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  • edited March 2017 Posts: 11,189
    I love the tank chase. Anything but dull.

    Agreed on Serra's poor end song though. Never used to mind it but in recent years I've realised how completely un-suited it is to the end of a Bond film.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    @Mathis1, I absolutely love GE, but damn, if it isn't a race for me to eject the disc as soon as the credits roll every single time, just to spare my ear drums from hemorrhaging from listening to that closing song by Serra. It's bad, especially when I finish the movie and it's stuck in my head for the rest of the evening.
  • edited March 2017 Posts: 11,189
    The closing music and the opening to the song is fine...but then Serra opens his mouth. I'd have rather they played Tina Turner again (one of the best songs in the series to me).

    The song probably sounded better in the 90s as it does have that cheesy soap-opera sound to it that seemed to be a trait of that era in general, but damn its dated horribly.
  • edited March 2017 Posts: 11,189
    I will also admit that some of the dialogue in the film is quite naff:

    "nobody screws with Boris Greshinko" (too American-sounding)
    "what is it with you and moving vehicles"
    "finish the job James, blow them all to hell"
    "ready to save the world again?"

    I think there's more good in the film than bad though and it's always been an old favourite. Love the atmosphere during scenes like the Seveneya massacre/GoldenEye hijacking and the statue park meeting. Most of the performances are also very good.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    BAIN123 wrote: »
    The closing music and the opening to the song is fine...but then Serra opens his mouth. I'd have rather they played Tina Turner again (one of the best songs in the series to me).

    The song probably sounded better in the 90s as it does have that cheesy soap-opera sound to it that seemed to be a trait of that era in general, but damn its dated horribly.

    This is probably closer to how I feel: the entirety of the song isn't terrible, but when Serra opens his mouth is when I'm scrambling to find the remote.
  • DaltonCraig007DaltonCraig007 They say, "Evil prevails when good men fail to act." What they ought to say is, "Evil prevails."
    edited March 2017 Posts: 15,718
    Serra's singing in the end credits is IMO the worst moment in the entire franchise. His singing actually make my ears bleed, and there's nothing you can do to block out the singing (besides the mute button, which I never use in any film I watch, no matter how god-awful the sound I'm hearing is). At least with Madonna's song and 'Another Way to Die' you can sort of try to focus on the opening credits visuals instead of the music.
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
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    BAIN123 wrote: »
    The closing music and the opening to the song is fine...but then Serra opens his mouth. I'd have rather they played Tina Turner again (one of the best songs in the series to me).

    The song probably sounded better in the 90s as it does have that cheesy soap-opera sound to it that seemed to be a trait of that era in general, but damn its dated horribly.

    I can assure you it didn t.
  • Posts: 11,189
    BAIN123 wrote: »
    The closing music and the opening to the song is fine...but then Serra opens his mouth. I'd have rather they played Tina Turner again (one of the best songs in the series to me).

    The song probably sounded better in the 90s as it does have that cheesy soap-opera sound to it that seemed to be a trait of that era in general, but damn its dated horribly.

    I can assure you it didn t.

    Ha, ok. Maybe I've just grown up then.
  • Jazz007Jazz007 Minnesota
    edited March 2017 Posts: 257
    For Your Eyes Only

    Whereas other Roger Moore Bond films needed to grow on me before loving them - I took to FYEO right away and still love returning to it.

    The first Bond film of the 80s and the first directed by John Glen, FYEO has a contextual freshness; everything looks and moves in a slightly different direction, yet still has a classic Bond feel. Now, I'm no MR hater (in fact, I consider it one of the most underrated Bond films), but it is nice to see the Bond franchise return to more grounded stunts and Bond surviving on his wits more than gadgets than what had come before. So many great stunt pieces from the car chase (making Bond make due with a junker car), the skiing scenes, raking against the coral, the amazing climbing scene....

    There are a number of cheesy elements: the hockey team fight, the end with the fake Thatcher.... Still, there's also a bit more gravitas to the plot here too with Melina's parents' death, Bond's act of detente and the opening at Tracy's grave. Ripped a lot from the pages of Fleming and maybe has the most Cold War-heavy plot since FRWL at the time too yet there's still a lot of room for laughs throughout.

    Roger Moore is in top form - he sells every aspect of Bond and, even though he's known for being a comedic Bond, even (or, perhaps, especially) selling the more edgy scenes for Bond like the RVs on the beach ("Lisl come back!"), killing Locque ("You left this with Ferrara, I believe...") and storming the monastery ("Shut him up!"). There's no M but we get a few great scenes with Q - and Bouquet is probably the toughest Bond girl at that time. The villains aren't as strong as the series bests but they make good foil. The bonus is Bill Conti's score - which rocks if you ask me; the early 80s jam band sound dates the film a bit but I'd be lying if I said I didn't love listening to it.

    FYEO can't quite break into my Top 10 Bond films and will probably be perpetually stuck in the #11-13 range but I'm a big fan.

    Favorite Element: Roger Moore's performance of Bond.
    Favorite Scene: Bond vs Locque on the ledge.
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    Great Bond movie. I always save watching FYEO for Easter time, dont know why, bit like always saving OHMSS for Christmas!! I used to consider it Moores best, but now think OP overtakes it! That Bond vs Locque scene is great, it was unfortunate that Moore was uncomfortable doing the moment where he kicks the car over the edge, and John Glen had to persuade him the scene would be better for it!
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
    edited March 2017 Posts: 23,883
    FYEO is one of the fastest rising Bond films in my rankings. Blu ray has done wonders for it and it's easily Glen's most visually striking film. There's something quite classic about it, despite the disco score!
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    I like Contis score too! It suits the film, like Sheenas Eastons theme too, good title sequence from Binder too.
  • LeonardPineLeonardPine The Bar on the Beach
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    FYEO is my favourite Moore Bond.

    It cuts out a lot of the silliness and has many elements of Fleming.

    Just love the Keel Haul sequence and the ascent to St Cyrils.

    I also like the score!
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    The keel hauling sequence is terrific. It was in Flemings LALD novel ,but when they came to the film, they couldn't figure how to do it!! Glen and his team did a great job, exciting and suspenseful! Agree too that FYEO is a very stylish looking entry. Greece was a great location. Good car chase too! No gadgets, just Bonds expert driving!
  • edited March 2017 Posts: 11,189
    The score is a bit of a guilty pleasure for me.

    I like FYEO too but if I were to criticise the film it's that the over-use of soft lighting during some of the night scenes (the casino, Bond in the car with Lisl and Bond and Melina on the boat at the end) is distracting and gives the film a cheaper look.
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
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    Spain, Italy, Greece.

    FYEO is the Mediterranean Bond.
  • LeonardPineLeonardPine The Bar on the Beach
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    Love the locations in FYEO. I've always loved Greece and those St Cyrils shots are amazing.
  • Watched Quantum of Solace this weekend for Craig's birthday. I enjoyed it a bit more than I did last time, although it's one of those movies that alternates based on how good an experience you had with it last time. It works pretty well as an action movie, but as a Bond its biggest flaw is its cynicism and its periodic forays into realpolitik. Bond can be serious, and even dark, but it should always retain the clear sense of good and evil, right and wrong. A Bond where the CIA is in bed with dictators and the UK is willing to give the evil organization a pass to get their hands on some oil and avoid a fight is contrary to the very nature of Bond, no matter how realistic it might be.

    The other big problem with the movie is, of course, the shaky cam. Although it's only in two or three scenes (the PTS, the boat chase, and the plane chase), it makes those scenes nearly incomprehensible, and it ruins two very promising action scenes (I'm still not entirely sure what happens with the truck at the beginning or with the anchor). There are a couple of other minor problems with the movie, including the title, the person of Elvis, and the whole plane sequence, but it's not worth going in depth about them.

    Now that I've got that out of the way, onto the good parts! Craig is excellent in this, and while it's not quite on the level of CR and SF it's still a performance he can be proud of, and he blows SP out of the water. Mathieu Amalric is also good as the understated but clearly deranged Dominic Greene, and the emotional subplot/theme of the movie works well.

    One thing I had forgotten about this movie is just how funny it can be. Most of the laughs come from Craig's bluntness ("I'm sure they do." "We are teachers on sabbatical, and we have just won the lottery), which is yet another feather in his cap.

    Another thing worth noting is that Forster appears very concerned in this movie with how the happenings affect normal people. From the opening chase, where we see a young woman get shot by Mitchell and an old lady lose her groceries, to the scene in the opera house, to the many shots of impoverished Bolivians, they are always there to remind us of the toll the spy game takes. Whether this amounts to anything of substance is another question, but it's not something I see discussed often.

    Anyhow, QoS retains its status as a mid-tier Bond movie. It does a lot of things well, but nothing really stands out among the best in the series, and it has a few notable flaws.
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    I have to admit that the part with the anchor in the boat chase is not well shot. The truck in the car chase was pretty obvious for me the first time i saw it. The truck swerves away from the chaos, hits the wall, and dislodges its bumper in the process, this becomes a spike, the truck rebounds off the wall into the side of Bonds car, who's trying to overtake it, the bumper impales itself on Bonds car door, Bond puts the aston into a spin to escape, thus dislodging the door!
    Never disappoints, this car chase, cool, visceral with a killer ending!
  • BondAficionadoBondAficionado Former IMDBer
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    Mathis1 wrote: »
    I have to admit that the part with the anchor in the boat chase is not well shot. The truck in the car chase was pretty obvious for me the first time i saw it. The truck swerves away from the chaos, hits the wall, and dislodges its bumper in the process, this becomes a spike, the truck rebounds off the wall into the side of Bonds car, who's trying to overtake it, the bumper impales itself on Bonds car door, Bond puts the aston into a spin to escape, thus dislodging the door!
    Never disappoints, this car chase, cool, visceral with a killer ending!

    This scene gets better every time I rewatch QoS and I must admit, Arnold does a spot-on job of amplifying the tension and the chaos.. and who doesn't love Craig's look when he shoots the chasers at the end? One of his most badass moments imo.
  • GoldenGunGoldenGun Per ora e per il momento che verrà
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    Creasy47 wrote: »
    @Mathis1, I absolutely love GE, but damn, if it isn't a race for me to eject the disc as soon as the credits roll every single time, just to spare my ear drums from hemorrhaging from listening to that closing song by Serra. It's bad, especially when I finish the movie and it's stuck in my head for the rest of the evening.

    I think I'm the only one who really likes that song. I finish the film until the very last credit has rolled.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
    edited March 2017 Posts: 23,883
    Mathis1 wrote: »
    I have to admit that the part with the anchor in the boat chase is not well shot. The truck in the car chase was pretty obvious for me the first time i saw it. The truck swerves away from the chaos, hits the wall, and dislodges its bumper in the process, this becomes a spike, the truck rebounds off the wall into the side of Bonds car, who's trying to overtake it, the bumper impales itself on Bonds car door, Bond puts the aston into a spin to escape, thus dislodging the door!
    Never disappoints, this car chase, cool, visceral with a killer ending!

    This scene gets better every time I rewatch QoS and I must admit, Arnold does a spot-on job of amplifying the tension and the chaos.. and who doesn't love Craig's look when he shoots the chasers at the end? One of his most badass moments imo.
    The car chase is indeed a superb sequence from start to finish, and very well scored by Arnold.
  • GBFGBF
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    GoldenGun wrote: »
    Creasy47 wrote: »
    @Mathis1, I absolutely love GE, but damn, if it isn't a race for me to eject the disc as soon as the credits roll every single time, just to spare my ear drums from hemorrhaging from listening to that closing song by Serra. It's bad, especially when I finish the movie and it's stuck in my head for the rest of the evening.

    I think I'm the only one who really likes that song. I finish the film until the very last credit has rolled.

    I like it too!

    That makes three. I would not say that it is very Bondian but as a standalone song it is not as bad as people say. I even don't think that Serra's voice is so bad. I like the song much more than Serra's overall score.
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    bondjames wrote: »
    Mathis1 wrote: »
    I have to admit that the part with the anchor in the boat chase is not well shot. The truck in the car chase was pretty obvious for me the first time i saw it. The truck swerves away from the chaos, hits the wall, and dislodges its bumper in the process, this becomes a spike, the truck rebounds off the wall into the side of Bonds car, who's trying to overtake it, the bumper impales itself on Bonds car door, Bond puts the aston into a spin to escape, thus dislodging the door!
    Never disappoints, this car chase, cool, visceral with a killer ending!

    This scene gets better every time I rewatch QoS and I must admit, Arnold does a spot-on job of amplifying the tension and the chaos.. and who doesn't love Craig's look when he shoots the chasers at the end? One of his most badass moments imo.
    The car chase is indeed a superb sequence from start to finish, and very well scored by Arnold.

    I've thought for a while now that the quick editing makes that sequence feel like a big budget tv advert.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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    BAIN123 wrote: »
    bondjames wrote: »
    Mathis1 wrote: »
    I have to admit that the part with the anchor in the boat chase is not well shot. The truck in the car chase was pretty obvious for me the first time i saw it. The truck swerves away from the chaos, hits the wall, and dislodges its bumper in the process, this becomes a spike, the truck rebounds off the wall into the side of Bonds car, who's trying to overtake it, the bumper impales itself on Bonds car door, Bond puts the aston into a spin to escape, thus dislodging the door!
    Never disappoints, this car chase, cool, visceral with a killer ending!

    This scene gets better every time I rewatch QoS and I must admit, Arnold does a spot-on job of amplifying the tension and the chaos.. and who doesn't love Craig's look when he shoots the chasers at the end? One of his most badass moments imo.
    The car chase is indeed a superb sequence from start to finish, and very well scored by Arnold.

    I've thought for a while now that the quick editing makes that sequence feel like a big budget tv advert.
    Surely you're referring to the one in SP? The QoS car chase is quite visceral, frenetic, violent & kinetic. I haven't personally come across any tv ad quite like that.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    bondjames wrote: »
    BAIN123 wrote: »
    bondjames wrote: »
    Mathis1 wrote: »
    I have to admit that the part with the anchor in the boat chase is not well shot. The truck in the car chase was pretty obvious for me the first time i saw it. The truck swerves away from the chaos, hits the wall, and dislodges its bumper in the process, this becomes a spike, the truck rebounds off the wall into the side of Bonds car, who's trying to overtake it, the bumper impales itself on Bonds car door, Bond puts the aston into a spin to escape, thus dislodging the door!
    Never disappoints, this car chase, cool, visceral with a killer ending!

    This scene gets better every time I rewatch QoS and I must admit, Arnold does a spot-on job of amplifying the tension and the chaos.. and who doesn't love Craig's look when he shoots the chasers at the end? One of his most badass moments imo.
    The car chase is indeed a superb sequence from start to finish, and very well scored by Arnold.

    I've thought for a while now that the quick editing makes that sequence feel like a big budget tv advert.
    Surely you're referring to the one in SP? The QoS car chase is quite visceral, frenetic, violent & kinetic. I haven't personally come across any tv ad quite like that.

    This. Haven't sat down and watched TV/commercials in ages, but I don't recall ever seeing an ad quite like the opening of QoS. SP's car chase seems comparable to a TV advertisement, however.
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    bondjames wrote: »
    BAIN123 wrote: »
    bondjames wrote: »
    Mathis1 wrote: »
    I have to admit that the part with the anchor in the boat chase is not well shot. The truck in the car chase was pretty obvious for me the first time i saw it. The truck swerves away from the chaos, hits the wall, and dislodges its bumper in the process, this becomes a spike, the truck rebounds off the wall into the side of Bonds car, who's trying to overtake it, the bumper impales itself on Bonds car door, Bond puts the aston into a spin to escape, thus dislodging the door!
    Never disappoints, this car chase, cool, visceral with a killer ending!

    This scene gets better every time I rewatch QoS and I must admit, Arnold does a spot-on job of amplifying the tension and the chaos.. and who doesn't love Craig's look when he shoots the chasers at the end? One of his most badass moments imo.
    The car chase is indeed a superb sequence from start to finish, and very well scored by Arnold.

    I've thought for a while now that the quick editing makes that sequence feel like a big budget tv advert.
    Surely you're referring to the one in SP? The QoS car chase is quite visceral, frenetic, violent & kinetic. I haven't personally come across any tv ad quite like that.

    No, the SP one is more like a video game ;)

    I remember when I first saw this ad the editing reminded me of QoS. Also, let's not forget the opening of said car chase has close-ups of the Aston.


  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
    edited March 2017 Posts: 23,883
    BAIN123 wrote: »
    bondjames wrote: »
    BAIN123 wrote: »
    bondjames wrote: »
    Mathis1 wrote: »
    I have to admit that the part with the anchor in the boat chase is not well shot. The truck in the car chase was pretty obvious for me the first time i saw it. The truck swerves away from the chaos, hits the wall, and dislodges its bumper in the process, this becomes a spike, the truck rebounds off the wall into the side of Bonds car, who's trying to overtake it, the bumper impales itself on Bonds car door, Bond puts the aston into a spin to escape, thus dislodging the door!
    Never disappoints, this car chase, cool, visceral with a killer ending!

    This scene gets better every time I rewatch QoS and I must admit, Arnold does a spot-on job of amplifying the tension and the chaos.. and who doesn't love Craig's look when he shoots the chasers at the end? One of his most badass moments imo.
    The car chase is indeed a superb sequence from start to finish, and very well scored by Arnold.

    I've thought for a while now that the quick editing makes that sequence feel like a big budget tv advert.
    Surely you're referring to the one in SP? The QoS car chase is quite visceral, frenetic, violent & kinetic. I haven't personally come across any tv ad quite like that.

    No, the SP one is more like a video game ;)

    I remember when I first saw this ad the editing reminded me of QoS. Also, let's not forget the opening of said car chase has close-ups of the Aston.

    I can see what you mean. It's the Bourne style of tight cuts that probably gives that feeling. What prevents me from getting the tv vibe in QoS is the destruction that happens almost immediately to the Aston and the cars/trucks around it.

    PS: Brosnan's voice is quite manly in that clip.
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    Yes, I understand your point too. In an ad (particularly if it was for an Aston) the car would always look perfect. There's some good moments and shots in that QoS car chase. The smash of a random goons car head-on with the truck is good but it all feels over-cut to me and that takes away much of the excitement.
  • MajorDSmytheMajorDSmythe "I tolerate this century, but I don't enjoy it."Moderator
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    For my first Bond viewing of 2017, I felt like not going with an obvious film, and instead with with TMWTGG. As a complete package, this is one of my least favourite Bond films. But broken down into parts, there are things that I like, such as both the Scaramanga vs Rodney, and Bond vs Scaramanga duels, Scaramanga himself (my favourite Bond villain), and the soundtrack (one of my favourite Bond soundtracks)*.

    *As I type this post, I am listening to the 'Kung Fu' track.
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