countries; Italy, Algeria, Libya, Spain, France, Switzerland, Austria and Equatorial New Guinea.

    As in the final film, it started midway through a car chase with Mr White in the trunk of the car, followed by an interrogation, and a dramatic scene amidst the Siena Paulo. It also featured Quantum's secret summit at the Bregenz Festival and brought back Mathis, who would die helping Bond'

    Purvis and Wade's script is in there somewhere. I have to say I do like their idea, especially the Vesper flashbacks and haunting Bond.

    This is what I was referencing. I'd bloody love to read it. A lot of us have given P+W a kicking over the years, myself included, but I'd love to get my hands on this, if only to give a better idea of their specific input. With CR and SF either side, were they really all that bad? I know Haggis and Logan added content in varying amounts, but as they say, you can't polish a turd.

    As for the deleted end scene, I'd happily see it released, but I'm really not that fussed. It's one scene, of which we know the basic content.

    The way the book presents it is a case of:

    QoS: Haggis scrapped the script and started over but due to the writers strike he didnt have time, so he integrated his ideas into P&W's script quickly.

    Skyfall: Logan broke down P&W's script, and built a new one out of it, maintaining a lot of the original script, and continually consulted and worked with them on it to polish it up.
  • Samuel001Samuel001 Moderator
    edited August 2013 Posts: 13,356
    I think I saw that brief clip too, only a few seconds long of White, I think, holding a gun.
  • MrBondMrBond Station S
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    SirHenryLeeChaChing wrote:
    Creasy47 wrote:
    @Mallory, yeah, that's the best look I think we're ever going to see of it. Since it's been removed and they've had numerous chances to re-introduce it - I'm looking at you, 50th Anniversary re-releases - it isn't going to happen.

    Well. as @MrBond notes, some of it was shown on that Danish TV show so that might be something we could still yet see that is actually real.

    @RC7- I thought the CR script was much better as far as making sense at all times.

    Well, it seems like that clip has been taken down - again. Perhaps MGM/EoN has plans for that scene? ;)
  • MalloryMallory
    edited August 2013 Posts: 2,171
    Who knows. Six years separates QoS and SF, and there's 9 years between QoS and B24 (going by the film's timelines) so it wouldn't make much sense to have that scene at the beginning of B24 only to fast forward through to the present.

    My bet. Its long been discarded.
  • MalloryMallory
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    Samuel001 wrote:
    I think I saw that brief clip too, only a few seconds long of White, I think, holding a gun.

    This?

    http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j42/Mathis123/mrwhitedeleted.jpg
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
    Posts: 41,011
    Mallory wrote:
    Samuel001 wrote:
    I think I saw that brief clip too, only a few seconds long of White, I think, holding a gun.

    This?

    http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j42/Mathis123/mrwhitedeleted.jpg

    I've seen that photo before, but I think that's all I've seen in terms of the alternate ending.
  • Samuel001Samuel001 Moderator
    edited August 2013 Posts: 13,356
    Yes, that's it. The scene is from a report of the filming, so as I said earlier, no more than a minute. The video has been posted on the forums before.
  • MrBondMrBond Station S
    Posts: 2,044
    Samuel001 wrote:
    Yes, that's it. The scene is from a report of the filming, so as I said earlier, no more than a minute. The video has been posted on the forums before.

    Yes, but now it's gone again.
  • Samuel001Samuel001 Moderator
    Posts: 13,356
    MrBond wrote:
    Samuel001 wrote:
    Yes, that's it. The scene is from a report of the filming, so as I said earlier, no more than a minute. The video has been posted on the forums before.

    Yes, but now it's gone again.

    Again? I'm sure it's being uploaded all the time by someone.
  • ggl007ggl007 www.archivo007.com Spain, España
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    Mallory wrote:
    Samuel001 wrote:
    I think I saw that brief clip too, only a few seconds long of White, I think, holding a gun.

    This?

    http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j42/Mathis123/mrwhitedeleted.jpg

    This photo is inside the soundtrack booklet... 8-} :-))
  • PerdoggPerdogg
    Posts: 686
    Here is some information about the story to QoS according to NY Mag

    http://nymag.com/movies/features/51819/

    And this gem:

    http://nymag.com/daily/entertainment/2008/11/how_james_bond_nearly_became_a.html
  • MrBondMrBond Station S
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    This is a very intresting article about the script for QoS:

    http://n007.thegoldeneye.com/qos_script_chaos.html
  • SirHenryLeeChaChingSirHenryLeeChaChing
    Posts: 3,494
    MrBond wrote:
    This is a very intresting article about the script for QoS:

    http://n007.thegoldeneye.com/qos_script_chaos.html

    Only that he's dead wrong about QOS being the worst Bond film ever. I can think of 5 films that were worse due to poor scripts, outrageous cartoon and camp, CGI, Lee Tamahori, etc. Everyone has their own opinions and I don't claim QOS as even in the top 15 as some would disagree about, but it's not as bad as this guy claims either.

  • MrBondMrBond Station S
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    SirHenryLeeChaChing wrote:
    MrBond wrote:
    This is a very intresting article about the script for QoS:

    http://n007.thegoldeneye.com/qos_script_chaos.html

    Only that he's dead wrong about QOS being the worst Bond film ever. I can think of 5 films that were worse due to poor scripts, outrageous cartoon and camp, CGI, Lee Tamahori, etc. Everyone has their own opinions and I don't claim QOS as even in the top 15 as some would disagree about, but it's not as bad as this guy claims either.

    That i agree with, for me it is on #6.
    But the information of the script is intresting!

  • TheBondFanTheBondFan
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    1:14 I found part of the scene again. Lets hope this video isn't deleted.
  • MrBondMrBond Station S
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    Well, well, well! There it is! Great find!
  • TheBondFanTheBondFan
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    Thanks :D
  • WillyGaloreWillyGalore
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    Brilliant. Thanks @TheBondFan. Never seen that before :-)

    I assume Bond then shot and killed Mr White after
  • TheBondFanTheBondFan
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    I think White shot Haines, and Bond killed White.
  • TheBondFanTheBondFan
    edited August 2013 Posts: 822
    Pictures from the deleted ending:
    ldz8.jpg
    38xy.jpg
    4kqz.jpg
  • Samuel001Samuel001 Moderator
    edited August 2013 Posts: 13,356
    Thanks @TheBondFan. I've never seen that last picture before.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
    Posts: 41,011
    Very, very cool. Thanks a lot, @TheBondFan. Nice to see something relatively new from QoS.
  • oo7oo7
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    SirHenryLeeChaChing wrote:
    Creasy47 wrote:
    I'll have to give the CR script a read sometime. Looks pretty tasty. I'd also love to read the GE script, as well.

    @SirHenryLeeChaChing, I hate even thinking about the alternate ending to QoS any more. I know we'll never get to see it, so it just upsets me to think about. Can't believe the film didn't come with even a single deleted scene. Even in the finale, there were production photos that showed Bond running down a bridge (I believe) in a blue polo and sunglasses, yet in the finale, he doesn't step foot on a bridge (at least from what we see) and his outfit is entirely different.

    I got to check it out the CR script, there's extra dialogue and another CIA agent was substituted for Leiter. You can see some last minute changes were made. Go to @oo7's links to various script sites and you'll find both GF, GE, and TWINE there.

    I am guessing you missed the White/Haines scene when it was still available to see. Still almost hard to imagine 5 years on that an updated QOS with deleted scenes has yet to be released. It seems that EON is against doing so for whatever their reasons may be, but given what I've said above I really wouldn't trade in the final QOS scene in order to have the idea of QUANTUM's possible return killed off and that scene's inclusion would have opened the door for that much wider.

    some of the links i have not provided are merely people transcribing the dialog
  • PerdoggPerdogg
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    @Dragonpol

    Tom Mankiewicz wrote a script that Guy Hamilton rejected for TMWTGG that was eventually rewritten by Richard Maibaum. I wonder what was in it that caused Hamilton to reject it.
  • DragonpolDragonpol https://thebondologistblog.blogspot.com
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    Perdogg wrote:
    @Dragonpol

    Tom Mankiewicz wrote a script that Guy Hamilton rejected for TMWTGG that was eventually rewritten by Richard Maibaum. I wonder what was in it that caused Hamilton to reject it.

    Not sure, but I wasn't aware of that story. Very interesting indeed. I had thought that Mankiewicz had reworked Maibaum's original script to include the energy crisis and had then rejected Maibaum's idea of a mano-a-mano duel between Bond and Scaramanga a la Shane as the whole plot as it seemed to simplistic. I could be wrong here. Steven Jay Rubin's The James Bond Films has more on this, so I'll really need to consult that and get back to you, @Perdogg.
  • DragonpolDragonpol https://thebondologistblog.blogspot.com
    edited August 2013 Posts: 18,342
    TheBondFan wrote:
    Pictures from the deleted ending:
    ldz8.jpg
    38xy.jpg
    4kqz.jpg

    Wow! Thanks for that. Are there any links to what the deleted ending was composed of and how it differed from the ending we ultimately got? If so, can someone please provide links?
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