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Elaborate please. You know what Bond films are about no?
1. The Living Daylights
2. From Russia With Love
3. On Her Majesty's Secret Service
4. Goldfinger
5. Casino Royale
6. Skyfall
7. Dr. No
8. Goldeneye
9. Live and Let Die
10. Quantum of Solace
11. Spectre
12. License to Kill
13. For Your Eyes Only
14. Octopussy
15. Tomorrow Never Dies
16. A View to a Kill
17. Moonraker
18. Thunderball
19. Diamonds are Forever
20. The Spy Who Loved Me
21. You Only Live Twice
21. The Man with the Golden Gun
23. Die Another Day
24. The World is Not Enough
It might change if you asked me tomorrow.
1. THUNDERBALL
2. GOLDFINGER
3. DR. NO
4. FROM RUSSIA WITH LOVE
5. GOLDENEYE
6. CASINO ROYALE
7. THE SPY WHO LOVED ME
8. OCTOPUSSY
9. THE LIVING DAYLIGHTS
10. MOONRAKER
11. LIVE AND LET DIE
12. SKYFALL
13. DIAMONDS ARE FOREVER
14. A VIEW TO A KILL
15. YOU ONLY LIVE TWICE
16. TOMORROW NEVER DIES
17. FOR YOUR EYES ONLY
18. LICENCE TO KILL
19. SPECTRE *
20. ON HER MAJESTY'S SECRET SERVICE
21. DIE ANOTHER DAY
22. THE MAN WITH THE GOLDEN GUN
23. QUANTUM OF SOLACE
24. THE WORLD IS NOT ENOUGH
25. NEVER SAY NEVER AGAIN
* There's a lot that I like, but after two viewings the flaws really start to show. The writing for this movie, which I maintain is of utmost importance for films like these, ranges from mediocre to downright terrible. I despise the Oberhauser "angle" that I won't spoil in this thread. I hate it more than almost anything in the series. So contrived it hurts, so very much the antithesis of everything Spectre is trying to be (a throwback, more aloof, traditional, etc.). It's just more of the same "digging into Bond's past" I'm sick of in the Craig era. On that note, Christoph Waltz commits the cardinal sin for a Bond villain -- he's boring. Didn't find him menacing or spooky or even over the top fun like some other Bond villains (Grey's Blofeld being one example).
Craig's performance is a mixed bag. Perhaps his weakest of the four (although I do think he's better at humor than he gives himself credit for). That said, about half of the humor worked for me, and when it didn't, it really didn't.
The last 20 minutes or so are awful, and anti-climactic.
Everything on the train, however, makes the film worth the price of admission. Love, love, love those 5-10 minutes. Like I said, there is a lot I like (The PTS, Lea Seydoux, SPECTRE meeting, Bautista, few other things I can't say because they are spoilers).
I definitely didn't outright dislike it overall (I think I would enjoy it more once I have it on Blu-ray so I can stop it before the final act) but yeah, it seems like you and I had similar reactions.
Dialogue was often painfully bad (a shame, too, when you've got actors like Craig and Seydoux and Waltz delivering those lines). "Kite dancing in a hurricane," however, remains one of my favorite lines in the entire franchise.
Perhaps what disappoints me the most is that Spectre so badly wants to be the Bond film that I've been asking for since 2006 - which is throwing Daniel Craig in a Connery/Moore style Bond film and just seeing what happens. But something just doesn't feel right. Maybe it's the tone shifts. Maybe it's the fact that the film wants to have its cake and eat it too.
I think the producers feel that the audience needs some personal connection with Bond to whatever is going on to really invest which I think is bullshit. I find it almost more compelling if it's just a man, out on a mission, doing his job and that's it.
This is basically my gripe with it. And then they do those "this time's it's PERSONAL" bits as ham-handedly as possible. How many times do we need some of these angles?
Yes, it's definitely the tonal shifts. They are jarring (at least on first viewing).
I was trying to remember what it reminded me of, and it came to me today. Kingsman. It reminds me a lot of Kingsman, which also had strange shifts in tone which came out of nowhere.
It's predictable in places, and then throws you a curveball which you have to let sink in and process. How dare they?
That's why I think it needs a few viewings to let it all sink in. This one won't give you the full picture on first, or even second viewing imho.
I don't blame Craig. I liked his performance all in all, although I can see why some say he looks sick of the role (that said, it actually aided the performance in a way I think, as he seems extremely laid back and confident, which I like).
Abso-bloody-lutely.
It's a shame, really, that SPECTRE was such a disappointment. I've never been Craig's biggest fan, but in recent Bondathons, I had really started to dig his take on Bond, with CR managing to break into the upper echelons of my ranking and SF even breaking into my top ten. And SPECTRE certainly taints those films somewhat now. I'll still enjoy both CR and SF, but they will never feel the same as the events of SPECTRE will now forever be ingrained in my mind. What a shame.
I was looking up your ranking again. Sure one of the most interesting ones.
Also your input is always interesting to read :)
If I look at your ranking I can understand that you rank Spectre that low. It makes sense to me.
1 Goldeneye
2 The world is not enough
3 Tomorrow never dies
4 Die Another day
5 Dr No
6 Thunderball
7 Goldfinger
8 The living daylights
9 The Spy who loved
10 Casino Royale
11 Spectre
12 From Russia with love
13 Skyfall
14 Licence to kill
15 Moonraker
16 you only live Twice
17 for your eyes only
18 diamonds are forever
19 quantum of Solace
20 Octopussy
21 the man with the golden gun
22 On her Majesty's secret service
23 a view to kill
24 Live and let die
@-)
What can i say ?
Sorry to disappoint you but the 4 films Pierce made are my favorites and the ones i enjoyed the most, besides no one asked about being objective.
I totally agree @dinovelvet !!
What ridiculous top 4 when everybody knows that the proper order is:
1. Goldeneye
2. Tomorrow Never Dies
3. Die Another Day
4. The World Is Not Enough
!!
:))
Yes sir
:))
I will change it inmediatley.
You are a kite, dancing in a hurricane Mr. @Birdleson
01. Casino Royale (2006)
02. Goldfinger
03. From Russia With Love
04. Skyfall
05. The Living Daylights
06. Spectre
07. Thunderball
08. On Her Majesty's Secret Service
09. The Spy Who Loved Me
10. GoldenEye
11. Licence to Kill
12. Dr. No
13. Quantum of Solace
14. For Your Eyes Only
15. Tomorrow Never Dies
16. You Only Live Twice
17. Live and Let Die
18. The Man With the Golden Gun
19. Diamonds Are Forever
20. The World is Not Enough
21. A View to a Kill
22. Octopussy
23. Moonraker
24. Die Another Day
25. Never Say Never Again
1. Spectre, Casino Royale
3. Skyfall
4. Goldeneye
5. From Russia with Love
6. Goldfinger
7. The Spy who Loved Me
8. The Living Daylights
9. On Her Majesty's Secret Service
10. Live and Let Die
11. Dr. No
12. The World is Not Enough
13. Moonraker
14. Thunderball
15. Quantum of Solace
16. Tomorrow Never Dies
17. You Only Live Twice
18. Octopussy
19. A View to a Kill
20. License to Kill
21. The Man With the Golden Gun
22. Diamonds are Forever
23. Die Another Day
24. For Your Eyes Only (I'm getting killed for this, aren't I?)
Bravo! =D>
Your No 24 isn't as disturbing as your No 3 :))
but with Spectre at No 1 ALL IS FORGIVEN :))
Not for my eyes anyway.
Please tell me this list is a joke!..........you have 0 out of 24 for correct placings! :))
:-?
FYEO ........ may have a soundtrack, that seems dated now ..........but the film has a good story ...........and some fantastic action scenes!
I can't believe this member has FYEO as the worst Bond film ever. Talk about having a death wish!
Looks like we may have to send Mr Hinx to have a word with this person! :)