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  • Now that I've seen Spectre and after rewatching tons of these to get myself in the mood, I guess it's the perfect time to do a rerank.

    GREAT
    1. The Living Daylights
    2. Goldeneye
    3. The Spy Who Loved Me
    4. Casino Royale
    5. On Her Majesty's Secret Service
    6. Thunderball
    7. Goldfinger
    8. From Russia With Love
    9. Skyfall
    GOOD
    10. Moonraker
    11. Spectre
    12. For Your Eyes Only
    13. Live And Let Die
    14. Octopussy
    15. Diamonds Are Forever
    16. Dr No
    17. The Man With The Golden Gun
    18. Tomorrow Never Dies
    19. The World Is Not Enough
    20. Licence To Kill
    OKAY/AVERAGE
    21. You Only Live Twice
    22. Quantum Of Solace
    BELOW AVERAGE/BAD
    23. A View To A Kill
    24. Die Another Day


    Before anyone kills me, I should note that I love this entire series dearly and these are just ranked in order of how often I watch them, the only ones I dislike are DAD and AVTAK, the rest have faults, sure, but they never fail to entertain me.
  • BondJasonBond006BondJasonBond006 on fb and ajb
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    Now that I've seen Spectre and after rewatching tons of these to get myself in the mood, I guess it's the perfect time to do a rerank.

    GREAT
    1. The Living Daylights
    2. Goldeneye
    3. The Spy Who Loved Me
    4. Casino Royale
    5. On Her Majesty's Secret Service
    6. Thunderball
    7. Goldfinger
    8. From Russia With Love
    9. Skyfall
    GOOD
    10. Moonraker
    11. Spectre
    12. For Your Eyes Only
    13. Live And Let Die
    14. Octopussy
    15. Diamonds Are Forever
    16. Dr No
    17. The Man With The Golden Gun
    18. Tomorrow Never Dies
    19. The World Is Not Enough
    20. Licence To Kill
    OKAY/AVERAGE
    21. You Only Live Twice
    22. Quantum Of Solace
    BELOW AVERAGE/BAD
    23. A View To A Kill
    24. Die Another Day


    Before anyone kills me, I should note that I love this entire series dearly and these are just ranked in order of how often I watch them, the only ones I dislike are DAD and AVTAK, the rest have faults, sure, but they never fail to entertain me.

    Your ranking is bloody great!

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    1. The Living Daylights
    02. Casino Royale
    03. The Spy Who Loved Me
    04. Goldfinger
    05. From Russia with Love
    06. Goldeneye
    07. Skyfall
    08. On Her Majesties Secret Service
    09. The World is Not Enough
    10. Tomorrow Never Dies
    11. For Your Eyes Only
    12. Spectre
    13. License to Kill
    14. Moonraker
    15. Live and Let Die
    16. Octopussy
    17. Thunderball
    18. Die Another Day
    19. Dr No
    20. You Only Live Twice
    21. A View to a Kill
    22. The Man With the Golden Gun
    23. Quantum of Solace
    24. Diamonds are Forever
  • HASEROTHASEROT has returned like the tedious inevitability of an unloved season---
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  • edited November 2015 Posts: 389
    First time, after Spectre:
    1-CR
    2- FRWL
    3- SP
    4- TLDL
    5- OHMSS
    6- GF
    7- SF
    8- DN
    9- LTK
    10-QoS
    11- TSWLM
    12- FYEO
    13- TWINE
    14- GE
    15- AVTAK
    16- MR
    17- TMWTGG
    18- YOLT
    19- TND
    20- OP
    21- DAF
    22-DAD
    23- LALD
    24- TB
    (25- NSNA)
    (26- CR 1967)
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
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    First time, after Spectre:
    1-CR
    2- FRWL
    3- SP
    4- TLDL
    5- OHMSS
    6- GF
    7- SF
    8- DN
    9- LTK
    10-QoS
    11- TSWLM
    12- FYEO
    13- TWINE
    14- GE
    15- AVTAK
    16- MR
    17- TMWTGG
    18- YOLT
    19- TND
    20- OP
    21- DAF
    22-DAD
    23- LALD
    24- TB
    (25- NSNA)
    (26- CR 1967)

    Not bad. Top half is indeed the top half.
  • suavejmfsuavejmf Harrogate, North Yorkshire, England
    edited November 2015 Posts: 5,131
    TB that low is mental. It's a top 5 almost perfect Bond film.
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
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    Right, didn t notice that. TB belongs in the top half. So the fellow must be insane after all.
  • suavejmfsuavejmf Harrogate, North Yorkshire, England
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    Right, didn t notice that. TB belongs in the top half. So the fellow must be insane after all.

    I've put the asylum on alert.
  • royale65royale65 Caustic misanthrope reporting for duty.
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    My first rankings since seeing Spectre.

    24. Diamonds Are Forever (1971)
    23. The Man With The Golden Gun (1974)
    22. Die Another Day (2002)
    21. A View To A Kill (1985)
    20. Live and Let Die (1973)
    19. Moonraker (1979)
    18. You Only Live Twice (1967)
    17. GoldenEye (1995)
    16. For Your Eyes Only (1981)
    15. Tomorrow Never Dies (1997)
    14. Octopussy (1983)
    13. Quantum of Solace (2008)
    12. Goldfinger (1964)
    11. Skyfall (2012)
    10. Spectre (2015)
    9. The Spy Who Loved Me (1977)
    8. Thunderball (1965)
    7. The World Is Not Enough (1999)
    6. Dr. No (1962)
    5. The Living Daylights (1987)
    4. Licence to Kill (1989)
    3. Casino Royale (2006)
    2. On Her Majesty's Secret Service (1969)
    1. From Russia With Love (1963)

    I'm not happy with this list. A slight revision to my ratings; a few films have moved up and down my list, which is most unusual for me, as I'm a bit set in my ways.

    I prefer the grandiosity of You Only Live Twice and Moonraker, despite their plot holes and excessive gadgetry, than the drudgery of Sheriff bloody Pepper, hence why Live and Let Die is ranked so low.

    I would have liked Spectre to be ranked higher, but there's no way that it's getting past Spy. And Skyfall has slipped out of the top ten, but it's been replaced by Spectre, so it balances it out. (In my mind)

    You'd better make that two for the nut house. Goldfinger twelfth? Dear God. In my view everyone should have Goldfinger inside of the top ten. Least I recognize that I am insane. Or should that be “cuckoo”....?
  • MansfieldMansfield Where the hell have you been?
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    1. Skyfall ↑1
    2. Casino Royale ↓1
    3. Goldfinger ↑1
    4. From Russia with Love ↓1
    5. Dr. No ↑2
    6. Goldeneye
    7. Spectre ↓2
    8. For Your Eyes Only
    9. Tomorrow Never Dies ↑1
    10. The Living Daylights ↓1
    11. Oh Her Majesty's Secret Service
    12. Quantum of Solace
    13. The Spy Who Loved Me ↑3
    14. You Only Live Twice
    15. Thunderball
    16. Octopussy ↓3
    17. The World Is Not Enough
    18. Diamonds Are Forever
    19. Live and Let Die
    20. The Man With The Golden Gun
    21. Licence to Kill
    22. Moonraker ↑2
    23. A View to a Kill
    24. Die Another Day ↓2

    Shaken:
    ↓3: Octopussy
    ↓2: Spectre, Die Another Day

    Stirred:
    ↑3: The Spy Who Loved Me
    ↑2: Dr. No, Moonraker

    Comments:
    • There is a major shake up in my top five. Skyfall is so gripping for me and I find myself getting immersed into it more than any other Bond film. It has aged well, especially compared to Spectre. Having watched it more than once now, it has shown to be pretty inconsistent. In that regard, the strength of Skyfall shines through. Goldfinger leaped From Russia with Love after a long time. The last few times I watched both, they were equally compelling, but the iconic imagery and music from Goldfinger have pushed it ahead for the time being. Enter my newest edition to top five: Dr. No. It has been rising in my rankings for a long time and I am now confident it belongs there for the time being.
    • Goldeneye has been edging towards a slip in my rankings for some time. Places 6-12 are particularly volatile in my rankings. In some regards, I enjoy Tomorrow Never Dies more than Goldeneye, but Goldeneye is a consistently reliable experience. Spectre is placed after Goldeneye because it's an enjoyable film, but it doesn't excel at telling me what the tone of the picture should be. Oh Her Majesty's Secret Service outside of the top ten might seem ridiculous to some people on this site, but I have trouble buying into Lazenby in the classic Bond imagery. He is serviceable as Bond otherwise, particularly in scenes with Tracey.
    • There is also a significant change in my bottom five. I had to move Die Another Day all the way to the bottom. I've given it at least four attempts at a viewing and couldn't watch it to completion any time. That made me realize that Moonraker was unjustly placed in the last spot because the premise is actually quite good. Moonraker falls apart at the end, but it has its moments along the way.
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    I think I see your problem. Swap TWINE with GF, and your list improves greatly!
  • mcdonbbmcdonbb deep in the Heart of Texas
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    dinovelvet wrote: »
    What's the big deal. EVERY new Bond movie that comes out, some people always say its the best one ever made, some people say its the worst one ever made. Absolutely guaranteed.
    pachazo wrote: »
    @Birdleson, I hope you don't let one bad experience ruin your enthusiasm of the DC era. I was disappointed as well but still hold out hope that he can deliver the goods one last time.

    Yea I have to agree with that. Don't want you to loose your Bond enthusiasm.

    I put up with Dalton and Glen's cheap a$$ films ...so hang in there.
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    And some of us managed to survive longer the dreaded Brossa era and are now basking in the Craig era. So theres always hope!
  • Moonraker is Oscar worthy and a masterpiece compared to Bond movies of the 80's 90's and the new millennium! Without it I would not be into 007!!!
  • MansfieldMansfield Where the hell have you been?
    edited November 2015 Posts: 1,263
    Birdleson wrote: »
    But sometimes the light is a long way off. MOONRAKER shook me for decades. That was the first time that a Bond film disappointed me. I went to the next ten or so with zero expectations. It was the Craig era that got me back into it. Now, here we are again.
    It's hard for me to fathom how you view Spectre with such little esteem. I've read a bit of your posts and the points you make are valid. Last place in the rankings is like a court marshall and I'm just not convinced there is enough "evidence" to sentence it to last. Your other bottom dwellers, Die Another Day and Moonraker, have a distinct breach in placing Bond in any semblance of reality.

    One of Spectre's biggest problems is how it attempts to identify itself as a serious character drama and a more playful picture. It's fair to say that the conflict in narrative leads to its failure to fully succeed in either quality. However, it doesn't break the mold in either direction too far, resulting in an unconventionally balanced tone. The balance doesn't come from an enlightening moment in the film, but rather the things that are thrown in the film even each other out. At worst it really only belongs as a middling title. If it's last in your rankings because the sum of its parts equates to zero, I wonder how you are able to process some of the exceedingly ridiculous things in those other films.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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    Mendes is probably gone after SP. I'm thankful for it.

    DC probably has one in him at most (if that) and then it's on to someone new in the role. So all in all it won't be too long a wait this time if SP wasn't your cup of tea.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
    edited November 2015 Posts: 23,883
    I can understand where you're coming from @Birdleson.

    It is 'middling' for me. I give it a 10 rank out of 24 somewhat dispassionately. It could easily drop in time, and it perhaps has that rank for me mainly due to it being the most recent film.

    I am aware of its flaws and will only be able to really tell where it should sit for me once I do a DC back to back upon the blu ray release. I am looking forward to that actually to see what happens. I suspect QoS will move up.
  • MansfieldMansfield Where the hell have you been?
    edited November 2015 Posts: 1,263
    bondjames wrote: »
    I can understand where you're coming from @Birdleson.

    It is 'middling' for me. I give it a 10 rank out of 24 somewhat dispassionately. It could easily drop in time, and it perhaps has that rank for me mainly due to it being the most recent film.

    I am aware of its flaws and will only be able to really tell once I do a DC back to back upon the blu ray release.
    It's similar for me as well. Ranked 7 out of 24 probably sounds really wonderful, but I mostly focus on top and bottom fives. The other 14 titles are the middle in my estimation. Right now, I have it near the top of the middle because I can feel the luster it possesses. Granted, there is plenty of subject matter to scrutinize the film with that will probably cause it to drop slightly more over time. It's hard to see me placing it below Quantum of Solace, though. So unless my opinion of Quantum changes for the worse, it should at least stay in the upper half. It's not going to re-enter my top five again unless Bond 25 continues the story (preferably with a new director) and provides additional clarity to those events.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
    edited November 2015 Posts: 23,883
    @Mansfield, at the moment B25 following the story (with a new, action focused director who knows what he's doing) is probably the only way that SP can be completely redeemed for me. That scenario could cause this film to be more than 'middling', but nothing else probably can.

    It's a strange feeling actually. To enjoy it purely as an average, and somewhat forgettable Bond film but just not have any passion for it whatsoever. I haven't felt that way about a Bond movie for many years.
  • MansfieldMansfield Where the hell have you been?
    edited November 2015 Posts: 1,263
    @bondjames

    I share your sentiment on the lasting impression of Spectre. On a macro scale, I think the film has some brilliant moments that are supported by plausible Bond. It doesn't really let me down, if only in its potential, and it does provide me with an enjoyable experience. I'll probably relate it to Quantum of Solace in the future because it leaves me with a similar experience. Casino Royale and Skyfall are dedicated to their narrative, which leaves me with a consistently fulfilling experience. Quantum and Spectre suffer more from tonal shifts that likely originate from scenes being added and changed as bits to fill in a production checklist rather than showcasing a succinct product.

    With any good fortune for us fans, we will have a symmetrical bookended experience with Craig's Bond where the conclusion in Bond 25 will leave us as fulfilled as the introduction to his character in Casino Royale. In this regard, my opinion of Spectre wouldn't suddenly cause it to leap into the Casino or Skyfall category, but it would add polish with the knowledge that the groundwork established was fully realized.

    In response to your edit in the previous post where you suspect Quantum will move up: That may be because Quantum's deficiencies are amended by its closure of Casino Royale. In this respect, Spectre is disadvantaged because the closure is uncertain at this time.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
    edited November 2015 Posts: 23,883
    Mansfield wrote: »
    I'll probably relate it to Quantum of Solace in the future because it leaves me with a similar experience.
    Me too. I had the same feeling leaving the theatre both times, but for different reasons. Well said.
    Mansfield wrote: »
    With any good fortune for us fans, we will have a symmetrical bookended experience with Craig's Bond where the conclusion in Bond 25 will leave us as fulfilled as the introduction to his character in Casino Royale. In this regard, my opinion of Spectre wouldn't suddenly cause it to leap into the Casino or Skyfall category, but it would add polish with the knowledge that the groundwork established was fully realized.

    In response to your edit in the previous post where you suspect Quantum will move up: That may be because Quantum's deficiencies are amended by its closure of Casino Royale. In this respect, Spectre is disadvantaged because the closure is uncertain at this time.
    Regarding your comment on QoS, yes, that is true, to a degree. However, I also now have a new found appreciation for the way QoS tackled & introduced a large, nefarious, clandestine organization as well. I felt the Quantum nemesis was more realistically & creatively introduced in that film, vs. the somewhat familiar (to me anyway) rather than creative methods used in SP that recall the past.

    Yes, SP can never be taken into CR or SF territory for me either, but its place in the canon, and my respect for it, can certainly be improved if B25 properly closes the story off and ties up loose ends.
  • MansfieldMansfield Where the hell have you been?
    edited November 2015 Posts: 1,263
    bondjames wrote: »
    Regarding your comment on QoS, yes, that is true, to a degree. However, I also now have a new found appreciation for the way QoS tackled & introduced a large, nefarious, clandestine organization as well. I felt the Quantum nemesis was more realistically & creatively introduced in that film, vs. the somewhat familiar (to me anyway) rather than creative methods used in SP that recall the past.
    The opera scene will stay a cherished part of Bond canon for a long time to come. Thinking back to all of the SPECTRE scenes in the shadows of the Connery era where their influence in the plot is described, Quantum of Solace redefined how to thoughtfully introduce a villainous group and the plot while not alienating the title character.

    I'm still unclear of the relationship between Quantum and SPECTRE. Were all members of Quantum members of SPECTRE or was there only overlap in leadership positions and that afforded them to convene in more public spaces due to an inherent lack of need to stay secret? If it is the latter, I'm completely satisfied with the organizations introduction in Spectre. Interestingly enough, both of the drama established with both organizations introductions is fumbled later in the films as a result of misplaced plot focus in my opinion. In Quantum, we are left asking, "This surely isn't all Quantum does is it?" There were dozens of members identified at the opera who never fulfilled a meaningful role. Now, I wouldn't want Quantum to be like the Hobbit where they pretend like they can give you personal attachment to a dozen characters, but it would have been fitting to have an additional member profiled and involved in a larger role of the plot. Similarly with Spectre, though to a lesser degree since we have Hinx, I'm left asking how those sinister people carry out their objectives. In Casino Royale we had Kratt, Carlos, and Gettler to bring some of the smaller acts of treachery to the forefront of the plot. In Skyfall, we had Pattrice. I was left thinking from Spectre, "Who are these other members and what is their involvement." Almost hoping to see some kind of a Largo figure who isn't a focal point, but is noticeably involved in comparison to all of the anonymous members standing at the balcony. What's more is that it was teased that the female SPECTRE agent was at MI6 headquarters. Those are the sort of things I would have preferred to see be fleshed out in the third act instead of the London scenes at the end, save the conclusion with Blofeld.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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    I'm completely in agreement with you @Mansfield.

    I think due to the delay between QoS and B23 (due to MGM), and perhaps the former film's average reception, EON may have decided to shy away from all the characters that were introduced during Tosca. That was a mistake as far as I was concerned. They all seemed far more interesting than Greene, and I wish they had sort of left us on a more clear cliffhanger at the end of that film and then come back to address these folks in B23. Maybe that was in fact the initial plan, and perhaps the MGM delay refocused them on a more personal story.......well actually I know for a fact that it was Mendes who insisted on the personal angle and killing off Dench's M, and in retrospect I am grateful for that. Perhaps those QoS Tosca characters hit too close to home, geopolitically, for them to be palatable. EON has a tradition of not mirroring real world events too closely, but rather, staying in the fantastical realm. QoS almost felt 70's thriller realistic at points, which is why it grows on me.

    I agree on SP as well. I would have preferred one more character at least to have been fleshed out from that Spectre meet and to have been a more integral part of the plot. Interestingly, from seeing some of the leak discussion on here, I believe there was an initial intention to have a female lesbian Spectre character in this film as well. That could have been great, and it's a pity they didn't follow through (I have no idea what they had in mind for her, but I'm sure it would have been quite interesting and a throwback to FRWL, although perhaps again too familiar). It seems to me that things just didn't come together all that well this time around, but hopefully they learn from it and bring us something spectacular for B25. EON always watches reactions and adjusts.
  • chrisisallchrisisall Brosnan Defender Of The Realm
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    SPECTRE is imperfect, but the entertainment factor is so high that even CR is given a run for its money. This is of course only my opinion, but after my relative disappointment with SF I'm as happy as a kid set free to raid a candy store!
    Best line in SP: "I told you to bring back the car in one piece, not to bring back a piece of the car..." =))
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
    edited November 2015 Posts: 23,883
    chrisisall wrote: »
    Best line in SP: "I told you to bring back the car in one piece, not to bring back a piece of the car..." =))
    That was a good line. Funniest part for me was knucklehead Q being the only one laughing at his own joke...
  • chrisisallchrisisall Brosnan Defender Of The Realm
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    bondjames wrote: »
    chrisisall wrote: »
    Best line in SP: "I told you to bring back the car in one piece, not to bring back a piece of the car..." =))
    That was a good line. Funniest part for me was knucklehead Q being the only one laughing at his own joke...

    That got laughs in my theatre.
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    chrisisall wrote: »
    bondjames wrote: »
    chrisisall wrote: »
    Best line in SP: "I told you to bring back the car in one piece, not to bring back a piece of the car..." =))
    That was a good line. Funniest part for me was knucklehead Q being the only one laughing at his own joke...

    That got laughs in my theatre.

    I agree, but in my cinema i clearly was the only one -.-

  • chrisisallchrisisall Brosnan Defender Of The Realm
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    chrisisall wrote: »
    bondjames wrote: »
    chrisisall wrote: »
    Best line in SP: "I told you to bring back the car in one piece, not to bring back a piece of the car..." =))
    That was a good line. Funniest part for me was knucklehead Q being the only one laughing at his own joke...

    That got laughs in my theatre.

    I agree, but in my cinema i clearly was the only one -.-

    Damn mundanes. I was lucky to see it with at least SOME true fans present.
  • jake24jake24 Sitting at your desk, kissing your lover, eating supper with your familyModerator
    edited November 2015 Posts: 10,591
    Barely any laughs, and virtually zero claps at the end where I was, as busy as it was. Skyfall had the audience go nuts in the exact setting 3 years before. I couldn't wrap my head around it.
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