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I thought he dumped that car in the Bahamas?
On top of that what do we hear when we first see it? Arnold’s music from CR. Intentional or not it connects the car to that film.
Bond was in the middle of a mission, when would he have had time to arrange for its transport to the UK? And you say it yourself, it simply isn’t the same car. If anyone is making assumptions, it’s you.
It’s the car from Goldfinger. It was a nod to a classic Bond film for the fans, and nothing more. Skyfall is filled with nods to classic Bond films because it was the 50th anniversary of Bond, which is why you don’t hear anything about Quantum or Vesper.
The car from CR, he parked it at Nassau airport and carried on with his life, as we all did. Part of Bond is that everything is disposable to him.
I think the theory is that he had Q re-equip the CR DB5 as a right hand drive.
That’s the main problem with the Craig era, and a lot of the Bond films: they just seem one foot in and one foot out on continuity between films.
Sure, but it wouldn’t have felt as special if it was just a plain DB5 with none of the doodads. It’s not worth nitpicking IMO.
Interesting, thanks. I'm pleasantly surprised to see CR on top actually, I'd have thought it would be Goldfinger. It shows Bond fans are a bit more open to the newer stuff than these boards give one the impression of! :)
There's quite a lot I'd disagree with: for example I'd dump Quantum way down the bottom, but I'm actually happy to see it further up for what it says about the fans! I'd be surprised if Spectre would stay there if they ran it again though.
:)
I always thought that it was fine that it was the same car. Bear in mind that Bond won it on a mission in the Bahamas, presumably gambling with Government funds, so the car he wins is technically the property of the British Government; hence Q branch being responsible for it.
As Bond is a bit of a car nut he has a mate in Q branch who he convinces to install some gadgets from an old 60s spy car they have laying about the place and to swap the driving position. It's 'his' car on a long loan (and maybe to show gratitude for how he did on the Casino Royale mission), but technically it belongs to MI6.
MI6 sold all of his stuff when they thought he was dead, don't forget- but the car wasn't part of that...
I think the funny bit is that they know that Silva has hacked their computers and comms, and so Bond tells MI6 that he's taking M to safety... over the radio
:)
I guess you could see that as part of his luring Silva away though.
I see complaints over Dench reciting a poem thus putting herself and others in danger, but I think that’s the point. She showed poor judgement, and that’s why she stipulated that nobody else would get involved at Skyfall, because “too many people got killed” and then later she would admit “I f***ed this up”. She decided to handle this in her own terms, which meant putting her life on the line. This is her owning up to all the bad decisions she made, and it’s approaching her personified by Silva.
This leads to another thing I don't love about this film, the expanded role of M, one whose decisions have consequences for multiple people and others, namely Bond, left to clean up the mess. I've said the credits should read Judi Dench is M in Skyfall. With Daniel Craig as Ian Fleming's James Bond.
The filmmakers had a great actress to work with and she left her mark over 7/8 films, but they seemed to go out of their way to make her stern and against Bond far too often and created a more complicated professional relationship than it should've been and that's always been a negative for me. Not that Fiennes has had a chance to make an impression after just one film either.
Isn't that basically M's role in every single Bond movie?
(Yes, apart from FYEO before anyone says it! :) )
I have posted as lot of counter-arguments to the "plot hole" claims. I'm exhausted. I can't do it anymore. LOL
What's noteworthy is that 4 of the top 5 are solid adaptations of Fleming. SF is the only one in that top 5 that is an origianl screenplay.
Oh yes, good spot, that is food for thought. Mind you, I'd have put TSWLM way closer to the top! :)
Yes, yes, yes!!!👏👏👏
Agreed again.
Intuitive improvisation which had been "years in the planning"... ;)
I love Skyfall, but I would never claim Silva's plan makes perfect sense. It is at best OTT.
1. Silva didn't care if Q would plug his laptop at that moment, he just assumed whenever he does it, he will try to escape.
2. He probably didn't knew M was at the enquiry, the one who handed him the package in metro could have left the message. If M was somewhere else he would just go there to Kill her. Remember he has people waiting for him dressed as policeman outside with car.
3. I agree about the guard's though, that sounds too good to be true.
Seriously... I've voiced it before, but I find Skyfall truly overrated. The Dark Knight did it better... ;)
Mr. Walken! Be careful, you'll shoot your own head off!!
Ah that's a good thought! That'd make it a bit easier to swallow :)
This is how I feel about it as well. But it wouldn’t be wrong still to classify Silva’s plot as a little “over the top” anyways, that’s what makes a good villain in a Bond film!