Last Bond Movie You Watched

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  • Last_Rat_StandingLast_Rat_Standing Long Neck Ice Cold Beer Never Broke My Heart
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    I also had my Dad telling me that Lazenby wasn't a patch on Connery etc, So I had to get over that too :D I fully agree with the thought that given another film or two George would have become a very competent actor. We all know the story of the bad advice he was given at the time.

    Imagine your first film role is filling in for one of the most popular actor and role on the planet. Lazenby delivered in many areas and needed some seasoning. I needed him to reprise the role at least one more time for a follow-up.
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy My Secret Lair
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    It's like the revamped Dr Who series. after David Tennent decided to leave the BBC did consider cancelling the series as he was so popular they didn't think anyone could take over.
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy My Secret Lair
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    In honour of the late Sir Roger, on the fourth anniversary of his passing. I watched
    his favourite of his Bonds. The Spy Who Loved Me :) I still remember the excitement of first seeing this in the cinema as a kid.
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    In honour of the late Sir Roger, on the fourth anniversary of his passing. I watched
    his favourite of his Bonds. The Spy Who Loved Me :) I still remember the excitement of first seeing this in the cinema as a kid.

    Great choice! It's the Roger film I've seen the most times on the big screen.
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    The Man With the Golden Gun

    I never used to like this film very much but I actually think it's one of the better films of the Moore era. That said my biggest regret in the whole series is that we didn't get to see George Lazenby develop as Bond in what would have been a sequence of grittier films in the early 70s directed by Hunt. Lazenby squaring off against Christopher Lee in the far east setting in this film would have been something.
  • MajorDSmytheMajorDSmythe "I tolerate this century, but I don't enjoy it."Moderator
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    Diamonds Are Forever
    I don't doubt that getting Connery back was a big deal back in 1971. But watching now, 50 years after the fact, I question if it was worth it. There are 1.25M reasons why he is there, and not one of them are because he wants to. The film is so tacky, moreso when you look at the film that came before it. And the tone is frankly... bizarre. It's camp, then violent, then back to camp, and back to violent.

    Though to be fair, the soundtrack is alright. I especially like Gunbarrel & Manhunt, Bond To Holland and Bond Meets Bambi & Thumper (at least the first two minuites or so, roughly up to when the fight begins). And anyone driving a Triumph Stag can't that bad, even if Franks was an international smuggler.

    Silver Anniversary Bondathon (1996-2021)
    1. On Her Majesty's Secret Service
    2. From Russia With Love
    3. Dr No
    4. You Only Live Twice
    5. Goldfinger
    6. Thunderball
    7. Diamonds Are Forever
  • PrinceKamalKhanPrinceKamalKhan Monsoon Palace, Udaipur
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    @GeorgeLazenby Welcome back, GL! It's good to see you post again.

    The Man With the Golden Gun

    I never used to like this film very much but I actually think it's one of the better films of the Moore era.

    Plus another terrific score from mastercomposer John Barry.
    That said my biggest regret in the whole series is that we didn't get to see George Lazenby develop as Bond in what would have been a sequence of grittier films in the early 70s directed by Hunt. Lazenby squaring off against Christopher Lee in the far east setting in this film would have been something.

    Hong Kong of the mid-1970s would've made a good fit for Lazenby's Bond.

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  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
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    @GeorgeLazenby Welcome back, GL! It's good to see you post again.

    The Man With the Golden Gun

    I never used to like this film very much but I actually think it's one of the better films of the Moore era.

    Plus another terrific score from mastercomposer John Barry.
    That said my biggest regret in the whole series is that we didn't get to see George Lazenby develop as Bond in what would have been a sequence of grittier films in the early 70s directed by Hunt. Lazenby squaring off against Christopher Lee in the far east setting in this film would have been something.

    Hong Kong of the mid-1970s would've made a good fit for Lazenby's Bond.

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    Too Cool...

  • edited May 2021 Posts: 295
    @PrinceKamalKhan what a pleasure to see you old friend. That poster looks epic. A series of Lazenby/Hunt/Barry/Maibaum Bonds in the early 70s would have been truly something. Given that Lazenby was a student of Bruce Lee it's feasible the producers would have capitalized on that early and given us a Bond in 73 in a Far East setting with Bruce Lee in the mix somewhere before he died. Great to see you're still around :)
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy My Secret Lair
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    Thunderball, Last night, still an epic adventure.
  • edited May 2021 Posts: 1,469
    Finished Moonraker. I know it has detractors here, but I enjoy it. One thing I admire about it is its scale, the largeness of the adventure, with the finale in space. No doubt some things about it are implausible, but I just go with it. Bernard Lee's screen time is limited, but his speech to Bond outside Drax' former research facility is note-perfect. M's shock at seeing Bond and Holly weightless and Q's reentry line cracked me up. Then there's the disco reprise of the Moonraker theme song, of its time, like the whole film. I'm sure no Bond film will be made again with that degree of levity or humor, so I appreciate it for what it is. And I can't remember enjoying the main title song as much as I did this time. Actually pretty good lyrics by Hal David.

    After the film, I started to listen to Roger's audio commentary of it, his reminiscences of the filming. I usually don't listen to those. He talked about how they were thinking of having Frank Sinatra do the theme song (apparently Cubby asked Frank but he pulled out of the project), and I can imagine he would've sung it well, but a woman's voice was probably preferable for that song.
  • Last_Rat_StandingLast_Rat_Standing Long Neck Ice Cold Beer Never Broke My Heart
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    Thrasos wrote: »
    Finished Moonraker. I know it has detractors here, but I enjoy it. One thing I admire about it is its scale, the largeness of the adventure, with the finale in space. No doubt some things about it are implausible, but I just go with it. Bernard Lee's screen time is limited, but his speech to Bond outside Drax' former research facility is note-perfect. M's shock at seeing Bond and Holly weightless and Q's reentry line cracked me up. Then there's the disco reprise of the Moonraker theme song, of its time, like the whole film. I'm sure no Bond film will be made again with that degree of levity or humor, so I appreciate it for what it is. And I can't remember enjoying the main title song as much as I did this time. Actually pretty good lyrics by Hal David.

    After the film, I started to listen to Roger's audio commentary of it, his reminiscences of the filming. I usually don't listen to those. He talked about how they were thinking of having Frank Sinatra do the theme song (apparently Cubby asked Frank but he pulled out of the project), and I can imagine he would've sung it well, but a woman's voice was probably preferable for that song.

    I love me some Moonraker.
  • MajorDSmytheMajorDSmythe "I tolerate this century, but I don't enjoy it."Moderator
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    The Spy Who Loved Me
    A few days ago. No complaints, an enjoyable entry in the official Bond cannon.

    Silver Anniversary Bondathon (1996-2021)
    1. On Her Majesty's Secret Service
    2. From Russia With Love
    3. The Spy Who Loved Me
    4. Dr No
    5. Live And Let Die
    6. You Only Live Twice
    7. The Man With The Golden Gun
    8. Goldfinger
    9. Thunderball
    10. Diamonds Are Forever
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    DAF

    Gay jokes. Rectal smuggling joke. Pubic hair joke. African woman-as-gorilla, Blofeld in drag. Somebody recognizing James Bond as a celebrity. Completely anti-climatic final showdown. "Blow up your pants." THREE different scenes or discussions of somebody going to/coming out of the bathroom. Bond's old-man gut. A moon buggy chase.

    But damn if it isn't still a bunch of fun for most of it's runtime. Somehow and against all odds.
  • RichardTheBruceRichardTheBruce I'm motivated by my Duty.
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    James Bond on a toilet running his fingers through toilet tissue. That must have been some brainstorming session.
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    In the process of watching OHMSS (had to pause it right after Bond's cover is found out by Blofeld). Will be finishing it this afternoon/evening after work and will write thoughts here. First watching in quite awhile.
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    On Her Majesty's Secret Service 1969

    Lazenby is undeniably bad in this. I maintain that anybody who says otherwise has coerced themselves into a state of willful ignorance because the rest of the film around him is so good. On a formal and scriptural and technical level, this is clearly one of the better Bond films in the entire series. Hunt's direction is refreshing and his shot compositions are extremely compelling (those shots before we are properly introduced to the new Bond are stunning). John Barry's score is, if perhaps a little narrow, iconic and for good reason and the theme for Bond and Tracy is an all-timer. There's so much testosterone in Barry's choices of instrument as well for this score.

    Diana Rigg as Tracy di Vincenzo is easily one of the best Bond girls the series has ever, or will ever, see. The mark she leaves is indelible, and she carries the chemistry between the two by herself.

    I cannot get over Lazenby in this, and I have resigned myself to accepting that I never will. He brings down the film. The film is infinitely better whenever Rigg is around and markedly worse whenever Lazenby is the full-focus. I know it isn't his fault that he was dubbed for something like a third of it (when he's undercover as Hillary Bray), but that certainly doesn't help matters either. He is far too chipper to be James Bond, far too much of a golly-gee boy scout, or even worse he is completely flat and wooden more often than not. Some of his line readings, particularly in his initial scene with Draco, are unforgivably bad. Throughout, though, I never once see James Bond. With every other actor, during their better moments or in general, I see James Bond on screen. With Lazenby, I never do. This is not James Bond. I see people defending his performance as vulnerable or Flemingesque and I feel as though I am going insane. All I see is an aw-shucks hyuck hyuck actor reading off lines with lifeless eyes and a complete lack of understanding of who the character is or should be.

    I can overlook this stuff and enjoy the film around them. The last hour, in particular, is alongside the first half of Goldfinger and the middle section of Casino Royale probably just the best extended "chunk" of any Bond film ever. The action sequences hold up incredibly well (Lazenby handles himself wonderfully in the fisticuffs moments). The ski chases, Barry's score, the breathtaking cinematography, the assault on Piz Gloria, the tenderest moment in the series when Bond tosses his hat to Moneypenny presumably for the last time, the scene in the barn and the overall strength and complexity of Tracy. The list goes on. This is undeniably a classic, but it will never climb too high on my list because Lazenby brings down everything around him as the rest of the film strains to elevate him and his lackluster performance.

    I come off harsh on Lazenby because it bums me out. This would be probably my #1 or at least top 3 Bond film if he weren't so bad. Hunt's direction is stunningly good and has a lot of personality in the way that so few of the films in the series do. It adapts Fleming remarkably well, too.

    I won't call it a missed opportunity, because it isn't -- it's a fantastic Bond film -- but it could've been more. A lot more.
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
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    I actually think he was quite good and wonder how he would have grown in the role. I wouldn’t trade the Moore era, but the thought of an alternative timeline with a tougher, more physical Bond is intriguing.
  • Last_Rat_StandingLast_Rat_Standing Long Neck Ice Cold Beer Never Broke My Heart
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    I give Lazenby the benefit of the doubt due to having zero acting experience besides a few commercials and then taking over basically the largest and most popular franchise at the time. It would have been the best if we had gotten a fully engaged/slightly aging Connery in the role.
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    I'm definitely not leveling a personal attack on the guy. Not remotely. I recognize that he had no experience. That's the fault of the producers. But you can take all of that into account and still assess the performance, and it's still bad.

    He misunderstands 007, and when he isn't doing that he's giving line painful line readings. People give Moore flack for his deviations from Fleming, but I think people don't give Moore enough credit. His levity comes across as a man deflecting or masking, a deep cynicism beneath. His charm and charisma are also off the charts, and that helps. He made the role his own, Fleming or not.

    Lazenby comes off as a schoolboy who is all-too-chipper to be convincing as 007. Again, not a personal attack, just an analysis of the performance. Aside from the action scenes, in which he is fantastic, he is never convincing as Bond to me.
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    I give Lazenby the benefit of the doubt due to having zero acting experience besides a few commercials and then taking over basically the largest and most popular franchise at the time. It would have been the best if we had gotten a fully engaged/slightly aging Connery in the role.

    I agree. I always thought had Eon followed TB up with something low key, like a faithful adaptation of MR instead of YOLT, then Connery might have been more enthused about OHMSS.
    He would have been great, especially since the novel depicts Bond as being bored with Operation Bedlam. Seeing Connery go up against Savalas' Blofeld would have been epic!
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    Yeah, I've always said that if I had a time machine and I could go back and convince Connery to give an (engaged) performance in OHMSS... it'd be amazing.
  • Last_Rat_StandingLast_Rat_Standing Long Neck Ice Cold Beer Never Broke My Heart
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    Yeah, I've always said that if I had a time machine and I could go back and convince Connery to give an (engaged) performance in OHMSS... it'd be amazing.

    The biggest mistake was not following up TB with OHMSS. I do remember reading that it was supposed to, but something with weather and lack of available snowy locations forced them to scrap it and go with YOLT, which is enjoyable to an extent. I completely understand the concept of bringing the best to the screen for entertainment purposes, but they totally hack some of the Fleming novels and became too large for their own good.
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    Yeah. There was that wonderful thread where we could put our "ideal" Bond film timelines. I had them in the right order for a proper Blofeld trilogy.
  • Last_Rat_StandingLast_Rat_Standing Long Neck Ice Cold Beer Never Broke My Heart
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    I'm fine with any of the other films in their respective order, but the Blofeld trilogy needed to be in order. Goldfinger started the trend of an entertaining blockbuster Bond film and only got bigger through his rub, then scaled back, then got weird in the early 70s.

    I'm not bashing any of the films or what they did. I love them all. It's just that Fleming had so much great material that got thrown aside for spectacle.
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    Yeah @Last_Rat_Standing I love them all too, and I also wish we'd gotten a proper Blofeld trilogy, as @Birdleson and I have talked about on that other thread I forget where it's at. Would've been truly something. Alas, the film industry's history is full of would've / could've / should've. Who knows, maybe we don't get the series lasting as long if that happens, butterfly effect and all that lol.

    Definitely one of the biggest "what could've been" moments - a true Blofeld trilogy.
  • Last_Rat_StandingLast_Rat_Standing Long Neck Ice Cold Beer Never Broke My Heart
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    Yeah @Last_Rat_Standing I love them all too, and I also wish we'd gotten a proper Blofeld trilogy, as @Birdleson and I have talked about on that other thread I forget where it's at. Would've been truly something. Alas, the film industry's history is full of would've / could've / should've. Who knows, maybe we don't get the series lasting as long if that happens, butterfly effect and all that lol.

    Definitely one of the biggest "what could've been" moments - a true Blofeld trilogy.

    I totally get what they were going for. As much as I love the Moonraker novel (I'm currently rereading it now) it wouldn't translate well enough to the big screen to an audience/escapism expectation. This and only keeping the Japan atmosphere and a somewhat proper relationship with Bond and Tanaka are what was translated to YOLT on the screen. At least they kept the diamond smuggling aspect from the DAF to the film.
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    If I could have an alternate timeline with more faithful Fleming adaptations, I would jump on the opportunity.

    That said, I'm also a big fan of the more cinematic Bond films, the ones that really pushed the medium to go as big as it could. So for me, I'm glad there's a balance.

    But yeah I'm pretty much right there in agreement with you.
  • chrisisallchrisisall Brosnan Defender Of The Realm
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    I'm fine with any of the other films in their respective order, but the Blofeld trilogy needed to be in order. Goldfinger started the trend of an entertaining blockbuster Bond film and only got bigger through his rub, then scaled back, then got weird in the early 70s.

    I'm not bashing any of the films or what they did. I love them all. It's just that Fleming had so much great material that got thrown aside for spectacle.

    I agree. And if by 'weird' you mean peppered with dopey-ness, then yeah. I mean, imagine in Skyfall if they'd added a slidewhistle as Bond fell through the ice... why was that acceptable back then? I grew up with that crap and I had to kind of ignore it to enjoy those films...
  • Last_Rat_StandingLast_Rat_Standing Long Neck Ice Cold Beer Never Broke My Heart
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    chrisisall wrote: »
    I'm fine with any of the other films in their respective order, but the Blofeld trilogy needed to be in order. Goldfinger started the trend of an entertaining blockbuster Bond film and only got bigger through his rub, then scaled back, then got weird in the early 70s.

    I'm not bashing any of the films or what they did. I love them all. It's just that Fleming had so much great material that got thrown aside for spectacle.

    I agree. And if by 'weird' you mean peppered with dopey-ness, then yeah. I mean, imagine in Skyfall if they'd added a slidewhistle as Bond fell through the ice... why was that acceptable back then? I grew up with that crap and I had to kind of ignore it to enjoy those films...

    Just the overall campiness that was never seen in the early Connery films and OHMSS. Compare FRWL to DAF-TMWTGG. Complete opposite ends of the spectrum. A gritty spy thriller to moon buggy chases, gay villains, JW Pepper, slide whistles and Kung fu fighting teenage girls. This was chosen over adapting things such as the Spangled Mob, Garden of Death, even Bond going undercover in Scaramanga's syndicate in which even the least memorable elements from Fleming was discarded for the aforementioned above.
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