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In honour of that, we rewatched them both on the small screen together back to back a few yrs ago. Awesome stuff.
I once watched The Two Towers and Return of the King back to back. That was heavy going.
DN/FRWL go well together, as do GF/TB, TSWLM/MR (despite the tonal variations), and the two Dalton films (since they capture and bookend his entire tenure).
I agree that the Dalton films make a great double bill. It feels really satisfying to cover his entire tenure in one sitting. I've never tried Spy/Raker before, I Imagine that would be pretty epic. I tend to pair TB with YOLT more than anything.
Daltons 2 I have watched many times back to back. Its a superb double bill!
FYEO and OP are also worth watching together!
I was in search of the ultimate ranking of the Bond movies and I believe I have found it.
It's dramatically different in places to what I considered my ranking up to a couple of months ago.
I can see clearly now and here is it is:
1 OHMSS
2 GF
3 FRWL
4 CR
5 TSWLM
6 GE
7 TLD
8 FYEO
9 SP
10 DN
11 QOS
12 DAF
13 MR
14 TND
15 OP
16 LALD
17 LTK
18 DAD
19 YOLT
20 AVTAK
21 TB
22 TWINE
23 TMWTGG
24 SF
You've come round on SP!
You know I made several rankings. One based on how I would objectively rank the movies. One was my old ranking that had a lot of nostalgic reasons for rankings in it and one based on the fun-factor, the Bond films I love to watch most (re-watchability).
Based from those three rankings I made this ultimate ranking.
I could never seriously claim Spectre is the best Bond movie ever made, objectively speaking. It would not even appear in my Top 10. But re-watchability is very high and the "nostalgia" factor is highest as it was the greatest cinematic experience in a decade for me (only rivalled by Batman Begins).
As for Skyfall. Objectively I'd rank it in the middle as even the most idiotic story (holes) in the franchise can't completely destroy the greatness of the Cinematography, Cast, Direction and the Skyfall Sequence (minus the bloody flashlight incident).
But re-watchability factor is ZERO for me. And I was hugely disappointed seeing it at the cinema.
So yes, finally I realise this is the bottom film for me. And I'm not the only one, I know at least two other regular members of this site have it at No 24 as well.
The highest jump made DAF, I explained it in another thread, short story: From bottom to No 12 because DAF is the most re-watchable Bond film for me, and today I LOVE the humour, the gay Wint & Kidd, Tiffany and the silly car chase through Las Vegas or the moon buggy.
Objectively it is still the least good Bond ever made, but boy is it fun to watch it.
OP suffered the most in my new ranking. From 6 to 15. It never had left my Top 6. But it was mainly for nostalgia. Without that factor No 15 seems right.
SP, GE, TLD, OHMSS, CR, FRWL, GF that was my Top 8 before (OP was 6), so these 7 movies have remained in my Top 10 if in slightly different order.
I can discuss a lot of things but not that OHMSS and FRWL and GE are the best three Bond movies. Nobody and nothing will ever convince me otherwise and I always said so even when I ranked them 3rd, 6th and 7th (before SP).
Sir, where have you been?! :-w
I agree with you for the most part, literally, due to the similarity of our rankings.
Our main difference is spectre and I expect the reason you rank SF last is why I rank both Mendes movies last. There's no rewatchability, bad pacing, (mostly) uninspired action sequences and worst of all horrendous score
My main source of enjoyment is the Q and M scenes
and never get tired of it!
I think it's pretty fair. Any comments or critiques??
Rankings
1. Goldfinger
2. On Her Majesty's Secret Service
3. Casino Royale
4. Thunderball
5. Spectre
6. Dr. No
7. From Russia With Love
8. The Spy Who Loved Me
9. Live And Let Die
10. The Living Daylights
11. Moonraker
12. The Man With The Golden Gun
13. Diamonds Are Forever
14. License To Kill
15. Goldeneye
17. The World Is Not Enough
17. For your Eyes Only
18. Quantum Of Solace
19. Tomorrow Never Dies
20. Skyfall
21. Octopussy
22. You Only Live Twice
23. A View To A Kill
24. Die Another Die
It's about there on my list too. Agreed. I still maintain that the pre-title sequence of SP is iconic Bond too.
It's based on what I think the best overall films are. License To Kill is a great 80s action movie but it just doesn't have a classic Bond feel to it.
Quantum Of Solace is also a fun movie, exotic locations. Just watched it again last week.. I feel like the movie is rushed though. Something about it doesn't give off classic Bond vibes to me. I am big about traditional Bond moments in the films.. I am sure if I rewatched the entire series I would probably move some of the films around..
Moonraker is sitting where it's at because, yes the humor is great imo and Jaws and Bonds interacting is fantastic! I love how they always stop and kinda smile at each other.
Several great chase scenes, outer space, Bond free falling out of the plane.. Many great moments!
Maybe it's ranked too high but I think it's a classic.
I fee like if you watched my list backwards, starting with "Die Another Day", to "Goldfinger", you'd feel like the movies get better and better when you move up the list!
2. From Russia With Love
3. Dr No
4. The Living Daylights
5. Casino Royale
6.OHMSS
7. Quantum of Solace
8. Spectre
9. Skyfall
10. For Your Eyes Only
11. Goldeneye
12. The Spy Who Loved Me
13. Thunderball
14. The World Is Not Enough
15. You Only Live Twice
16. Tomorrow Never Dies
17. Octopussy
18. The Man With The Golden Gun
19. A View To A Kill
20. Moonraker
21. Licence To Kill
22. Live And Let Die
23. Die Another Day
24. Diamonds Are Forever
I know I've been gone a loooooong time, but I just checked your most recent ranking and I heartily approve of your new TWINE and other Broz placements. *salutes*
@bondjames - Hope all is well with you also. I know we used to chit chat on here as well and got along well.
I'll try to be more active. Just been giving Bond a pretty long break.
I'm keen to see it again. Sort of. I figure I've about had my fill of long-winded points and discussions and arguments on it though, haha. It is sitting with me about where I had it last ranking (low teens, I believe).
@bondjames - Any big shifts in your own Bond rankings? I try to keep up with my acquaintances' Bond opinions haha, as I did with Birdleson.
1. Goldfinger
2. Dr. No
3. From Russia With Love
4. The Spy Who Loved Me
5. Thunderball
6. The Living Daylights
7. On Her Majesty's Secret Service
8. Casino Royale
9. Octopussy -NSNA tied
10. Licence To Kill
12. Live and Let Die
13. For Your Eyes Only
14. A View To A Kill
14. Diamonds Are Forever
15. You Only Live Twice
16. GoldenEye
17. Skyfall
18. Spectre
19. The Man With The Golden Gun- CR '54 tied
20. Moonraker
21. The World Is Not Enough -CR '67 tied
22. Tomorrow Never Dies
23. Quantum of Solace
24. Die Another Day
1. Quantum of Solace
2. Spectre
3. Casino Royale
4. Skyfall
5. The Living Daylights
6. Licence to Kill
7. Goldeneye
8. Dr No
9. On Her Majesty's Secret Service
10. For Your Eyes Only
11. Tomorrow Never Dies
12. From Russia with Love
13. You Only Live Twice
14. Octopussy
15. The Man with the Golden Gun
16. The Spy Who Loved Me
17. Live and Let Die
18. Goldfinger
19. The World is Not Enough
20. Thunderball
21. Die Another Day
22. Moonraker
23. Diamonds are Forever
24. A View to a Kill
I'm not going to pretend that this list is objective but this is what floats my boat - anything with Dan or Tim and a bit of Roger cheese thrown in for good measure. However, I do love them all, even my bottom 4 picks still have a lot of classic moments to enjoy.
If I was trying to be objective, I think CR, OHMSS and FRWL are probably the highest quality films, but they aren't necessarily the ones we enjoy most.