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I was on at the time but I remember the disputes only vaguely. But I do remember how the SP reviews got steadily negative over time, after the kind of mixed reviews at release.
Shame about the personal attacks though.
"Effective immediately, your licence to judge films is revoked. And I require you to hand over your brain. Now."
Hahahaha, ay good for you man, you got it right.
I loved SP when it came out like some but it has only fallen in the ranks since then.
OMG that is hilarious, everyone loves it so much it’s insane. I mean I guess apart from you.
In all seriousness, I found the numerous first places that were awarded to SP pretty funny in light of how it's viewed now.
Yeah, everyone’s like “ oh this is the best craig film oh top 5 of the whole series oh better than skyfall” that’s like 90% of people and now it’s the other way around
The hysteria was greater than I imagined. I'll be interested to see if it's like that for B25.
I definitely recall you getting royally chewed out for your ranking and comments in those early days, and the attacks were unduly harsh. I received similar backlash from a few specific members for just being critical even though I had it ranked mid pack for some time. They pretty much tore me a new one on the box office thread. It's not easy being critical of the latest Bond entry.
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Regarding the SF comparisons - as I've mentioned before, folks did dissect SF quite relentlessly here for years prior to SP's release. All kinds of facets of the film were discussed in depth. I really enjoyed the film, and so didn't really take much notice of all the dissent, but it certainly was there in 2013/2014. I wasn't involved in 2012 so am not sure what people thought upon release.
I will say that SP has been a very contentious film for this fan community. Shame, and I hope EON don't give us something that polarizing again for some time.
I like SPECTRE and I'm pretty comfortable with dislike for it, especially if it's civil. So I'm predisposed to think its reputation will only improve over time in context and familiarity and alongside other missions. If not, that's okay, too. I'll always have it.
Now I despise it for the retcon that tarnishes the whole Craig era, Madeleine, Denbigh and the whole Nine Eyes plot, the boring score, the yellow filter, the unexciting action, and an atrocious third act.
They should've left SPECTRE in the 60s. Just my opinion.
You are remarkably consistent.
Glad to see though the majority of lists here still have DAD at bottom. For me there will never be any Bond film that takes its place as worst ever!
I think I had it anywhere from 6-8 upon that initial viewing, but the honeymoon phase and new-movie-feel wore off quick. The Mendes films are the only two that simply do nothing for me to any degree, whereas I'm eager and happy to rewatch all the others at any time.
The above is from March this year. Thought I'd round out 2017 with an end of year ranking.
1. Dr.No
2. From Russia With Love
3. On Her Majesty's Secret Service
4. The Living Daylights
5. Octopussy
6. Casino Royale
7. Goldfinger
8. The Spy Who Loved Me
9. Thunderball
10. For Your Eyes Only
11. You Only Live Twice
12. GoldenEye
13. Live And Let Die
14. Spectre
15. Licence To Kill
16. Diamonds Are Forever
17. Skyfall
18. Moonraker
19. Die Another Day
20. The Man With The Golden Gun
21. Tomorrow Never Dies
22. A View To A Kill
23. Quantum Of Solace
24. The World Is Not Enough
Not too many changes. I think a Bondathon in early 2018 could mix things up a bit. ;)
1. Goldfinger
2. From Russia With Love
3. Dr No
4. The Living Daylights
5. Casino Royale
6. On Her Majesty's Secret Service
7. Quantum Of Solace
8. Thunderball
9. Skyfall
10. For Your Eyes Only
11. The Spy Who Loved Me
12. Goldeneye
13. Tomorrow Never Dies
14. Spectre
15. You Only Live Twice
16. Octopussy
17. The World Is Not Enough
18. Diamonds Are Forever
19. Live And Let Die
20. Licence To Kill
21. A View To A Kill
22. Moonraker
23. The Man With The Golden Gun
24. Die Another Day
http://www.digitalspy.com/movies/feature/g24653/bond-movies-films-007-ranked-worst-best/?
There were a few things I was not aware of re: the film Nolan was influenced by and also Craig and Mendes favourite Bond film. Two of the top 3 are in my top 3.
Interesting. I stopped reading the comments after DAD and DAF and AVTAK though. Filled with prejudice and snarky comments. Surely not done by a Bond fan.
Given the huge monetary success of DAD and DAF they don't speak for the general public either I would say.
Agree the lower ranked Bond films they were taking shots at them, I think rankings like this one were probably selected by office staff lol
1.0 being the Bond film I place lowest and 10.0 being the Bond film I place highest.
What this shows is not a classic rating like to be found on ImdB for instance but it shows the distance from one film to the other over a scale of 100 notches.
..."I'm having fun with my headlines ranking." ....ha ha....
I doubt the person who made the final choice on this ranking ever watched any of those films all the way thru. They probably just saw bits and pieces of AVTAK , DAF, etc played during a Bond Marathon on Thanksgiving.
Just to spite them- here's my newest ranking:
1. GOLDFINGER
2. FROM RUSSIA WITH LOVE
3. ON HER MAJESTY'S SECRET SERVICE
4. DR NO
5. THE SPY WHO LOVED ME
6. THUNDERBALL
7. OCTOPUSSY/NEVER SAY NEVER AGAIN
8. LICENCE TO KILL
9. THE LIVING DAYLIGHTS
10. CASINO ROYALE 06
11. LIVE AND LET DIE
12. SKYFALL
13. A VIEW TO A KILL
14. DIAMONDS ARE FOREVER
15. YOU ONLY LIVE TWICE
16. FOR YOUR EYES ONLY
17. GOLDENEYE
18. THE MAN WITH THE GOLDEN GUN
19. MOONRAKER
20. SPECTRE
21. QUANTUM OF SOLACE
22. THE WORLD IS NOT ENOUGH
23. TOMORROW NEVER DIES
24. DIE ANOTHER DAY
I have a hard time not ranking the very early Connery's at the top.
You don't like Jaws. Your opinion means absolutely nothing ;)