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you get frightening...no, not because you place DAD over SF :))
but because you seem to be my long lost twin brother when it comes to Bond rankings.
Not exactly news I know, we have realised that before as our Top 6 was made of the same movies.
But now, that I have started another Bondathon I consider FYEO and MR Top 10 material. MR was on spot 11 before. FYEO went from 15 to No 7.
Meaning 9 out of 10 movies are the same in our Top 10 now!
And even further down in the list it is very similar, with notable exceptions being DAF which remains my No 23 and DAD which is now on No 12 (down from 10).
I will give my new definitive ranking when I have finished the Bondathon. I'm watching 2 movies a day in random order with someone that hasn't seen most of them.
I enjoyed it a lot more than I anticipated but the other 22 films are better :) It's a shame because QoS has some beautiful shots and camera angles but the cuts are too quick to enjoy them (see the car chase for many examples)
@BondJasonBond006
GE was so close to being booted off 6th, but I love Campbell's direction, and the characters. Spectre has a chance of knocking it off.
I wonder if our reasons are the same.
Tomorrow Never Dies I visited the set of, so again, sentimental reasons. It’s also a strong action film with good pacing… anyway here’s the list.
1. Casino Royale
2. On Her Majesty's Secret Service
3. GoldenEye
4. Skyfall
5. From Russia With Love
6. Goldfinger
7. Tomorrow Never Dies
8. The Spy Who Loved Me
9. Octopussy
10. Licence to Kill
11. The Living Daylights
12. A View to a Kill (sentimental reasons, I’ve always enjoyed it)
13. Moonraker
14. For Your Eyes Only
15. The Man with the Golden Gun
16. You Only Live Twice
17. Live and Let Die
18. The World is Not Enough
19. Diamonds Are Forever
20. Dr No
21. Quantum of Solace
22. Thunderball (Too much underwater dross)
23. Die Another Day
Impressive! @MarcFC15
Thanks guys :)
But OP in a top ten or higher. You're on to a winner. ;)
@Benny
:D
I can't not like that film. The pacing is amazing, Moore is brilliant and everyone is extremely charismatic.
The only issue is the Tarzan yell, hiss off, sitttt, eyeing up some boobs with a seriously outdated camera, and making fun of the locals during the rickshaw chase.
If not for the above, it would be a top 3 or 4 for me. It's that entertaining, and so much fun.
These are the current standings, with preceded by the mean differences I calculated:
01. +537: "GOLDFINGER"
02. +497: "CASINO ROYALE"
03. +467: "FROM RUSSIA WITH LOVE"
04. +325: "DOCTOR NO"
05. +278: "SKYFALL"
06. +260: "THE SPY WHO LOVED ME"
07. +249: "YOU ONLY LIVE TWICE"
08. +240: "LIVE AND LET DIE"
09. +164: "THUNDERBALL"
10. +151: "ON HER MAJESTY'S SECRET SERVICE"
11. +141: "GOLDENEYE"
12. +139: "THE MAN WITH THE GOLDEN GUN"
13. +037: "THE LIVING DAYLIGHTS"
14. +024: "DIAMONDS ARE FOREVER"
15. +023: "FOR YOUR EYES ONLY"
16. -018: "LICENCE TO KILL"
17. -077: "TOMORROW NEVER DIES"
18. -106: "MOONRAKER"
19. -130: "QUANTUM OF SOLACE"
20. -133: "A VIEW TO A KILL"
21. -134: "OCTOPUSSY"
22. -161: "THE WORLD IS NOT ENOUGH"
23. -300: "DIE ANOTHER DAY"
So far, all of Connery's first five Bond films are in the TOP 10. Two of Craig's outings are firmly accompanying Connery in the TOP 5. Roger Moore has two outings in the TOP 10. And entering the TOP 10 is Lazenby's only outing as 007.
Timothy Dalton and Pierce Brosnan are screwed in this poll. No TOP 10 for these actors :-). Three of Brosnan's outings can be found in the BOTTOM 10. So sad....
I find it so fascinating to see what average (newspaper) readers think of the Bond films instead of us geeky, nerdy, Bond fans ;-). Apparently, the two films of Craig and Connery's first three films are really liked most. I really think that Daniel Craig really did something amazing to the franchise. Shall we say...we are experiencing the..."2nd Golden Age of 007" since the mid 1960's?
In 10 years we would get a better picture.
But to say the Craig era is a 2nd golden age is ridiculous.
It has produced ONE great classic that is CR that will stand the test of time.
SF on the other hand will have the same fate as TB and be nowhere near the top.
And QOS...well...
Well everything can be seen from different perspectives. If you put it that way, I go with it. 2nd golden age.
I'll agree with this. Plus the Brosnan era had no 'great films' just a solid but adequate debut with GE.
-There's definitely some pro-Connery bias out there. GF isn't even his best!
-Agree with the placement of Craig's movies.
-Agree with the public's rank of OHMSS. I don't see the classic that most Bond fans see.
-Dalton gets crushed here. Ouch! Are they serious?
-Good on the poll on recognizing DAF's flaws, but it's still getting a Connery boost.
-Brosnan and Moore's films are about where they belong. GE could use a bit more love.
-If SP is good, there's going to be a lot of public talk about Craig being the best.
Brosnan was much smoother, but too lightweight (literally and acting wise) to be memorable beyond GE (which was great primarily due to the Campbell's brilliant direction and supporting cast choices - anyone could have played Bond in that film).
Moore was well above average in his best entries but perhaps too pretty to be deadly enough in the role. His line delivery was brilliant though and he certainly had the gravitas and smoothness required.
Lazenby was physically brilliant and did vulnerable best, but it's not possible to judge him properly on that one film (which happens to be an amazing novel to film and is an incredibly choreographed movie with a magnificent turn by Rigg).
Craig has a bona fide all time classic in CR (I will post my review in the Bondathon thread shortly) but has been uneven since. QoS is highly underrated as a film due to the idiot who did the editing, and SF is overrated (based on my recent rewatches).
Connery is the man (based on the Bondathon). Nobody even comes close to him. He has 3 classics (yes, including TB) with the Young trilogy.
Yes, @Birdleson, I agree that Moore was pretty bad when he was playing it for laughs.
I personally have never really been able to get into GF (I think Connery's performance in that one is a little goofy compared to the Young films...definitely noted it during my recent rewatch.....the edge that Young gave him seems missing to me....the killer look/stare/delivery). I however respect the film immensely for its undeniable contribution to the history of the franchise. Without it, Bond films would be far less iconic. Even SP is going to borrow heavily from that blueprint (larger than life villain, grand sets, tricked out Aston, spunky heroine, thuggish henchman etc. etc.).
He said that "in comedy the moment the audience can see you know the joke, its over and they don't laugh".
It made me realise that both Brosnan AND Moore were guilty of this (Brosnan particularly).
But its one reason I'm not a fan of Moore in MR. He's too knowing of the fact its all a joke. Hence I don't laugh.
1. CR
2. OHMSS
3. FRWL
4. GF
5. FYEO
6. TSWLM
7. DN
8. GE
9. TLD
10. TB
11. LTK
12. SF
13. LALD
14. MR
15. TMWTGG
16. OP
17. TWINE
18. QOS
19. YOLT
20. DAF
21. TND
22. DAD
23. AVTAK
1. Casino Royale (2006) - 10/10
2. Goldfinger (1964) - 9/10
3. From Russia With Love (1963) - 9/10
4. Dr. No (1962) - 8.5/10
5. On Her Majesty’s Secret Service (1969) 8.5/10
6. The Living Daylights (1987) 8.5/10
7. Skyfall (2012) - 8/10
8. Thunderball (1965) - 8/10
9. GoldenEye (1995) - 8/10
10. Licence to Kill (1989) - 7.5/10
11. Tomorrow Never Dies (1997) - 7/10
12. The Spy Who Loved Me (1977) - 7/10
13. Octopussy (1983) - 6.5/10
14. Quantum of Solace (2008) - 6/10
15. For Your Eyes Only (1981) - 6/10
16. Diamonds Are Forever (1971) - 6/10
17. Live and Let Die (1973) - 6/10
18. The World Is Not Enough (1999) - 6/10
(Never Say Never Again) [1983] - 6/10
19. You Only Live Twice (1967) - 6/10
20. A View to a Kill (1985) -5.5/10
21. Moonraker (1979) - 5.5/10
22. Die Another Day (2002) - 5/10
23. The Man with the Golden Gun (1974) - 5/10
Some notes:
- Surprised myself with how "high" I put Quantum of Solace. It hasn't been in the top 15 for a while.
- OHMSS is a top 5 entry for me for the first time I can remember.
- Skyfall is not a top 5 entry for the first time I can remember.
- Lots of 6/10s, I notice. Some fight an uphill battle to get that '6' (Diamonds Are Forever) and others fell from a better score to get it (Quantum of Solace). A lot of those movies were hard to place and are viable to change at any time.
1. CR
2. FRWL
3. GF
4. SF
5. TSWLM
6. GE
7. OHMSS
8. DN
9. TB
10. QOS
11. TND
12. TLD
13. YOLT
14. LTK
15. TMWTGG
16. FYEO
17. TWINE
18. OP
19. DAF
20. AVTAK
21. DAD
22. MR
23. LALD
I already know what you're thinking about QOS and LALD... :-h
Welcome to the forums. You have a very good list!
Thank you very much, M!
2 & 3) GF and OHMSS
4) DN
5) TWINE
6) GE
7) TSWLM
8) TLD
9) CR
10) FYEO
11) SF
12) OP
13) YOLT
14) LALD
15) TB
16) TND
17) LTK
18) TMWTGG
19) DAF
20) MR
21) DAD
22) AVTAK
23) QOS
And also a very nice top 12 from @007ClassicBondFan . Always like seeing OP make anyone's top ten. But anything over 13th is good. ;)