Last Bond Movie You Watched

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  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
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    bondjames wrote: »
    Goldeneye

    This has always been one of my favourites. Like OP which I watched yesterday, I can never tire of this film. Once again I had a great time with this one today.

    That famous opening scene with the jump off the Verzasca Dam in Switzerland (supposed to be a Soviet location in the film) remains fantastic to watch. I remember seeing that for the first time in the theatre like it was yesterday, and it's as great now as it was then. The scenes with 006/007 in the facility, along with the Goldeneye Overture playing in the background were also as good tonight as I remember them all those years ago. The lack of orchestra here make the sound fresh & modern, and yet there is a hint of the traditional Bond theme (but updated) throughout. Great work from Eric Serra here.

    In fact, I really like Serra's work throughout the film, including the much maligned Ferrari/Aston chase score, which has a playful quality to it, mirroring the scene itself, which is absolutely fantastic. I'd take this chase any day over that dull SP one, and I'm certain it didn't cost so much to film it either. Famke is a delight to watch in that Ferrari. Classy. She's also incredible throughout the film as Onatopp. One of the franchise's most memorable villains imho.

    The highlight of this film for me remains Izabella Scorupco however. Not only is she a total knockout even with the unglamorous outfits she wears in the film, but she commands every scene she's in. It's one of my top two or three Bond girl performances of all time. There's an almost 'old school' quality about Natalya Simonova. She's practical, intelligent & resourceful without being too 'look at me'. My kind of girl.

    Sean Bean is the other highlight as Alec Trevelyan. He caught my eye a few years earlier in Patriot Games, and when I heard he was cast as the villain, I couldn't have been happier. I like the fact that he's Bond's contemporary in age and skill. It makes for a more even matchup and their fight at the end is one of the series' best in my view.

    The supporting cast is electric. Gottfied John, Tcheky Karyo, Robbie Coltrane...all great.

    Brosnan does very well in his first outing. He's lacking in confidence and a bit unsure in some scenes, but I still like this Bond portrayal of his the best (even better than DAD). I think that's down to Campbell understanding the character. None of the unfortunate acting tics that I associate with Brosnan are visible here. He's kept firmly in check, and that's for the better. Even the pain face is brought in only at the appropriate time (when he's being squeezed by Xenia) and there is far less of the sappiness that I generally associate with his Bond, apart from the infamous beach scene which is thankfully contained.

    While watching the film, I realized that it's just so 'cool' in the way it moves along. Super cool in fact. It has an almost retro style to it while still being contemporary, and the pacing is also very good. GE remains one of my top Bond films and is firmly entrenched in my top 10.

    Woah! Great review! =D>

    I especially love that last paragraph because I had the exactly same feeling when watched it recently. Unlike most Bond films where we and Bond are joined at the hip, GE shifts around the characters really efficiently. Basically we're following whoever happens to be most important to the story at any given moment. It's like that scene where Bond rams the train. I think most films would show that from Bonds perspective, having to hold his nerve as the train approaches his tank, and then stepping slowly through the train carriages with his machine gun until he finds Alex unconscious. The way they do it in GE, its much more dynamic. Alex wakes up and sees his gun, attempts to grab it but Bond is already there. I think Bond is like the monster in a monster movie. The less you show him, the more effective he is. The real stars of the show should be the villains and the Bond girls IMO.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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    Yes, @Birdleson, GE was my first Bond film in the theatre, but I was a huge fan before that as well.

    It's funny, but on this last watch, for some reason all those things that made me love it the first time I saw it came back to me in streams. It actually seemed 'fresh' again. I think it's possibly because I've been watching the older 70's/80's movies recently prior to this, and GE is definitely 'modern feeling' in comparison, given it's a bit of a soft reboot. Serra's industrial sounding score also plays into that (I so much prefer his work to Arnold's pre-Craig Barry-lite efforts).
  • SzonanaSzonana Mexico
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    I just finished a few minutes ago Thunderball.

    Its a great Bond film it has the perfect balance of the previous Terrence Young films with the best stuff from Goldfinger.
    Sean Connery was great as always and Luciana Paluzzi made a great Femme Fatale, even Largo was a great villain. At the beginning he doesn't look very scary but once he kills one of his men you know what he is capable of.

    For me its a 10/10

    Definitely the 60s was one of the best Bond eras along with the 90s and 2000s.
  • SzonanaSzonana Mexico
    edited May 2016 Posts: 1,130
    Diamonds are forever

    Woow its been a long time since I've watched this, practically i Never watched it again since my very first Bondathon but I thought its time to give it a re watch.

    It's still the Bond flick i lkie the least from Sean Connery but i liked it a little more this time.
    It has some very good moments like the escape from the Police in the red Mustang and Bond's fight with Bamby and Thumper.

    Sean Connery wasn't that bad either, at least was much better than Moore at his worst( A view to kill) the biggest problem here is that he looked out of shape.

    There Were a few moments where he looked fat but still the charm was there and he still had his menacing moments like in the pre titles sequence looking for Blofeld and when he was asking Tiffany who she was working for.

    At the end id give this a 7/10

  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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    Glad you enjoyed it more this time @Szonana. DAF has grown on me with each rewatch. Such good fun.
  • SzonanaSzonana Mexico
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    bondjames wrote: »
    Glad you enjoyed it more this time @Szonana. DAF has grown on me with each rewatch. Such good fun.

    Yes it seems like its one of those.
    The first time left a bad after taste this time was much more fun and enjoyed very much the good stuff like the scene in the whyte house.

    I saw an extended version of that scene on my blueray special features and its so bad they cought that scene the expanded version is sexier and shows more the Sean Connery of the early films.

    I still prefer Terrence Young version but ithis one is not as bad as i first thought it was.


  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy My Secret Lair
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    Watched QOS last night on ITV2. :)
  • MayDayDiVicenzoMayDayDiVicenzo Here and there
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    Moonraker

    Barry, Adam, Moore, Lonsdale...it's hard for me to dislike this film, it's so darn fun. Not in the top half of Bond films, but still a blast.

    Ps- Corinne's death is one the most brilliantly shot scenes in the series.
  • royale65royale65 Caustic misanthrope reporting for duty.
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    Darn tootin'!
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
    edited May 2016 Posts: 23,883
    Skyfall

    I've been meaning to get to this one for a while. I have already watched it earlier this year, but had to see it again to resolve a dilemma in the lower half of my top 10 ranking, where I have quite a few favourites all bunched up, namely SF, OHMSS, GE & OP.

    This viewing went very well, as did the previous one a few months back. This is indeed quality film making as we all know, with excellent performances, magnificent cinematography (Deakins is a legend), superb dialogue and characterizations (Mendes living up to what we expected of him in this instance), and great performances.

    The highlights for me were the pretitles (just so tense - what a great way to start a film) and, surprisingly this time, the finale at Skyfall Manor. On first watch, I thought it was terrible, and Home Alone/MacGyver/A-team all came to mind at that time. However, since then it has improved every time I've watched it. I'm amazed at how Deakins made the night setting so beautiful and clear. The actual explosion of the building & helicopter crash into it is a work of art. The entire sequence is taut and engaging, and I now rank this as one of the better finales of the past few Bond films and certainly of the Craig era. I much prefer it to CR's Venice finale, and don't get me started on the SP debacle, which I can't even sit through without turning the blu ray machine off once London appears.

    Another surprise was Naomi Harris. I've never been a fan of her MP, but I did enjoy her scenes this time more than before. Again, certainly better than in SP. The same goes for all the other Scooby Gang members, who I also prefer here.

    Thumbs up to Thomas Newman as well. I expected more than his lazy rehash in SP, but I think he nailed the score with SF. I always have. He has a subtlety which was sorely missing from Arnold. To my ears it's a perfect score for the film, just like Serra's was for GE. They both fit like a glove.

    Craig is excellent. He is smoother than in QoS but still has that unmistakable trademark edge. Marlohe is a delight, Bardem is a classic villain & Dench gives a superb performance. Kudos to all.

    Now to my dilemma. I've made some adjustments. SF & OP drop only because OHMSS & GE went down so well this time. They're all closely bunched & I still have a blast with them all.

    Previously:
    OP - 6, GE - 7, SF - 8, OHMSS - 9

    Now
    OHMSS - 6, GE - 7, OP - 8, SF - 9
  • jake24jake24 Sitting at your desk, kissing your lover, eating supper with your familyModerator
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    Moonraker

    Barry, Adam, Moore, Lonsdale...it's hard for me to dislike this film, it's so darn fun. Not in the top half of Bond films, but still a blast.

    Ps- Corinne's death is one the most brilliantly shot scenes in the series.
    Agreed on all counts. Also worth mentioning is the centrifuge scene, one of the most tense and superbly shot moments in the franchise.
  • SzonanaSzonana Mexico
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    bondjames wrote: »
    Skyfall

    I've been meaning to get to this one for a while. I have already watched it earlier this year, but had to see it again to resolve a dilemma in the lower half of my top 10 ranking, where I have quite a few favourites all bunched up, namely SF, OHMSS, GE & OP.

    This viewing went very well, as did the previous one a few months back. This is indeed quality film making as we all know, with excellent performances, magnificent cinematography (Deakins is a legend), superb dialogue and characterizations (Mendes living up to what we expected of him in this instance), and great performances.

    The highlights for me were the pretitles (just so tense - what a great way to start a film) and, surprisingly this time, the finale at Skyfall Manor. On first watch, I thought it was terrible, and Home Alone/MacGyver/A-team all came to mind at that time. However, since then it has improved every time I've watched it. I'm amazed at how Deakins made the night setting so beautiful and clear. The actual explosion of the building & helicopter crash into it is a work of art. The entire sequence is taut and engaging, and I now rank this as one of the better finales of the past few Bond films and certainly of the Craig era. I much prefer it to CR's Venice finale, and don't get me started on the SP debacle, which I can't even sit through without turning the blu ray machine off once London appears.

    Another surprise was Naomi Harris. I've never been a fan of her MP, but I did enjoy her scenes this time more than before. Again, certainly better than in SP. The same goes for all the other Scooby Gang members, who I also prefer here.

    Thumbs up to Thomas Newman as well. I expected more than his lazy rehash in SP, but I think he nailed the score with SF. I always have. He has a subtlety which was sorely missing from Arnold. To my ears it's a perfect score for the film, just like Serra's was for GE. They both fit like a glove.

    Craig is excellent. He is smoother than in QoS but still has that unmistakable trademark edge. Marlohe is a delight, Bardem is a classic villain & Dench gives a superb performance. Kudos to all.

    Now to my dilemma. I've made some adjustments. SF & OP drop only because OHMSS & GE went down so well this time. They're all closely bunched & I still have a blast with them all.

    Previously:
    OP - 6, GE - 7, SF - 8, OHMSS - 9

    Now
    OHMSS - 6, GE - 7, OP - 8, SF - 9

    With your recent love to the films you disliked before i wonder if these re watches could make you like Pierce a bitt more as Bond.

    I respect you might not love him in the role but I find it a bitt odd, its just that you give me often the impression to favor Cinemmatic Bond over Flemingesque Bond that it's weird Pierce is not your cup of tea when it comes to the Bond portrayals.

    Please don't see this as im truing to convert you into Team Pierce but with your review of Goldeneye you must gave me the hope that you might see Pierce in a better light if you re watch his other 3 films.

  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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    Birdleson wrote: »
    Funny that SF places similarly for both of us, but I dislike many aspects that you enjoy. Aside from the scene on and below the ice, I detest everything that happens in Scotland.
    @Birdleson, just to clarify, I like many more things in SF that I didn't mention above. I was more focusing on things which have improved on recent rewatches, which include the finale, Harris & Newman's score. I'm finding that I enjoy that entire Scotland finale more and more these days, but I'll admit a lot of that comes down to Newman & Deakin's work here.
    Szonana wrote: »
    With your recent love to the films you disliked before i wonder if these re watches could make you like Pierce a bitt more as Bond.

    I respect you might not love him in the role but I find it a bitt odd, its just that you give me often the impression to favor Cinemmatic Bond over Flemingesque Bond that it's weird Pierce is not your cup of tea when it comes to the Bond portrayals.

    Please don't see this as im truing to convert you into Team Pierce but with your review of Goldeneye you must gave me the hope that you might see Pierce in a better light if you re watch his other 3 films.
    @Szonana, I've always liked Brosnan in GE. Although he was a little uncertain in the film, he plays it in a controlled fashion. One feels he is trying to be Bond there. The character traits of Bond are clearly visible, if played a little unsurely.

    He plays it similarly in the earlier parts of TND (up to the end of Hamburg) and I enjoy him there too. It's only after this (with Wai Lin) where I find he descends into playing Brosnan rather than Bond - there's something subservient almost about him in the later half of the film. I can't quite explain it.

    I know you like TWINE so I'll be careful here, but I don't see anything Bondian about his performance here. I really feel like I'm watching a soap opera (and a poor 'daytime' one at that) and all of that comes from him.

    I've always thought he was very good in DAD (although it really was the wrong film for him to step up his game). He is assured & in control in this film, and this is probably how he should have played Bond during his notably 'overblown action oriented era'. There's a lot of 'later' Moore in his DAD performance imho, and that's the tone he should have taken given the type of films they were giving him.

    I did enjoy his films more on my last rewatch of them. They are very entertaining certainly, but I feel what I want from my Bond is missing in many of them (apart from GE).
  • jake24jake24 Sitting at your desk, kissing your lover, eating supper with your familyModerator
    edited May 2016 Posts: 10,591
    @bondjames DAD is most certainly Pierce's best performance, no doubt. The problem is that the second half of the film gives him virtually zero chances to act, whereas the first hour (particularly the first 40 minutes) gives us some of the best acting we've seen of his. I've gone through a phase recently where I couldn't get enough of DAD. For what it is minus the dumb gene therapy subplot, the first half is superb. What comes after is an infestation of poor CGI, speed-ramping, and corny dialogue. I don't even mind Halle Berry as Jinx.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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    jake24 wrote: »
    @bondjames DAD is most certainly Pierce's best performance, no doubt. The problem is that the second half of the film gives him virtually zero chances to act, whereas the first hour (particularly the first 40 minutes) gives us some of the best acting we've seen of his. I've gone through a phase recently where I couldn't get enough of DAD. For what it is minus the dumb gene therapy subplot, the first half is superb. What comes after is an infestation of poor CGI, speed-ramping, and corny dialogue.
    I agree @jake24. I don't dislike DAD actually. I make fun of it, but it's all in good humour. I actually really enjoy the film for what it is.

    For Brosnan, it's always been between GE & DAD for me in terms of his best performance. I like his character in GE because I see more of Bond in him (either due to the writers or due to Campbell's direction - e.g. "kill her, she means nothing to me") but I like his confident DAD performance very much as well.
  • DaltonCraig007DaltonCraig007 They say, "Evil prevails when good men fail to act." What they ought to say is, "Evil prevails."
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    TSWLM

    The daddy of all Bond movies, as far as I'm concerned. All the millions they spent making this film is seen on the screen, and then some. Moore is just a big lump of charisma, and suaveness. Jaws and Stromberg are extremely charismatic villains, the soundtrack is fantastic, a big dose of exotic locals and breathtaking action scenes. The pace is off-the-charts, from the gunbarrel to the start of the climax aboard the Liparus, it feels like only 40 minutes has passed due to the brisk pace and endless successions of classic scenes and quotable one liners. And I am not exaggerating - I've seen 40 minutes episodes of random TV shows that felt longer than the entire 2 hours of this superb action/adventure film.
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
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    TSWLM

    The daddy of all Bond movies, as far as I'm concerned. All the millions they spent making this film is seen on the screen, and then some. Moore is just a big lump of charisma, and suaveness. Jaws and Stromberg are extremely charismatic villains, the soundtrack is fantastic, a big dose of exotic locals and breathtaking action scenes. The pace is off-the-charts, from the gunbarrel to the start of the climax aboard the Liparus, it feels like only 40 minutes has passed due to the brisk pace and endless successions of classic scenes and quotable one liners. And I am not exaggerating - I've seen 40 minutes episodes of random TV shows that felt longer than the entire 2 hours of this superb action/adventure film.
    Seconded! Funny, I was watching the same film yesterday afternoon. :D
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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    TSWLM

    The daddy of all Bond movies, as far as I'm concerned. All the millions they spent making this film is seen on the screen, and then some. Moore is just a big lump of charisma, and suaveness. Jaws and Stromberg are extremely charismatic villains, the soundtrack is fantastic, a big dose of exotic locals and breathtaking action scenes. The pace is off-the-charts, from the gunbarrel to the start of the climax aboard the Liparus, it feels like only 40 minutes has passed due to the brisk pace and endless successions of classic scenes and quotable one liners. And I am not exaggerating - I've seen 40 minutes episodes of random TV shows that felt longer than the entire 2 hours of this superb action/adventure film.
    Seconded! Funny, I was watching the same film yesterday afternoon. :D
    Thirded! Subjectively, this is my #1 Bond film, from a pure enjoyment perspective. Sheer bliss. I rate a few others higher because they are critically better films, but any time anyone wants to put TSWLM on, I'm game, no matter what day or time. Definitely a benchmark Bond film imho.
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
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    bondjames wrote: »
    TSWLM

    The daddy of all Bond movies, as far as I'm concerned. All the millions they spent making this film is seen on the screen, and then some. Moore is just a big lump of charisma, and suaveness. Jaws and Stromberg are extremely charismatic villains, the soundtrack is fantastic, a big dose of exotic locals and breathtaking action scenes. The pace is off-the-charts, from the gunbarrel to the start of the climax aboard the Liparus, it feels like only 40 minutes has passed due to the brisk pace and endless successions of classic scenes and quotable one liners. And I am not exaggerating - I've seen 40 minutes episodes of random TV shows that felt longer than the entire 2 hours of this superb action/adventure film.
    Seconded! Funny, I was watching the same film yesterday afternoon. :D
    Thirded! Subjectively, this is my #1 Bond film, from a pure enjoyment perspective. Sheer bliss. I rate a few others higher because they are critically better films, but any time anyone wants to put TSWLM on, I'm game, no matter what day or time. Definitely a benchmark Bond film imho.
    Well said, @bondjames. It's the perfect James Bond adventure without giving you single amount of boredom. From Minute One to the last, it never loses its charm.
  • SzonanaSzonana Mexico
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    @BondJames.

    I guess it was just a misunderstanding from my part thinking you didn't like Pierce in Goldeneye but its great you did like him there.
    Its a very good performance he just lacked a bitt of confidence but it's normal when it was his first time as Bond.

    With The world is not enough i did see many Bondian moments especially in the Billbao meeting, the love scene with Elektra and the i never miss scene. It Was a very well acted.

    With Tomorrow never dies the second half after he gets to wai Lin's place its all action so there wasn't much to do acting wise but still loved him there.


    And DAD it's silly fun just like Diamonds are forever, Moonraker and now Spectre but yes it's Pierce most confident performance.

    Anyway its great to know you did like him as Bond even if he is not one of your favorites but honestly having 6 Bond actors in the franchise, only 3 are our real favorites
  • DaltonCraig007DaltonCraig007 They say, "Evil prevails when good men fail to act." What they ought to say is, "Evil prevails."
    edited May 2016 Posts: 15,715
    GE and TND (again, after watching both on saturday afternoon already).

    GE is another big daddy in the franchise for me. Of course, it's the first Bond film I've ever watched, but there is something special about it. From the PTS, to the charismatic cast of characters, to the very brisk pace (hard to believe the tank chase ends at 1 hour and 20 minutes into the film, it feels like the movie barely started), and the unique soundtrack. Electric directing from Campbell, who paces his films brillantly (as he did for CR), the action scenes are breathtaking (shootout and tank chase, Bond vs Alec fight). Brosnan is on fine form here, great first performance as Bond. Natalya is in my top 3 Bond girls.

    As for TND, even if the quality is not as good as the other 2 outings I saw today (TSWLM and GE), the very fast pacing is again present. The movie doesn't let you breathe between the action scenes, especially from the Hamburg break-in to the final climax - hardly 5 minutes of quietness between each action set pieces. Arnold enters the franchise with a loud bang - Bond theme every 5 minutes, bombastic during the action scenes, and very lush in the quiet moments. Brosnan is a pure badass here, I fist the air several times in celebration of him during the film. This really is one of my most rewatched outings in the series. It's got everything I need - breathtaking action, a badass main actor and a fantastic soundtrack.
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    ok and we start the Lazenby era (unsure if anyone has been keeping up with my little blogs or not but I am finding myself enjoying this trip through time quite nicely and I recommend everyone do it once splitting up movies a weekend or two makes it quite exciting) and before people ask there are two lazenby performances I will be revieing this and diamonds aren't forever in 1989

    anyways like You only live twice and a few other films I am writing the review as I type this

    I have always said Connery could never be Bond in OHMSS as he was well to tough to fall in love and marry... and I still feel this way Lazenby is actually nice breath of fresh air after You Only Live twice. Draco is fantastic and much better then Tanaka Dianna Rigg is sexy

    honestly after you only live twice this film feels like a breath of fresh air and this is easily Barry's best score so far. sure the middle drags a bit ( not helped by lazenby being dubbed) but over all a great film

    Ranking so far
    From Russia with Love
    On Her Majesties secret Service ( I am putting it second though it is a tough battle.)
    Thunderball
    Dr. No
    Goldfinger
    You Only Live Twice
    Casino Royale 54
    Casino Royale 67



    Up next Diamonds are forever oh boy but like my appreciation For Goldfinger went up within recent viewings perhaps Diamonds Are forever will also be more appreciated.... or more then likely it wont lol
  • I like Moonraker, mostly because it just doesn't care how far it's going.
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
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    At least Moonraker is a standalone mission. What is the plot to SF?

    Bond has to recover the files...

    A lot of the Craig films are like that. The plot fizzles in the second act and by the end the stakes are purely personal. That's fine as a one off, but 4 films in a row? The Craig era is a lot like the Brosnan era: A superb start that flounders as they attempt to recapture the magic, whilst not fully understanding what made the original so beloved. EON have a history of having a success, then learning the wrong lessons as a result. Look at Moonraker. They made TSWLM (not a personal favourite but I see why it is loved) and they took away that people just want as much fantasy as possible in their Bond. They were successful with MR, but look how differently we view both those films now. Now compare GE with TND, TWINE, DAD. Campbell used the action in GE intelligently and crafted the thrilleresque story as the meat. There is very little action that seems redundant in GE. And GE is a big success, so EON take away the lesson that audiences just want as much brainless action as possible.
    With the Craig era they followed CR with QoS (a revenge mission) and SF (more Bond backstory, removing the mystique). What we need with B25 is for Bond to step back into the shadows and become an unfamaliar figure again. How much personal information do we know about Bond in FRWL or DN? That should be the model going forward.
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    Been a while since I've checked in, despite my chronological rewatch with my kids progressing forward. Just viewed Licence To Kill over the weekend and my 11 year old son actually liked it better than The Living Daylights! I was surprised by this as his favourite entries so far are Diamonds Are Forever and Moonraker. He said the action was far better than TLD. I was expecting the harder, grittier tone to not sit well, but both kids seemed to dig it. I actually found myself enjoying it more, too. This is the first time I've watched the blu ray in surround sound and this is probably the best I've ever seen it. This is the only Bond movie that's come out since my parents started taking me to see them that I DIDN'T see in theaters as my mom kept me away due to it having the first PG-13 rating in the series. It never had the luster of the others as I first caught parts of it on television with a bad picture. I always felt the fashions were some of the most dated and the music to be servicable, in part because Michael Kamen was so distinct I couldn't separate it from his Die Hard and Lethal Weapon scores, but with a 007 twist. I think this is actually the most I've enjoyed his music! It's certainly more Bondian than what we get next with Serra! Dalton really was the proto-Craig with this movie. I also noticed little details, like his stubble and scars on his body that I hadn't picked up on in lower definition. I wish Dalton could've done one more!
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
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    Didn t care much for Kamen s DH or LW scores, but thought he delivered an excellent Bond score for that film. Not Barry level good, but still.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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    I disliked the score when I first heard it, but given some of the tosh we've been given over the past 20 yrs, it's grown on me and I am now a fan too. Quite suspenseful.
  • royale65royale65 Caustic misanthrope reporting for duty.
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    I concluded my Bondathon with Skyfall the other week. I though that was me done with Bond for the foreseeable future. Well...

    Spectre

    I listened to Spectre's soundtrack, then inevitably I watched the film later that night, despite only having viewed the movie last month. I've decided to be less anal with my viewing habits of Bond and just go with the flow.

    Everything prior to the torture scene is bloody brilliant. I loved how much fun Craig is having in the role, with a good mix of action scenes too boot – the stylish Moore era chase throughout Rome, the almost Brosnan era plane chase and the brutal Hinx fight, showing us the depth and style of Craig's Bond.

    However I'm not too sure on Blofeld. When I first saw the picture, I was worried about Blofeld being behind Bond's parents “accident”, from the line “author of all your pain”. I confided that on the wonderful “Sir Henry's Original” thread, before the movie came out. When that didn't happen I was very relieved and put the whole foster brother nonsense to one side. It could have been so much worse!

    Also Newman's score in the final London act is just noise.

    Quantum of Solace

    A few days later I watched QoS again – I got the urge after reading the QoS appreciation thread.

    I read somewhere that Marc Forster wanted to take us inside the mind of 007 – in the first act in Italy, Bond is very frazzled – the jump cuts and hyper editing reflected Foster’s vision. Yet reading the Fleming novels, I always got the impression that Bond was a man of action - action soothed Bond.

    This divergent artistic viewpoint notwithstanding, QoS is magnificent, the bleak ambience of the film it makes it unique. Forster delivers a very slick film, where the drawbacks are the much maligned hyper-editing, and that's only prevalent in the first third-ish. I particularly like Forster's shot selection, in regards to the transitional scenes; think when Bond is entering Slate's hotel, and the scene in at the desert hotel, when Greene etc. are meeting. He uses quick, short shots, in order to get to the next action scene/dialogue exchange, very quickly. It reminds me of Fleming's writing; short, sharp sentences – both Fleming and Forster use speed. Other than that, this is a very effective thriller. The cast is especially good, the cinematography is uniformly excellent – bright colours and crisp palettes - and the production design is top notch as well.

    Casino Royale

    Well I couldn't leave CR out could I. So last night I popped it in. It stills thrills me to this day, after almost ten years after the fact. Superb.

    Being totally objective, I have to say either CR or OHMSS are the finest Bond films, to be viewed as pieces of cinema, works of art!, without the baggage of being “a Bond movie”. Only rivalled by FRWL and GF, IMHO.
  • GoldenGunGoldenGun Per ora e per il momento che verrà
    Posts: 7,114
    Octopussy

    What I LIKED:

    - the villains, Jourdan is charming and Berkoff is bonkers. Great fun.
    - the Cold War atmosphere in East Germany
    - the scene after the credits, easily my favourite of the film
    - Sotheby's is a contender too though
    - Maud Adams! :x
    - Alfa Romeo GTV, Italian cars :x

    What I DISLIKED:

    I have a problem with the silliness in this film, only MR tops it in that department, why did they include these moments for instance:
    - the crocodile sub
    - the Tarzan yell
    - the tennis jokes
    - the Germans in the VW
    - the clown makeup
    - the gorilla suit
    - "Sitttt!!", "Hiss off!", "This should shake 'em off", ... .

    I understand why OP can be entertaining, but I am not sure why so many fans love it so much. It came in 10th in a recent elimination game on these boards. Before Dr. No and GoldenEye! Still, to each his own of course.

    5/10: ok but nothing more.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
    edited May 2016 Posts: 23,883
    GoldenGun wrote: »
    Octopussy

    What I DISLIKED:

    I have a problem with the silliness in this film, only MR tops it in that department, why did they include these moments for instance:
    - the crocodile sub
    - the Tarzan yell
    - the tennis jokes
    - the Germans in the VW
    - the clown makeup
    - the gorilla suit
    - "Sitttt!!", "Hiss off!", "This should shake 'em off", ... .

    I understand why OP can be entertaining, but I am not sure why so many fans love it so much. It came in 10th in a recent elimination game on these boards. Before Dr. No and GoldenEye! Still, to each his own of course.5/10: ok but nothing more.
    Having recently watched the first two Indiana Jones installments which came out about the same time, I believe the overt humour was in direct response to those films. In particular, and as I mentioned on another thread, there is a lot of Indy in those silly OP moments. The Jones films were massive successes and I believe Bond was the target. So Glen and EON upped the ante with faster paced action and some silly humour to make the films more 'youthful'.

    Regarding why this film is liked so much by some: I like it for the charismatic villains, the amazing pace, the score, and a then 55 yr old Roger Moore hauling ass like he means business throughout the run time.
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